XO-1.5 HS version announced
As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
Hi, Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a prototype? Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
tiago wrote: Hi, Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a prototype? that's the final arrangement. paul Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel part 2 text/plain 129 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
The smaller ñ key is a pity. Maybe the ctrl key in the left could have been shorter? The ñ is frequently used in spanish. Definately more than w or k for example. I guess field testing will prove if the smaller key next to the enter key ends up being a problem or not. The arrow layout is awkard, but I guess that was a necessary compromise. Ismael 2010/6/15 Paul Fox p...@laptop.org tiago wrote: Hi, Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a prototype? that's the final arrangement. paul Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel part 2 text/plain 129 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Ismael Schinca Plan Ceibal - Depto. Técnico - I+D Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 601 57 73 Int. 2227 E-mail : ischi...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F13 glibc with nopl instructions - an explanation
On 8 June 2010 17:33, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: What are the next steps? Do we take this back to FESCO? When is the next meeting? We're on the agenda for today's meeting which starts in about 1 hour. #fedora-meeting on freenode. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
Do you have any photos of the new design or keyboard? SJ On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
GNOME and protecting Sugar --
Hi Bernie, in Paraguay, how did you manage the situation with GNOME and protecting Sugar from obvious damage. Back then, the first apparent issue was that ~/Activities appeared right in the middle of the gnome file manager, and was way too tempting to mess with it (and messing with it would kill Sugar). - How did you solve the problem? There was mention on the list of a .hidden file with hints to the file manager, did you use that? Something else? - Were there any other problems? Solutions? a large deployment is wondering about adding GNOME to the mix (including Orca is one of the reasons...), and how to manage the risk... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME and protecting Sugar --
El Tue, 15-06-2010 a las 18:27 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: in Paraguay, how did you manage the situation with GNOME and protecting Sugar from obvious damage. Back then, the first apparent issue was that ~/Activities appeared right in the middle of the gnome file manager, and was way too tempting to mess with it (and messing with it would kill Sugar). - How did you solve the problem? There was mention on the list of a .hidden file with hints to the file manager, did you use that? Something else? During the last development cycle we lacked the time to lock-down GNOME a little more and we're still paying the consequences :-( - Were there any other problems? Solutions? Indeed, some kids manage to do damage Sugar, with or without intention. More frequently, they mess up the panel icons in ways that make it difficult to restore functionality. In one case, a kid managed to click Disable Networking in nm-applet and then switch back to Sugar. Not Disable Wireless, that would have been easy! It took me one hour of debugging to figure that out. Everyone, including teachers and teacher trainers, manages to fill up the filesystem with large multimedia files downloaded from the Internet, solowing down the system due to frequent jffs2 garbage collections. In some cases, it's not the user's fault: various programs, including Firefox and Browse, can hide up to 50MB of junk in dot-files. Clever users managed to discover some of these locations and passed the word. If a kid breaks the system in any non obvious way, the technicians will just reflash it. Now we have a rudimentary UI to restore the journal backup, but all work done in GNOME is lost. a large deployment is wondering about adding GNOME to the mix (including Orca is one of the reasons...), and how to manage the risk... On the positive side, many children and teachers simply love GNOME. It would no longer be possible for us to convince them to upgrade to a version which removes it. Perhaps unsurprisingly, a teacher told me that her younger son likes Sugar, while the older uses GNOME. To mitigate the problem: - lock down the panel: http://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/ - add a panic button to olpc-configure which would bring up a text menu with various recovery functions, such as resetting GNOME configuration to its default and clearing temporary caches. - remove the desktop switcher icon from the Sugar control panel give the field technicians a secret shell command to restore it. This should prevent children who are too young to figure it out. - Hide the Activities. We can't really make them read-only or immutable because the updater runs as user olpc. - Also hide .sugar A 100% robust GNOME desktop would require a complete redesign. The end result might end up being very similar to Sugar! The only practical advantage of GNOME over Sugar is its flexibility. If we lock it down too much, it would become quite useless. Rather than preventing breakage at all costs, which is rather hard, we could spend some time to improve our backup/restore procedures to minimize the chance of user data loss. Tch and Jasg have been working with Esteban (Plan Ceibal) to cleanup and enhance backups. I'll merge their patches over the next few days to give them some exposure, even though we're still there are several opportunities for enhancement. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
From previous e-mails I know there were some challenges fitting the default layout but I'm still kind of surprised that it's become final. Best of luck with deployments and do give some feedback from deployments if possible. I personally wouldn't look twice at a laptop with a keyboard like that but I'm curious to see the real world feedback. Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: tiago wrote: Hi, Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a prototype? that's the final arrangement. paul Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel part 2 text/plain 129 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
tiago wrote: From previous e-mails I know there were some challenges fitting the default layout but I'm still kind of surprised that it's become final. Best of luck with deployments and do give some feedback from deployments if possible. I personally wouldn't look twice at a laptop with a keyboard like that but I'm curious to see the real world feedback. it's certainly not perfect. the fact is that in a netbook-sized keyboard there isn't room to put all of the letters and punctuation and everything else in their proper places. paul Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: tiago wrote: Hi, Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a prototype? that's the final arrangement. paul Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel part 2 text/plain 129 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: libdlo
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: On 04/22/2010 10:26 AM, John Watlington wrote: Sameer, You want us to add software to our build so that you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ? I'm sorry, but building more computer labs isn't what OLPC is about. Where are you reading that displaylink requires a separate keyboard and mouse? libdlo supports the chip and the protocol not any specific device. While not immediately usefull overall I think this is a +1 since I've received several requests via the support gang list on how to make the USB VGA adapter work. Many have tried and seems everyone but the original has failed. USB projectors are listed as products that might be useful (if the have the currently spported chip or when other chips are added) All the the requests for a USB video were so they could hook it up to a projector for training classes. The possibility of USB projector support seems very worthwhile. If none of the projectors are supported yet then there's not much point in adding it to the build but if someone gets a projector working then we certainly should support it. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel I now have a DisplayLink Certified device. I'd be happy to test this out if the drivers/support make it into the builds. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Campus Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
