Sandisk extreme 32GB and 16GB dont initialize in XO-1.75
Hi all, I've been working on a XO-1.75 as XS project. The smallest form factor XS would use an SD card for School Server storage. So I purchased fast, large SD cards from Amazon. These cards work in my mac, and they initialize, and appear to work on the XO-1.5 running build 860. The XO-1.75 software is build 21 (12.1.0), firmware is Q4D17. The error message in the /var/log/messages is: Oct 7 11:18:44 schoolserver kernel: [157819.81] sdhci: Switching to 1.8V signalling voltage failed, retrying with S18R set to 0 Oct 7 11:18:44 schoolserver kernel: [157819.876896] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card In my reading about SD cards, I discover that some SD cards are not genuine. I have looked at /sys/... and the manufacturing number was 003 which is appropriate for sandisk. This error message is mentioned in Ticket #11736 I'd be happy to give more info, or do testing. George ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Xo1.5 crashes
So when i plug one usb device into the xo be it an ipod or a cell phone while running on battery the screen goes white and the laptop reboots. It works fine when plugged in charging though. I just wanted to let you all know what im experiencing. I believe the devices are drawing too much current from the laptop and forcing a reboot. It doesnt matter which usb port i plug it into. Thanks Aaron Bedford IT Admin ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)
Bug? A SD card, with a .Rpm file, crashes the XO whereas any external device should only be used as a booting device if there is a boot image in it or is this an assumption in XO? I re-flashed the XO but the Linux installation needs to be re-done. Thoughts or any past experiences, anyone, on this? -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Turtle Confusion en Español
Muy bueno. También disfrutar de esta actividad Sugar: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleConfusion regards. -walter 2012/10/7 Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com: = Versión en Español = Hola a todos, Les escribo para anunciar la publicación oficial de la traducción al Español del libro de Barry Newell, Turtle Confusion. La misma se puede encontrar en su versión OnLine[1] o también en su versión en PDF[2]. Estamos muy contentos de finalmente hacer ésta publicación ya que se hizo un esfuerzo muy grande para llevarla adelante y creemos que es un libro muy útil en el mundo de la programación y la educación. ¡Espero que le sirva a muchos docentes, alumnos, padres y a quien sea! = English Version = Hi all, I'm writing to announce the official publication of the Spanish translation of the book Turtle Consfusion by Barry Newell. This translation can be found in its OnLine version[1] and in its PDF[2] version as well. We are very happy of finally being able to do this publication because a great effort has been done to make it possible and we believe that this book is really useful in the programming and educational world. We hope that many teachers, students, parents and anyone can benefit from it! [1] http://turtle-confusion-spanish-version.readthedocs.org [2] https://github.com/downloads/humitos/turtle-confusion-es/la-confusion-de-la-tortuga.pdf -- Kaufmann Manuel Blog: http://humitos.wordpress.com/ Porfolio: http://fotos.mkaufmann.com.ar/ PyAr: http://www.python.com.ar/ -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Xo1.5 crashes
Since I don't own a cell phone, I've never tried charging from an XO. My external USB storage devices are all self-powered; and my other USB devices (adapters, microscopes, keyboards, etc.) are all low-power devices. In about four years of using XO-1.5s, I haven't ever had the XO-1.5 crash when I dynamically plugged any USB device in. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Xo1.5 crashes
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: Since I don't own a cell phone, I've never tried charging from an XO. My external USB storage devices are all self-powered; and my other USB devices (adapters, microscopes, keyboards, etc.) are all low-power devices. In about four years of using XO-1.5s, I haven't ever had the XO-1.5 crash when I dynamically plugged any USB device in. I experienced this a couple of years ago in SF when doing my myriad of gadget tests, Hence, the reason I bought my powered USB hub is that I (more than once) plugged in an external USB powered USB mini CD drive and the 1.5 screen went slowly all weird then white. If I remember, I was informed that anything that draws more than 500mA kinda breaks USB rules- and that would include iPhones and iPads. Using a double dongle tries to kluge it on PC's, but this doesn't have any better effect on the 1.5 - something to do with power flowing downhill. I think I was also told that it doesn't happen on the XO 1 because of the presence of some diode or sumpin that keeps the USB device from draining out too fast. Since I now (like Mikus) use powered hubs for anything that needs more than 500mA of power, I have forgotten the exact explanation. I believe it was Richard who explained it to me, and basically told me to cease and desist at the risk of doing damage to the 1.5. Perhaps he can chime in again on this. Cheers, KG mikus __**_ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/**listinfo/develhttp://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Xo1.5 crashes
Hello! We have one XO 1.5 that have that problem.We used it for our Butiá project. When plug an arduino board into the usb, the XO rebootsinstantanly. Now, with our PIC18F.. that it speak directly USB works perfectly! The question: the problem is the usb conversion of the arduino board?Some devices speak serial, no usb direclty.. Regards! Alan Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:28:52 -0600 Subject: Xo1.5 crashes From: aaronbedf...@gmail.com To: Devel@lists.laptop.org So when i plug one usb device into the xo be it an ipod or a cell phone while running on battery the screen goes white and the laptop reboots. It works fine when plugged in charging though. I just wanted to let you all know what im experiencing. I believe the devices are drawing too much current from the laptop and forcing a reboot. It doesnt matter which usb port i plug it into. Thanks Aaron Bedford IT Admin ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Xo1.5 crashes
In the case that alan is describing with the XO 1.5 the arduino was connected to the power supply. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello! We have one XO 1.5 that have that problem. We used it for our Butiá project. When plug an arduino board into the usb, the XO reboots instantanly. Now, with our PIC18F.. that it speak directly USB works perfectly! The question: the problem is the usb conversion of the arduino board? Some devices speak serial, no usb direclty.. Regards! Alan Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:28:52 -0600 Subject: Xo1.5 crashes From: aaronbedf...@gmail.com To: Devel@lists.laptop.org So when i plug one usb device into the xo be it an ipod or a cell phone while running on battery the screen goes white and the laptop reboots. It works fine when plugged in charging though. I just wanted to let you all know what im experiencing. I believe the devices are drawing too much current from the laptop and forcing a reboot. It doesnt matter which usb port i plug it into. Thanks Aaron Bedford IT Admin ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4
The ball? What ball? release. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE Latest sugar builds GNOME 3.6 Fixed bugs: #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard #12088 Browse died on XO-1 with SIGILL in 13.1.0 Activity changes: -Abacus-37 -Browse-141 +Abacus-39 +Browse-142 -Clock-9 +Clock-10 -ImageViewer-21 +ImageViewer-51 -Paint-45 +Paint-46 -Pippy-49 +Pippy-50 -TamTamEdit-63 -TamTamJam-63 -TamTamMini-63 -TamTamSynthLab-63 +TamTamEdit-66 +TamTamJam-66 +TamTamMini-66 +TamTamSynthLab-66 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)
On Oct 7, 2012, at 2:04 PM, RJV wrote: Bug? A SD card, with a .Rpm file, crashes the XO whereas any external device should only be used as a booting device if there is a boot image in it or is this an assumption in XO? We would need to know if your XO is in developer mode or locked down. I re-flashed the XO but the Linux installation needs to be re-done. Huh ? Were you running something other than the OLPC build ? Thoughts or any past experiences, anyone, on this? Shouldn't happen. One possibility is that some XO-1's weren't as robust as they should have, and many SD cards push the standard. Try another card if possible, or run some data tests of the SD card to test this. Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard Yay!!! Is the evdev trickery all hooked up? Does ebook mode DTRT? cheers, m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4
On 7 Oct 2012 23:17, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard Yay!!! Is the evdev trickery all hooked up? Does ebook mode DTRT? Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now cheers, m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now Installed, quick test. You're right, the ebook trigger isn't happening. And I cannot type with it -- Write won't show input from the OSK, home view search box won't show input from OSK. The touchscreen scale_{x,y} defaults are killing me. They make the UI _very_ awkward to use -- I average 2.5 touches before I can hit a moderately large button (next, or the stop icon). This is because the offset the driver applies shifts in every spot of the screen, it's a devilish thing. Paul, can we crank those defaults way down? Or add a dampening / ramp up effect to the offset that is flat in most of the screen, but quickly ramps up near edges? (If you don't believe me, install OS5 and use Sugar with the touchscreen for a while). thanks! m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Armenia has been raised as one possible extra, but not yet confirmed. We definitely have a deployment in Armenia, and it is bilingual Armenian and Russian. Physical keyboard layout is Armenian, IIRC. I'd liketo have both langs. Perhaps once XO-4's start to land and folks play with the OSK we'll see some formal requests. Everyone remembers about these things the week before their units arrive, and chaos ensues. Been there, bled through it ;-) Let's DTRT: coordinate with Reuben to make sure we have good coverage up front. After all, we will do the job. Timeliness is next to godliness, specially with HW lead times and OS release lead times. m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4
martin wrote: On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now Installed, quick test. You're right, the ebook trigger isn't happening. And I cannot type with it -- Write won't show input from the OSK, home view search box won't show input from OSK. The touchscreen scale_{x,y} defaults are killing me. They make the UI _very_ awkward to use -- I average 2.5 touches before I can hit a moderately large button (next, or the stop icon). This is because the offset the driver applies shifts in every spot of the screen, it's a devilish thing. Paul, can we crank those defaults way down? Or add a dampening / ramp up effect to the offset that is flat in most of the screen, but quickly ramps up near edges? (If you don't believe me, install OS5 and use Sugar with the touchscreen for a while). as i said the other day, the kernel driver should either do no scaling by default, or it should make every pixel on the screen touchable with a standard pointing instrument (i.e., a stylus). the latter is what it does now -- perhaps exaggerated. but any other midway decision between those extremes (which i agree is probably the right thing) constitutes policy, and therefore belongs at user level. which is to say, i think the correct defaults belong in olpc-utils, along with the countless other XO useablility tweaks that are already there. (once that change is firmly in place, i'll probably revert the driver to default to no scaling at all.) paul thanks! m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Turtle Confusion en Español
Felicitaciones! Creo que es un muy buen libro para que los docentes encuentren un uso mas profundo de TurtleArt. Que bueno que lo hayan traducido. Gonzalo 2012/10/7 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com Muy bueno. También disfrutar de esta actividad Sugar: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleConfusion regards. -walter 2012/10/7 Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com: = Versión en Español = Hola a todos, Les escribo para anunciar la publicación oficial de la traducción al Español del libro de Barry Newell, Turtle Confusion. La misma se puede encontrar en su versión OnLine[1] o también en su versión en PDF[2]. Estamos muy contentos de finalmente hacer ésta publicación ya que se hizo un esfuerzo muy grande para llevarla adelante y creemos que es un libro muy útil en el mundo de la programación y la educación. ¡Espero que le sirva a muchos docentes, alumnos, padres y a quien sea! = English Version = Hi all, I'm writing to announce the official publication of the Spanish translation of the book Turtle Consfusion by Barry Newell. This translation can be found in its OnLine version[1] and in its PDF[2] version as well. We are very happy of finally being able to do this publication because a great effort has been done to make it possible and we believe that this book is really useful in the programming and educational world. We hope that many teachers, students, parents and anyone can benefit from it! [1] http://turtle-confusion-spanish-version.readthedocs.org [2] https://github.com/downloads/humitos/turtle-confusion-es/la-confusion-de-la-tortuga.pdf -- Kaufmann Manuel Blog: http://humitos.wordpress.com/ Porfolio: http://fotos.mkaufmann.com.ar/ PyAr: http://www.python.com.ar/ -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Xo1.5 crashes
On 10/07/2012 03:22 PM, Andres Aguirre wrote: In the case that alan is describing with the XO 1.5 the arduino was connected to the power supply. See if interposing a __powered__ hub between the XO-1.5 and the arduino will make a difference. WARNING: I have encountered powered USB hubs that have VIOLATED the USB specification - they can emit power on the SMALL socket that normally is used for the USB cable that connects to the computer. It is my understanding that only the LARGE sockets are supposed to be able to supply power to the connected device. [I do not know what kind of USB socket the arduino has.] IIRC, Richard warned about connecting an XO's USB socket to any USB device where that devices's USB socket can emit power (that sets up a condition where a non-XO device can try to send power to the XO -- which is a no_no). mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Tests 13.1.0 devel build 5
Hi, I download the image for my XO-1 and found a few of problems: -connect to wifi: my router have an encrypted network, and when I click on them to conenct,the enter your password window not appears.-the keyboard option in the control panel not works. If you click some times, the XO reboots!!-DESIGN: the cross of the GTK text box no are vertical centered (see attach image gtk_text_box.png)-the home, in the list view, sometimes shows an strange name of the activities (I think a badredraw.. I attach: home_list_view.png)-why the summary info no appears in the home list view yet?-in the journal: why don't have multi-select option? that is a good feature! Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space
We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are desperately in need of some space. We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage. My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card. Any comment, suggestion, feedback? Regards, Roshan Karki ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space
What is your problem in upgrading? Problem with your network bandwidth? Jv On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.org wrote: We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are desperately in need of some space. We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage. My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card. Any comment, suggestion, feedback? Regards, Roshan Karki ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: What is your problem in upgrading? Problem with your network bandwidth? Some non technical reason. But this isn't the question I'm asking :) Jv On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Roshan Karki ros...@olenepal.org wrote: We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are desperately in need of some space. We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage. My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card. Any comment, suggestion, feedback? Regards, Roshan Karki ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Regards, Ravichandran Jv http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Tests 13.1.0 devel build 5
-why the summary info no appears in the home list view yet? Probably will not be ready to 0.98 :( We have a lot of work pending, and we couldn't finish a design acceptable to all yet. Gonzalo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On 6 October 2012 10:17, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 Google docs complains browser is out of date. Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart it. This only happened once. Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668. On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day. Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be removed if it can’t be fixed. Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the canvas before it does anything. Can you explain in a detail for the above defect please. XO-1.5 Ivy maze works ruler works speak works paint works memorize works crazy touchpad/pointer? write __**_ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/**listinfo/olpc-auhttp://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au* ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On 6 October 2012 13:27, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks for testing. On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 Google docs complains browser is out of date. Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! noted Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar. Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that. That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere. Well it is if you use browse to view activities.sugarlabs.org, but I suspect the activity was downloaded to a usbkey on a different machine then auto installed by launching it from the usbkey. Think the real fix might run deep into sugar's inner workings, some discussion at http://sugardextrose.org/issues/1532 Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel