Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[James Cameron]

On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 08:51:12PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Martin Langhoff
>  wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> >> The "ball? What ball?" release.
> >>
> >> THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE
> 
> Has anyone else had trouble getting to the OK prompt in OFW? When I
> boot with the gamekeys down, it seems that OFW is detecting some
> spurious keypress and gets stuck in a cycle of error msgs due to the
> bad command being typed. Any workarounds?

Yes, Q7B02 for XO-4 fixed this for me.  Q7B01 had the problem.

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Re: [FATAL] No popup appears, to ask for secrets when connecting to Wifi-Network in Neighborhood-View

[Ajay Garg]

Oops..
Just applied the fix, as per
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040187.html,
and the popup appears now !!

Thanks !!!

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Seems that the same issue happens on XO-1 as well, as reported at
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040173.html
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Steps to reproduce ::
>>
>> 1)
>> Flash the image http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os4/xo-1.75/31004o2.zd,
>> via ::
>>
>>  devalias fsdisk ext:0
>>  fs-update u:\31004o2.zd
>>
>>
>> 2)
>> Reboot.
>>
>>
>> 3)
>> Disable all Power-Management in "My Settings" -> "Power".
>>
>>
>> 4)
>> Reboot.
>>
>>
>> 5)
>> Try connecting to a protected Wifi-network via Neighborhood-View.
>> NO SECRETS-popup appears.
>>
>>
>> Please find attached "~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log"; and
>> "/var/log/messages".
>>
>> Also note that this is a persistentlt, consistent issue.
>>
>>
>> Please let me know if any other information is required.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ajay Garg
>> Dextrose Developer
>> Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
>>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ajay Garg
> Dextrose Developer
> Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
>



Regards,

Ajay Garg
Dextrose Developer
Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
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Re: [FATAL] No popup appears, to ask for secrets when connecting to Wifi-Network in Neighborhood-View

[Ajay Garg]

Seems that the same issue happens on XO-1 as well, as reported at
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040173.html

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Steps to reproduce ::
>
> 1)
> Flash the image http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os4/xo-1.75/31004o2.zd,
> via ::
>
>  devalias fsdisk ext:0
>  fs-update u:\31004o2.zd
>
>
> 2)
> Reboot.
>
>
> 3)
> Disable all Power-Management in "My Settings" -> "Power".
>
>
> 4)
> Reboot.
>
>
> 5)
> Try connecting to a protected Wifi-network via Neighborhood-View.
> NO SECRETS-popup appears.
>
>
> Please find attached "~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log"; and
> "/var/log/messages".
>
> Also note that this is a persistentlt, consistent issue.
>
>
> Please let me know if any other information is required.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ajay Garg
> Dextrose Developer
> Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
>



Regards,

Ajay Garg
Dextrose Developer
Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
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Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Walter Bender  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Martin Langhoff
>  wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>>> The "ball? What ball?" release.
>>>
>>> THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE
>
> Has anyone else had trouble getting to the OK prompt in OFW? When I
> boot with the gamekeys down, it seems that OFW is detecting some
> spurious keypress and gets stuck in a cycle of error msgs due to the
> bad command being typed. Any workarounds?

I tested the XO 1.5 and a couple of 1.75s that I had close handy and
they both worked fine. My XO-1 that I'd used previously had issues and
I didn't have time to dig another one out to test it. What type of
machine was it?

Peter
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Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> The "ball? What ball?" release.
>>
>> THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE
>
> Users on XO-4 need to be aware of lots of limitations -- no
> suspend/resume, no audio, etc. We need a quick status page for this
> :-/
>
> Also, if you find you have no disk space free, please make yourself
> heard at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12150

Martin was this still an issue on os5? I rebuilt the binaries to make
sure there wasn't any changes that hadn't been in the binary to see if
an old zhashfs may have been the cause of that.

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Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Hal Murray]

> Has anyone else had trouble getting to the OK prompt in OFW? When I boot
> with the gamekeys down, it seems that OFW is detecting some spurious
> keypress and gets stuck in a cycle of error msgs due to the bad command
> being typed. Any workarounds? 

I just tried it on an unlocked XO-1.  Lots of Trying xxx messages, but it 
didn't find anything.  It ended with "Boot failed" and "Use power button to 
power off."

It all looked reasonable to me but I don't know what older versions did.



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Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Walter Bender]

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> The "ball? What ball?" release.
>>
>> THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE

Has anyone else had trouble getting to the OK prompt in OFW? When I
boot with the gamekeys down, it seems that OFW is detecting some
spurious keypress and gets stuck in a cycle of error msgs due to the
bad command being typed. Any workarounds?

-walter

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Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[James Cameron]

G'day Jv,

I will reply to this e-mail regardless of your wish that I not,
because I feel I should defend someone who is a regular and helpful
contributor.

I think you have misinterpreted the private mail from Mikus.  I do not
see any spiteful tone or offensive behaviour.  He is trying to
understand by asking questions and using emphasis.

It is helpful to use words that have common meanings, and your mail,
Jv, was harder to understand than others, because the meanings you
used were not common.  I avoided answering it because I didn't
understand.  It is good that someone tried to understand, even if I
didn't.

I am surprised that you made public a private mail ... this is not
something I would be comfortable doing, but I acknowledge you felt
hurt.

I ask that you please re-read Mikus mail with greater care, starting
with the assumption that Mikus is trying to communicate despite the
apparent barrier of word meanings.

On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 07:42:27PM +0530, RJV wrote:
> Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to answer an email that
> is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks like human spam to me so
> marking your email id for spam and is so offensive in tone that I have a good
> mind to withdraw from this list. Did I forget to mention that I did not read
> more than three lines of your enail.
> 
> Do not reply to this email.
> 
> For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too spiteful in tone
> for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain unless of course if the
> email is okay as per the question.
> 
> Thanks for any coherent reply.
> 
> Jv
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs  wrote:
> 
> On 10/07/2012 10:44 PM, RJV wrote:
> 
> why I posted this is to know whether one
> reflashes all the time or is there a more graceful way of getting XO
> back
> on Sugar through Linux?
> 
> 
> I'm sorry - you and I are on completely different wavelengths.
> 
> You use phrases that mean something to you, but have NO significance
> whatsoever to me.  For instance "back on Sugar through Linux":
> 
> If one is in Sugar, there is the capability to get into GNOME by doing:
> left-click_on_XO-image -> My Settings -> Switch desktop -> Switch to Gnome
> -> Restart now ... and one is presented with the GNOME desktop. The
> principal use I myself see in Gnome is if the user wants to manage 
> multiple
> windows, or is uncomfortable with Sugar-style full screen.
> 
> I myself do NOT use GNOME if I can help it -- I find I can do almost
> everything I need from the 'Terminal Activity' screen in Sugar.
> [By the way, if you do not want the XO to suspend itself, you can go to My
> Settings -> Power, and unmark all the checkboxes in that panel.].
> 
> If one is in the GNOME environment, there is the capability to get into
> Sugar by doing: Applications -> System Tools -> Switch to Sugar -> OK ...
> and one is presented with the Sugar Home View screen.
> 
> 
> IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CLARITY THE WAY YOU ARE USING THE WORD 'LINUX'.
> 
> The XO runs Linux all the time, whether that XO happens to be in the Sugar
> environment or happens to be in the GNOME environment.  Please use the 
> word
> 'Linux' only when you mean a desktop system (or equivalent) running a 
> Linux
> distribution (such as Ubuntu).  Please use the word 'Windows' when you 
> mean
> a desktop system running Windows.  Please use the word 'Sugar' only when
> you mean an XO running in an Sugar environment.  Please use the term
> 'Sugar-on-non_XO' when you mean Sugar running on any kind of hardware 
> other
> than an XO.  Please use the word 'GNOME' when you mean an XO running in an
> 'GNOME' environment.  Please use the term 'GNOME-on-non_XO' when you mean
> GNOME running on any kind of hardware other than an XO.
> 
> 
> IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CLARITY THE WAY YOU ARE USING THE WORD 'FLASH'.
> 
> In the context of an XO:  Please use the word 'flash' when you mean using
> the OFW 'flash' command to replace the .rom firmware inside an XO.  Please
> use the term 'install the build' when you mean the process of replacing 
> (or
> putting) the operating system software inside an XO. Please avoid the word
> 'reflash' - it's sloppy; instead please use the word 'reinstall' and
> mention what it is you are reinstalling (e.g., 'reinstall the build' if 
> you
> mean replacing the operating system in the XO by a "virgin" copy).
> 
> 
> In the context of 'reinstalling' -- there is no NEED to "reinstall" the
> operating system in the XO unless the one you already have is corrupted 
> (or
> you have obtained access to a better/newer version).
> 
> 
> DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom provider) and may need
> some help on this.
> 
> 
> Given the kin

Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Martin Langhoff]

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> The "ball? What ball?" release.
>
> THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE

Users on XO-4 need to be aware of lots of limitations -- no
suspend/resume, no audio, etc. We need a quick status page for this
:-/

Also, if you find you have no disk space free, please make yourself
heard at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12150

cheers,



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Re: [OLPC New Zealand] [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On 8 October 2012 16:56, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
>
>
> On 6 October 2012 13:27, Walter Bender  wrote:
>>
>> Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that.
>> That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere.
>>
>
> Well it is if you use browse to view activities.sugarlabs.org, but I suspect
> the activity was downloaded to a usbkey on a different machine then auto
> installed by launching it from the usbkey. Think the real fix might run deep
> into sugar's inner workings, some discussion at
> http://sugardextrose.org/issues/1532

This is one of our greatest sources of technical support troubles.
People install incompatible bundles, sometimes over an existing
working one. If the activity is protected (which we do for our core
set), it can't be removed or downgraded easily.

IMHO the system should tell the user if the bundle they're installing
is not compatible with the OS/Sugar version they have installed.

Sridhar


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Engineering Manager
One Laptop per Child Australia
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Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[RJV]

Thanks, Jerry, i need to unplug the dongle now and use it on the XO...will
let you know of the results.

Thanks,

Jv

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:12 +0530, RJV wrote:
> > Hi Jerry,
> >
> >
> > Is this a response to my question? If yes, mine is a XO 1.75 C2 and
> > since I am new to Sugar and OLPC, I am not very good at the various
> > versions.
> >
> >
> > What I can tell you is that I have been through the Network Manager
> > but it asks for details (like username, password etc) that are needed
> > when I use the 3G dongle on a Windows box and which are not provided
> >  by the provider (India telecom provider - Airtel)
> >
> >
> > I thought of using the wvdial to set it up but do you mean that I can
> > plug in the dongle and it will plug and play? I did not want to try it
> > because of the mishap with the SD card.
> >
> >
>
> yes, plug and configure anyway. while in sugar right click on your XO's
> name -> "my setting" -> "power" un-check the checked box, click on the
> check in the upper right corner to save the change.
>
> click on "modem" and enter only the need info for your ISP, click on the
> check in the upper right corner to save the change. Click on the X in
> the upper right corner to exit "my settings"
>
> Jerry
>
> > Jv
> >
> >
> > >>I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
> > OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 19:42 +0530, RJV wrote:
> > > Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to
> > answer an
> > > email that is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks
> > like human
> > > spam to me so marking your email id for spam and is so
> > offensive in
> > > tone that I have a good mind to withdraw from this list. Did
> > I forget
> > > to mention that I did not read more than three lines of your
> > enail.
> > >
> > >
> > > Do not reply to this email.
> > >
> > >
> > > For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too
> > spiteful
> > > in tone for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain
> > unless of
> > > course if the email is okay as per the question.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Think we might need some clarification of what you tried to do
> > and if
> > you have sugar and/or gnome working or are you stuck at at
> > command
> > prompt somehow?
> >
> > 
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom
> > provider)
> > > and may need
> > > some help on this.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working
> > but on
> > OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would
> > __STRONGLY
> > > ADVISE__ you NOT to try using an XO for this
> > purpose:
> > >
> > > The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a
> > > "dongle".  But the "dongle" will need software.
> >  [You can only
> > > _hope_ that wvdial.rpm is the only significant item
> > of
> > > software you would need to pick up yourself.]  That
> > software
> > > will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be
> > installed
> > > in the operating system - will they be available?
> >  And will
> > > all the needed software run on an XO?  Is the
> > wvdial.rpm that
> > > you downloaded even meant for the ARM architecture?
> >  [Remember
> > > that (non-Android) ARM-CPU operating systems have
> > only
> > > recently arrived for general distribution.]
> > >
> > > There may also be difficulties tying in the Network
> > Management
> > > in an XO with a connection through 3G.  [I myself am
> > currently
> > > using an ethernet (wired) path to the internet from
> > my XO-1.75
> > > - but that takes advantage of me having four years
> > of
> > > experience using ethernet with XOs - others might
> > encounter
> > > hurdles.]
> > >
> > > In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e.,
> > cellular
> > > data).  So I do not expect to be able to help you.
> >   

Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[Jerry Vonau]

On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:12 +0530, RJV wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> 
> Is this a response to my question? If yes, mine is a XO 1.75 C2 and
> since I am new to Sugar and OLPC, I am not very good at the various
> versions.
> 
> 
> What I can tell you is that I have been through the Network Manager
> but it asks for details (like username, password etc) that are needed
> when I use the 3G dongle on a Windows box and which are not provided
>  by the provider (India telecom provider - Airtel)
> 
> 
> I thought of using the wvdial to set it up but do you mean that I can
> plug in the dongle and it will plug and play? I did not want to try it
> because of the mishap with the SD card.
> 
> 

yes, plug and configure anyway. while in sugar right click on your XO's
name -> "my setting" -> "power" un-check the checked box, click on the
check in the upper right corner to save the change. 

click on "modem" and enter only the need info for your ISP, click on the
check in the upper right corner to save the change. Click on the X in
the upper right corner to exit "my settings"

Jerry

> Jv
> 
> 
> >>I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
> OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 19:42 +0530, RJV wrote:
> > Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to
> answer an
> > email that is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks
> like human
> > spam to me so marking your email id for spam and is so
> offensive in
> > tone that I have a good mind to withdraw from this list. Did
> I forget
> > to mention that I did not read more than three lines of your
> enail.
> >
> >
> > Do not reply to this email.
> >
> >
> > For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too
> spiteful
> > in tone for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain
> unless of
> > course if the email is okay as per the question.
> >
> 
> 
> Think we might need some clarification of what you tried to do
> and if
> you have sugar and/or gnome working or are you stuck at at
> command
> prompt somehow?
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
> >
> >
> >
> > I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom
> provider)
> > and may need
> > some help on this.
> >
> 
> 
> I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working
> but on
> OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
> 
> 
> >
> > Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would
> __STRONGLY
> > ADVISE__ you NOT to try using an XO for this
> purpose:
> >
> > The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a
> > "dongle".  But the "dongle" will need software.
>  [You can only
> > _hope_ that wvdial.rpm is the only significant item
> of
> > software you would need to pick up yourself.]  That
> software
> > will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be
> installed
> > in the operating system - will they be available?
>  And will
> > all the needed software run on an XO?  Is the
> wvdial.rpm that
> > you downloaded even meant for the ARM architecture?
>  [Remember
> > that (non-Android) ARM-CPU operating systems have
> only
> > recently arrived for general distribution.]
> >
> > There may also be difficulties tying in the Network
> Management
> > in an XO with a connection through 3G.  [I myself am
> currently
> > using an ethernet (wired) path to the internet from
> my XO-1.75
> > - but that takes advantage of me having four years
> of
> > experience using ethernet with XOs - others might
> encounter
> > hurdles.]
> >
> > In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e.,
> cellular
> > data).  So I do not expect to be able to help you.
>  [I do have
> > an Android tablet - and you have no idea of how many
> people
> > have posted to its support forum about problems
> setting up
> > good 3G service.]
> >
> 
> 
> NetworkManager handles the 3g connections just fine though
> 

Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Hal Murray]

Were there any changes in the WiFi area for XO-1?

OS4 worked for me.  Now, I can't connect.  Clicking on my AP doesn't ask me 
for a password.

I remember discussions of this area, but I never had any troubles.


My neighborhood view shows my AP (and several others) and the 3 Mesh icons.  
The Mesh icons are not blinking.  That's what I expect.

But the WiFi LED isn't on.  It blinks occasionally.  Sometimes, new APs 
appear after the blinks.

I switched to Gnome and could connect there.  Now it works after switching 
back to Sugar.


Is there anything I can do to help debug this?


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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Gary Martin]

Hi Peter,

On 8 Oct 2012, at 15:09, Peter Robinson  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Chris Leonard  
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Gary Martin  
>> wrote:
>> 
 Are the layouts each in a distinct set of files? If so we could possibly 
 split out layouts to standalone packages to make it easy to add extras at 
 a later date.
>>> 
>>> Yes the language layouts are a distinct set of XML files in one directory. 
>>> They can be edited live on running system, so it's not like they really 
>>> need to be part of maliit-plugins build compilation.
>> 
>> If the OLPC OS build creators (e.g. dsd) do not plan to include all of
>> these files in "stock" releases, then we should definitely look at
>> incorporating them into language packs installs.
> 
> At the moment all layouts are packaged as part of the maliit-plugins package
> 
>> Just like with L10n MO files there may be good reasons (mostly size in
>> image) not to include them all, but in a such a case  we definitely
>> want to make them easy to find and easy to install, without much
>> technical knowledge, or even knowledge that they even exist.
> 
> The layouts are xml files and hence very small is size so the easiest
> way to install them would be to have them there by default.
> 
> My question to Gary about the layouts was more about how hard it would
> be to package them up separately so it's easy to add new layouts post
> release of a release. It's quicker to add a single package with a
> single layout than having to QA an entire release again.

How would you like them? I could just send you a zip of the files, though I 
guess you're after something a little more bundled, let me know ;) So this 
certainly seems a good way to go, though note I'm probably going to need at 
least one more pass at the style changes for this cycle (unfortunately key 
sizes are hardcoded in the style and I need to tweak there every now and againg 
to get a layout to work), which is a different set of files in maliit-plugins. 
These styles can also safely make their way up stream to Michael, leaving us 
just with our new language layouts to apply to builds.

Regards,
--Gary

>> With a little tweaking of the language pack generating script,
>> 
>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/pootle-helpers/mainline/trees/master/langpackgen
>> 
>> the language packs could serve that purpose.
> 
> I'm sure there's a number of ways to skin that cat :-)
> 
> Peter

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Re: "Turtle Confusion" en Español

[Manuel Kaufmann]

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Barry Newell  wrote:
> Congratulations to All!

Thanks! I'm very happy that you liked our work. It's mutual, we like yours :)

> The effort that you and your colleagues have put into this project, and the
> high quality of the end result, have prompted me to go ahead and produce the
> guide to the riddles.

That's an excellent news for me!

> I will not be able to do it quickly, but I will keep you updated on my
> progress. I will, unfortunately, have to write it in English.

Well, maybe we can help on the translation of it as well if you give
us permission. I think Melina would like to help on this translation.

> It will help us to make sure that the riddles still work after translation
> into Spanish.

I'm not pretty sure of this because we don't solve all the riddles yet
but it's something that we have in mind and we will do in the near
future. But... Maybe we never get the answers, haha ;)

Cheers,

PD: we are about to start the translation of "Turtles Speak
Mathematics" on the next week, I guess.

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Re: Best way to use SD card to increase XO-1 space

[RJV]

Ok :)

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Roshan Karki  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, RJV  wrote:
>
>> What is your problem in upgrading? Problem with your network bandwidth?
>
>
> Some non technical reason. But this isn't the question I'm asking :)
>
>
>
>>
>> Jv
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Roshan Karki wrote:
>>
>>> We have around 4000 XO-1s deployed around the country but we are still
>>> stuck with Sugar .82.1 . We do have upgrade plan but not anytime soon. Our
>>> educational software EPaath has grown to whooping 503 MB and thus we are
>>> desperately in need of some space.
>>>
>>> We would want to test one mini deployment with SD card. So I'm wondering
>>> what the best way would be to use SD card to increase XO-1 storage.
>>>
>>> My initial idea is to softlink /home/olpc/Activities to SD card.
>>>
>>> Any comment, suggestion, feedback?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Roshan Karki
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Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[RJV]

"that are needed when I use the 3G dongle on a Windows box"

please read it as *that are "not" needed"

Regards,

Jv

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:12 PM, RJV  wrote:

> Hi Jerry,
>
> Is this a response to my question? If yes, mine is a XO 1.75 C2 and since
> I am new to Sugar and OLPC, I am not very good at the various versions.
>
> What I can tell you is that I have been through the Network Manager but it
> asks for details (like username, password etc) that are needed when I use
> the 3G dongle on a Windows box and which are not provided  by the provider
> (India telecom provider - Airtel)
>
> I thought of using the wvdial to set it up but do you mean that I can plug
> in the dongle and it will plug and play? I did not want to try it because
> of the mishap with the SD card.
>
> Jv
>
> >>I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
> OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 19:42 +0530, RJV wrote:
>> > Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to answer an
>> > email that is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks like human
>> > spam to me so marking your email id for spam and is so offensive in
>> > tone that I have a good mind to withdraw from this list. Did I forget
>> > to mention that I did not read more than three lines of your enail.
>> >
>> >
>> > Do not reply to this email.
>> >
>> >
>> > For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too spiteful
>> > in tone for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain unless of
>> > course if the email is okay as per the question.
>> >
>>
>> Think we might need some clarification of what you tried to do and if
>> you have sugar and/or gnome working or are you stuck at at command
>> prompt somehow?
>>
>> 
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom provider)
>> > and may need
>> > some help on this.
>> >
>>
>> I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
>> OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would __STRONGLY
>> > ADVISE__ you NOT to try using an XO for this purpose:
>> >
>> > The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a
>> > "dongle".  But the "dongle" will need software.  [You can only
>> > _hope_ that wvdial.rpm is the only significant item of
>> > software you would need to pick up yourself.]  That software
>> > will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be installed
>> > in the operating system - will they be available?  And will
>> > all the needed software run on an XO?  Is the wvdial.rpm that
>> > you downloaded even meant for the ARM architecture?  [Remember
>> > that (non-Android) ARM-CPU operating systems have only
>> > recently arrived for general distribution.]
>> >
>> > There may also be difficulties tying in the Network Management
>> > in an XO with a connection through 3G.  [I myself am currently
>> > using an ethernet (wired) path to the internet from my XO-1.75
>> > - but that takes advantage of me having four years of
>> > experience using ethernet with XOs - others might encounter
>> > hurdles.]
>> >
>> > In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e., cellular
>> > data).  So I do not expect to be able to help you.  [I do have
>> > an Android tablet - and you have no idea of how many people
>> > have posted to its support forum about problems setting up
>> > good 3G service.]
>> >
>>
>> NetworkManager handles the 3g connections just fine though
>> modem-manager, no need to add any other software.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
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Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[RJV]

Hi Jerry,

Is this a response to my question? If yes, mine is a XO 1.75 C2 and since I
am new to Sugar and OLPC, I am not very good at the various versions.

What I can tell you is that I have been through the Network Manager but it
asks for details (like username, password etc) that are needed when I use
the 3G dongle on a Windows box and which are not provided  by the provider
(India telecom provider - Airtel)

I thought of using the wvdial to set it up but do you mean that I can plug
in the dongle and it will plug and play? I did not want to try it because
of the mishap with the SD card.

Jv

>>I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 19:42 +0530, RJV wrote:
> > Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to answer an
> > email that is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks like human
> > spam to me so marking your email id for spam and is so offensive in
> > tone that I have a good mind to withdraw from this list. Did I forget
> > to mention that I did not read more than three lines of your enail.
> >
> >
> > Do not reply to this email.
> >
> >
> > For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too spiteful
> > in tone for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain unless of
> > course if the email is okay as per the question.
> >
>
> Think we might need some clarification of what you tried to do and if
> you have sugar and/or gnome working or are you stuck at at command
> prompt somehow?
>
> 
>
> >
> >
> > DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
> >
> >
> >
> > I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom provider)
> > and may need
> > some help on this.
> >
>
> I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
> OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.
>
>
> >
> > Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would __STRONGLY
> > ADVISE__ you NOT to try using an XO for this purpose:
> >
> > The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a
> > "dongle".  But the "dongle" will need software.  [You can only
> > _hope_ that wvdial.rpm is the only significant item of
> > software you would need to pick up yourself.]  That software
> > will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be installed
> > in the operating system - will they be available?  And will
> > all the needed software run on an XO?  Is the wvdial.rpm that
> > you downloaded even meant for the ARM architecture?  [Remember
> > that (non-Android) ARM-CPU operating systems have only
> > recently arrived for general distribution.]
> >
> > There may also be difficulties tying in the Network Management
> > in an XO with a connection through 3G.  [I myself am currently
> > using an ethernet (wired) path to the internet from my XO-1.75
> > - but that takes advantage of me having four years of
> > experience using ethernet with XOs - others might encounter
> > hurdles.]
> >
> > In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e., cellular
> > data).  So I do not expect to be able to help you.  [I do have
> > an Android tablet - and you have no idea of how many people
> > have posted to its support forum about problems setting up
> > good 3G service.]
> >
>
> NetworkManager handles the 3g connections just fine though
> modem-manager, no need to add any other software.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[Jerry Vonau]

On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 19:42 +0530, RJV wrote:
> Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to answer an
> email that is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks like human
> spam to me so marking your email id for spam and is so offensive in
> tone that I have a good mind to withdraw from this list. Did I forget
> to mention that I did not read more than three lines of your enail.
> 
> 
> Do not reply to this email.
> 
> 
> For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too spiteful
> in tone for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain unless of
> course if the email is okay as per the question.
> 

Think we might need some clarification of what you tried to do and if
you have sugar and/or gnome working or are you stuck at at command
prompt somehow?



> 
> 
> DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
> 
> 
> 
> I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom provider)
> and may need
> some help on this.
> 

I can help you with this part, my 3G dongle is 100% working but on
OLPC-AU images so there might be some small differences here.


> 
> Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would __STRONGLY
> ADVISE__ you NOT to try using an XO for this purpose:
> 
> The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a
> "dongle".  But the "dongle" will need software.  [You can only
> _hope_ that wvdial.rpm is the only significant item of
> software you would need to pick up yourself.]  That software
> will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be installed
> in the operating system - will they be available?  And will
> all the needed software run on an XO?  Is the wvdial.rpm that
> you downloaded even meant for the ARM architecture?  [Remember
> that (non-Android) ARM-CPU operating systems have only
> recently arrived for general distribution.]
> 
> There may also be difficulties tying in the Network Management
> in an XO with a connection through 3G.  [I myself am currently
> using an ethernet (wired) path to the internet from my XO-1.75
> - but that takes advantage of me having four years of
> experience using ethernet with XOs - others might encounter
> hurdles.]
> 
> In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e., cellular
> data).  So I do not expect to be able to help you.  [I do have
> an Android tablet - and you have no idea of how many people
> have posted to its support forum about problems setting up
> good 3G service.]
> 

NetworkManager handles the 3g connections just fine though
modem-manager, no need to add any other software.

Jerry




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Re: SD Card bug? XO 1.75 (Repeat post)

[RJV]

Mikus, I am sorry, too, that you found it SO important to answer an email
that is not to your wavelength. Btw, your email looks like human spam to me
so marking your email id for spam and is so offensive in tone that I have a
good mind to withdraw from this list. Did I forget to mention that I did
not read more than three lines of your enail.

Do not reply to this email.

For the rest in this list, this email from Mikus is far too spiteful in
tone for anyone to ignore. Will somebody care to explain unless of course
if the email is okay as per the question.

Thanks for any coherent reply.

Jv


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs  wrote:

> On 10/07/2012 10:44 PM, RJV wrote:
>
>> why I posted this is to know whether one
>> reflashes all the time or is there a more graceful way of getting XO back
>> on Sugar through Linux?
>>
>
> I'm sorry - you and I are on completely different wavelengths.
>
> You use phrases that mean something to you, but have NO significance
> whatsoever to me.  For instance "back on Sugar through Linux":
>
> If one is in Sugar, there is the capability to get into GNOME by doing:
> left-click_on_XO-image -> My Settings -> Switch desktop -> Switch to Gnome
> -> Restart now ... and one is presented with the GNOME desktop. The
> principal use I myself see in Gnome is if the user wants to manage multiple
> windows, or is uncomfortable with Sugar-style full screen.
>
> I myself do NOT use GNOME if I can help it -- I find I can do almost
> everything I need from the 'Terminal Activity' screen in Sugar.
> [By the way, if you do not want the XO to suspend itself, you can go to My
> Settings -> Power, and unmark all the checkboxes in that panel.].
>
> If one is in the GNOME environment, there is the capability to get into
> Sugar by doing: Applications -> System Tools -> Switch to Sugar -> OK ...
> and one is presented with the Sugar Home View screen.
>
>
> IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CLARITY THE WAY YOU ARE USING THE WORD 'LINUX'.
>
> The XO runs Linux all the time, whether that XO happens to be in the Sugar
> environment or happens to be in the GNOME environment.  Please use the word
> 'Linux' only when you mean a desktop system (or equivalent) running a Linux
> distribution (such as Ubuntu).  Please use the word 'Windows' when you mean
> a desktop system running Windows.  Please use the word 'Sugar' only when
> you mean an XO running in an Sugar environment.  Please use the term
> 'Sugar-on-non_XO' when you mean Sugar running on any kind of hardware other
> than an XO.  Please use the word 'GNOME' when you mean an XO running in an
> 'GNOME' environment.  Please use the term 'GNOME-on-non_XO' when you mean
> GNOME running on any kind of hardware other than an XO.
>
>
> IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CLARITY THE WAY YOU ARE USING THE WORD 'FLASH'.
>
> In the context of an XO:  Please use the word 'flash' when you mean using
> the OFW 'flash' command to replace the .rom firmware inside an XO.  Please
> use the term 'install the build' when you mean the process of replacing (or
> putting) the operating system software inside an XO. Please avoid the word
> 'reflash' - it's sloppy; instead please use the word 'reinstall' and
> mention what it is you are reinstalling (e.g., 'reinstall the build' if you
> mean replacing the operating system in the XO by a "virgin" copy).
>
>
> In the context of 'reinstalling' -- there is no NEED to "reinstall" the
> operating system in the XO unless the one you already have is corrupted (or
> you have obtained access to a better/newer version).
>
>
> DID I FORGET WHICH OS BUILD YOU HAVE INSTALLED?
>
>
>
>  I need to run a 3G (Airtel - Indian telecom provider) and may need
>> some help on this.
>>
>
> Given the kind of questions you are asking, I would __STRONGLY ADVISE__
> you NOT to try using an XO for this purpose:
>
> The only way an XO can talk directly to 3G is with a "dongle".  But the
> "dongle" will need software.  [You can only _hope_ that wvdial.rpm is the
> only significant item of software you would need to pick up yourself.]
>  That software will almost certainly require 'dependencies' to be installed
> in the operating system - will they be available?  And will all the needed
> software run on an XO?  Is the wvdial.rpm that you downloaded even meant
> for the ARM architecture?  [Remember that (non-Android) ARM-CPU operating
> systems have only recently arrived for general distribution.]
>
> There may also be difficulties tying in the Network Management in an XO
> with a connection through 3G.  [I myself am currently using an ethernet
> (wired) path to the internet from my XO-1.75 - but that takes advantage of
> me having four years of experience using ethernet with XOs - others might
> encounter hurdles.]
>
> In any case, I myself am not an user of 3G (i.e., cellular data).  So I do
> not expect to be able to help you.  [I do have an Android tablet - and you
> have no idea of how many people have posted to its support forum about
> problems setting up

Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Chris Leonard  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Gary Martin  
> wrote:
>
>>> Are the layouts each in a distinct set of files? If so we could possibly 
>>> split out layouts to standalone packages to make it easy to add extras at a 
>>> later date.
>>
>> Yes the language layouts are a distinct set of XML files in one directory. 
>> They can be edited live on running system, so it's not like they really need 
>> to be part of maliit-plugins build compilation.
>
> If the OLPC OS build creators (e.g. dsd) do not plan to include all of
> these files in "stock" releases, then we should definitely look at
> incorporating them into language packs installs.

At the moment all layouts are packaged as part of the maliit-plugins package

> Just like with L10n MO files there may be good reasons (mostly size in
> image) not to include them all, but in a such a case  we definitely
> want to make them easy to find and easy to install, without much
> technical knowledge, or even knowledge that they even exist.

The layouts are xml files and hence very small is size so the easiest
way to install them would be to have them there by default.

My question to Gary about the layouts was more about how hard it would
be to package them up separately so it's easy to add new layouts post
release of a release. It's quicker to add a single package with a
single layout than having to QA an entire release again.

> With a little tweaking of the language pack generating script,
>
> http://git.sugarlabs.org/pootle-helpers/mainline/trees/master/langpackgen
>
> the language packs could serve that purpose.

I'm sure there's a number of ways to skin that cat :-)

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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Chris Leonard]

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Gary Martin  wrote:

>> Are the layouts each in a distinct set of files? If so we could possibly 
>> split out layouts to standalone packages to make it easy to add extras at a 
>> later date.
>
> Yes the language layouts are a distinct set of XML files in one directory. 
> They can be edited live on running system, so it's not like they really need 
> to be part of maliit-plugins build compilation.

If the OLPC OS build creators (e.g. dsd) do not plan to include all of
these files in "stock" releases, then we should definitely look at
incorporating them into language packs installs.

Just like with L10n MO files there may be good reasons (mostly size in
image) not to include them all, but in a such a case  we definitely
want to make them easy to find and easy to install, without much
technical knowledge, or even knowledge that they even exist.

With a little tweaking of the language pack generating script,

http://git.sugarlabs.org/pootle-helpers/mainline/trees/master/langpackgen

the language packs could serve that purpose.

cjl
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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

[Gary Martin]

Hi Peter,

On 8 Oct 2012, at 07:02, Peter Robinson  wrote:

> 
> On 8 Oct 2012 00:41, "Gary Martin"  wrote:
> >
> > On 7 Oct 2012, at 23:56, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 7 Oct 2012 23:17, "Martin Langhoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > #12082  Maliit on-screen keyboard
> > > >
> > > > Yay!!! Is the evdev trickery all hooked up? Does ebook mode DTRT?
> > >
> > > Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now
> >
> > Not quite all the layouts, but the vast majority are done in both landscape 
> > and portrait. I have Türkçe, Українська, Việt, and 1 usable (out of 3 due 
> > to the need of the others for a proprietary glyph composition engine) 
> > Chinese keyboards still to do, and some general bug fixes on several 
> > extended keys I spotted while testing. Expect an updated set of similar 
> > patches before build lockdown. There is also still the hanging question 
> > with regard for the need for additional keyboards for existing or potential 
> > deployments. Armenia has been raised as one possible extra, but not yet 
> > confirmed. Perhaps once XO-4's start to land and folks play with the OSK 
> > we'll see some formal requests.
> >
> 
> Are the layouts each in a distinct set of files? If so we could possibly 
> split out layouts to standalone packages to make it easy to add extras at a 
> later date.

Yes the language layouts are a distinct set of XML files in one directory. They 
can be edited live on running system, so it's not like they really need to be 
part of maliit-plugins build compilation.

Regards,
--Gary

> Peter
> 
> > Regards,
> > --Gary
> >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > m
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> > > >  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Deepak Muddha]

Issues/tickets raised for all the mentioned bugs/enhancements.

On 6 October 2012 10:17, Tom Parker  wrote:

> Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
> Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom
> Testing build 44 11.3.1-au
>
> XO-1.75:
> Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010!
> Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41
> Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2414#change-30101

> Google docs complains browser is out of date.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2415

> Can create google docs unlike latest Browse
>


> Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse
> It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia!
> Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
> one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version
> by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
> (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
> something that won’t actually work with it?
>
> Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but
> camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart
> it. This only happened once.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2409

> Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2410

>
> On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The
> drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot
> this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2411

>
> Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be
> removed if it can’t be fixed.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2412

>
> Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the
> canvas before it does anything.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2413

>
> XO-1.5 Ivy
> maze works
> ruler works
> speak works
> paint works
> memorize works
> crazy touchpad/pointer?
> write
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>

Thanks & Regards


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Re: Xo1.5 crashes

[Richard A. Smith]

On 10/07/2012 10:21 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:


IIRC, Richard warned about connecting an XO's USB socket to any USB
device where that devices's USB socket can emit power (that sets up a
 condition where a non-XO device can try to send power to the XO --
which is a no_no).


The details are fuzzy but in Kevin's case I believe he was trying to use
a external CDROM that drew a lot of juice tying to spin up and fail.  To
compensate he was connecting one of those rechargeable batteries with a
5V USB output via a Y cable.  So now you have 2 power sources fighting
it out on the USB bus and the XO-1.5 would lose.


So when i plug one usb device into the xo be it an ipod or a cell
phone while running on battery the screen goes white and the laptop
reboots. It works fine when plugged in charging though. I just wanted
to let you all know what im experiencing. I believe the devices are
drawing too much current from the laptop and forcing a reboot. It
doesnt matter which usb port i plug it into.


What production rev model is your 1.5?  Did you get it from the 
developer program?  I have a vague recollection that some of our earlier 
runs of 1.5 had a USB issue like that.


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