Re: libdlo
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: On 04/22/2010 10:26 AM, John Watlington wrote: Sameer, You want us to add software to our build so that you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ? I'm sorry, but building more computer labs isn't what OLPC is about. Where are you reading that displaylink requires a separate keyboard and mouse? libdlo supports the chip and the protocol not any specific device. While not immediately usefull overall I think this is a +1 since I've received several requests via the support gang list on how to make the USB VGA adapter work. Many have tried and seems everyone but the original has failed. USB projectors are listed as products that might be useful (if the have the currently spported chip or when other chips are added) All the the requests for a USB video were so they could hook it up to a projector for training classes. The possibility of USB projector support seems very worthwhile. If none of the projectors are supported yet then there's not much point in adding it to the build but if someone gets a projector working then we certainly should support it. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel I now have a DisplayLink Certified device. I'd be happy to test this out if the drivers/support make it into the builds. I remember reading quite some time ago that there was a open source driver released for the DisplayLink devices but I'm not sure what the upstream support in X is and whether the driver has yet made it into mainline X.org and hence whether its supported yet in Fedora. Checking with Fedora 13 or rawhide would likely be the best route for testing and then filing a request upstream. Regards, Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.5 HS version announced
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: From previous e-mails I know there were some challenges fitting the default layout but I'm still kind of surprised that it's become final. Best of luck with deployments and do give some feedback from deployments if possible. I personally wouldn't look twice at a laptop with a keyboard like that but I'm curious to see the real world feedback. Best regards, Tiago For what it is worth, feedback was solicited (and received) from deployments. But as you suggest, the only way to really know is to get the machines into the field. -walter On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: tiago wrote: Hi, Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a prototype? that's the final arrangement. paul Best regards, Tiago On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:41 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: As usual, by a random news outlet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10309116.stm These laptops are the XO-1.5 motherboard, but with a non-membrane keyboard. Thanks to Walter Bender for the layout, visible at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard The exciting news, for those who have been working with the traditional XO, is that we've redesigned the lower half to make the keyboard easy to remove for repair. We will phase this in across all XO laptops as tooling allows. The color scheme of the HS laptops will be dark/light blue. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel part 2 text/plain 129 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME and protecting Sugar --
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: During the last development cycle we lacked the time to lock-down GNOME a little more and we're still paying the consequences :-( Ouch. - Were there any other problems? Solutions? Indeed, some kids manage to do damage Sugar, with or without intention. More frequently, they mess up the panel icons in ways that make it difficult to restore functionality. Mess up the panel icons in Sugar or in Gnome? In one case, a kid managed to click Disable Networking in nm-applet and then switch back to Sugar. Not Disable Wireless, that would have been easy! It took me one hour of debugging to figure that out. That would be in Gnome. Everyone, including teachers and teacher trainers, manages to fill up the filesystem with large multimedia files downloaded from the Internet, solowing down the system due to frequent jffs2 garbage collections. That has nothing to do with Gnome. In some cases, it's not the user's fault: various programs, including Firefox and Browse, can hide up to 50MB of junk in dot-files. Clever users managed to discover some of these locations and passed the word. Good to know. Still, not much to do with Gnome. ... To mitigate the problem: - lock down the panel: http://library.gnome.org/admin/deployment-guide/ - add a panic button to olpc-configure which would bring up a text menu with various recovery functions, such as resetting GNOME configuration to its default and clearing temporary caches. - remove the desktop switcher icon from the Sugar control panel give the field technicians a secret shell command to restore it. This should prevent children who are too young to figure it out. - Hide the Activities. We can't really make them read-only or immutable because the updater runs as user olpc. - Also hide .sugar Ok -- that's a good initial guide - thanks! m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11
El Tue, 27-04-2010 a las 15:27 +0100, Peter Robinson escribió: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, Using VncLauncher-4 on F11: it fails to start the VNC server because the binary links against the wrong version of libssl. This activity is used very often in deployments for presentations, training sessions, etc, so it would be nice to have a new version. Some time around F-11 Fedora moved from the standard vnc to tigervnc for various different reasons (don't remember the exact time or reasons). Do any of the tigervnc* packages provide the same functionality? Carlos created a new bundle with an updated libssl. It should already be available from ASLO. Carlos? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: GNOME and protecting Sugar --
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 08:19 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: Indeed, some kids manage to do damage Sugar, with or without intention. More frequently, they mess up the panel icons in ways that make it difficult to restore functionality. Mess up the panel icons in Sugar or in Gnome? In GNOME. If you try hard enough, apparently you can make some icons become invisible and unreachable even though they're somewhere in the panel. Everyone, including teachers and teacher trainers, manages to fill up the filesystem with large multimedia files downloaded from the Internet, solowing down the system due to frequent jffs2 garbage collections. That has nothing to do with Gnome. The problem is applications bypassing the journal: it becomes hard to hunt down these files to reclaim the space. In some cases, it's not the user's fault: various programs, including Firefox and Browse, can hide up to 50MB of junk in dot-files. Clever users managed to discover some of these locations and passed the word. Good to know. Still, not much to do with Gnome. Yes, it's the individual applications, but it's hard for users to figure out why the disk became full after using Firefox, and how to solve the problem. If users learn that deleting random dot files in their homes could fix problems, there's a risk that they will try to delete them at random. Ok -- that's a good initial guide - thanks! Let me know if you do some work in this direction, I'd be very interested in joining efforts. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Welcoming Gary Chiang to OLPC
I would like to announce that Gary Chiang has joined OLPC as a contractor, working on hardware development and teaching repair procedures. Gary is no stranger to the project, having worked on all OLPC laptops while at Quanta Computer, Inc. He has the distinction of having worked on OLPC hardware for longer than anyone else, starting with Mark Foster early in the XO-1 development! Gary will be based out of Taipei for now, and can be reached at g...@laptop.org. Cheers, John Watlington ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/2010 10:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Yes, it's the individual applications, but it's hard for users to figure out why the disk became full after using Firefox, and how to solve the problem. Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baobab_(software) if you want something GUI-oriented that will show you what's using your disk. - -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwY5QsACgkQtrC51grHAgbwOwCgmZcreXq5f8oGnML9S3OU5TD2 WOQAn1jcraKZ9+t7SoXlkJlwEeLgOVBW =yRHT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XO Registration Failed with XS
hello, I am trying to register my xo's with the school server we setup at our place, from which some XO's got registered with XS, but some are failed to register. The steps I do as follow: 1. We don't have any active antenna or 2 network cards so we use Wireless router which act as DHCP server for 172.18.0.255 range. 2. On Schoolserver, I tried very hard to bind 'lanbond0' device with eth0 but I failed to do that, so I use a simple hack, I down all the Virtual interfaces including 'lanbond0' and all mshbond and give ip address of lanbond0 i.e 172.18.0.1 to eth0, which by default connect to all internal services of school server. 3. Now I am able to ping from my XO to XS via Router. 4. In each XO i had change the server address located at XO-- Control panel-- network--Server: my server name/hostname, also I change /etc/hosts file entry to 172.18.0.1 my server hostname, because I had not setup a DNS server yet. 5. I am able to ping using hostname of server and even able to register some XO properly. 6. Some XO's failed to register so I upgrade the build OS to latest one 802, after doing this some of get registered. But not all, some of the XO still showing me a same problem after upgrading build OS. What will be the reason for XO not registering to XS if it's ping properly, talk to XS? It's very important to register all the XO with XS because lot of services like idmgr, backup XO and moodle will workout once it get registered with XS. Please provide me the solution for this. -- Ganesh (Dragger) Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Welcoming Gary Chiang to OLPC
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:48 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: I would like to announce that Gary Chiang has joined OLPC as a contractor, working on hardware development and teaching repair procedures. Gary is no stranger to the project, having worked on all OLPC laptops while at Quanta Computer, Inc. He has the distinction of having worked on OLPC hardware for longer than anyone else, starting with Mark Foster early in the XO-1 development! Gary will be based out of Taipei for now, and can be reached at g...@laptop.org. Welcome and good luck. Cheers, John Watlington ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things. — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] VncLauncher doesn't run on F11
El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 13:34 -0400, Carlos Daniel Garay Ayala escribió: Is available on ASLO as activity VNCLauncher. I can't find it in the public list nor in the review queue. Can you try again? -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XO Registration Failed with XS
Hi Ganesh, welcome to the list, and thanks for working on a deployment! You are giving us very good info on the setup, and the steps you are following. First -- using a wireless router, instead of an XS with 2 network cards as the router is probably part of the problem. When you associate an XO to the Wifi signal, can you ping schoolserver ? Second -- there is a known bug in Sugar where if you try to register _before associating to the AP_ it fails, and then it will not see the XS even if you associate to the AP properly. If you reboot (or restart Sugar with ctr-alt-backspace) the problem disappears. Third -- do NOT associate lanbond0 to eth0. It wll make a big mess of the network setup. Instead, use the xs-swapnics script so that the network card you have becomes eth1 . 4. In each XO i had change the server address located at XO-- Control You should not do that -- you are going to go crazy. The XS is really designed and preconfigured to be the router of your network, it provides DHCP and DNS and registers specific IP addresses and DNS names that the XO tries to use. My recommendation: get the cheapest network card you can buy and put it in the XS. Seriously. If you absolutely cannot have the XS running the network, see the techniques and scripts that Jerry Vonau has posted to this list (you can use google to search over site:lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel your search terms ). cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Unregister - Register
Hello, One of our XS had to be replaced (hd broken). The problem is that the XO's were already register in the old schoolserver and only a few of them weren't register and now are registered in the new XS. Because of this only the XO that are registered on the new XS are being back-upped. Is there a massive-efficient way to unregister and then re register the XO? Regards, Carlos Garay Paraguayan Deployment ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
