13.1.0 development build 18 released
Hi, A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os18 Changes: XO-4 kernel fixes: - Camera works again (#12380) - DCON and pretty boot works again (#12378), no need to boot in verbose mode like in build 17 - Power button works again (#12379) - USB unreliability should be fixed (#12158) Fixed bitfrost problem in activation initramfs (#12376) GNOME can be launched on XO-1.75/XO-4 again without error (#12381) The Sugar welcome screen activates again on first boot. sugar activity updater fixes: - UI no longer hangs strangely (#12272) - Select/deselect of specific updates works again (SL#4274) - Activity group URLs can be modified again (SL#4275) sugar-artwork-0.98.1: - Get back margin of toolbuttons (SL#3936) - Style GtkProgressBar (SL#4249) sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.1 - Popdown the palette if an item in the content box gets activated (SL#4191, SL#4253) - TrayIcon: get the black background and outline for palette popup (SL#4089) - RadioToolButton: draw the outline properly (SL#3936) - CanvasIcon: do not keep it ACTIVE when right-click twice (SL#4224) sugar-0.98.1 - Adapt to PaletteMenu changes for popdown on item activation (SL#4191, SL#4253) - Fix XO-4 all-black screenshots (SL#4104) - Journal details: make buddies appear (SL#4282) Paint-53 - Fix Opacity does change while drawing (SL#4237) - Fix Paint cut/paste duplicates first pasted item in top-left corner. (SL#4250) Thanks for any testing and feedback! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Hi, We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: 1. Sugar as an application on Android. 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app store? Are there any licensing issues? On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
I think Sugar could be something like an alternative gui shell similar cynogen http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: 1. Sugar as an application on Android. 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app store? Are there any licensing issues? On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
On 2012-12-11, at 15:41, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: The Sugar welcome screen activates again on first boot. Not for me ... or maybe it's a different problem. Tried to olpc-update my new XO-4 (with XOrduino and XOstick boards! Yay!) from whatever came pre-installed. After restarting it flashed a new firmware (twice? didn't pay too much attention) and proceded to boot, blinking circle od dots, but that stopped at some point and it didn't do anything visible anymore. No mouse/keyboard/VT switching, so had to power-cycle. On second boot it was fine though, it asked for activity updates, which worked fine. I tried sound in Etoys and Scratch, which didn't work but just made a screetching noise (after turning up the volume). But Record does the same, and froze while trying to play back a recorded video, so maybe it's a wider problem. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Hi Rajiv, your plan seems to have good goals, but is missing some understanding of what you can and cannot do. You cannot run Sugar (a Python-based window manager, based on traditional Linux sw stack) on the Android stack. Way too different. To reach your goals, however, you could try something like... - identify what good Android Apps exist that match Sugar Activities, those you don' t have to port, just replace :-) (ie: don't port Record!) - those Sugar Activities that don't have an Android counterpart, reimplement them as Android apps - Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell - Implement some of the key services that make Sugar special: ad-hoc auto-networking, collaboration stack, the Journal. The most important, IMO, is the Journal, as Android's handling of my files is extremely poor. All these services will need integration into the shell and apps. Alternatively, you can wait for Android/Linux stack convergence projects (see Jolla / Sailfish) to mature. Maybe in a year or two there are ways to run Sugar inside Android or Android Apps on a Linux stack. hth, m On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: 1. Sugar as an application on Android. 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app store? Are there any licensing issues? On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? -- Regards, Ravichandran J.V. http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name Rajiv from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, mess up the other person's name. Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. cheers, martin On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name Rajiv from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell -- Regards, Ravichandran J.V. http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
Hi all, SKU 296 hand written tag attached when received states C2 olpc-update from pre-installed build 15, rebooted on AC firmware update skipped. Checked battery level in frame 28% was displayed. Offered activity update, was able to de-select activities. Let XO charge for a bit rebooted, firmware updated to Q7B08. Wireless firmware info not available in about my computer but wireless works. What's the battery threshold set at in OFW? Looks to be around 30% Didn't connect to ejabberd with a pre-existing registration on the schoolserver that was working pre-upgrade. Didn't expect the welcome activity to appear as this was olpc-update'd. Jerry On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 14:41 +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os18 Changes: XO-4 kernel fixes: - Camera works again (#12380) - DCON and pretty boot works again (#12378), no need to boot in verbose mode like in build 17 - Power button works again (#12379) - USB unreliability should be fixed (#12158) Fixed bitfrost problem in activation initramfs (#12376) GNOME can be launched on XO-1.75/XO-4 again without error (#12381) The Sugar welcome screen activates again on first boot. sugar activity updater fixes: - UI no longer hangs strangely (#12272) - Select/deselect of specific updates works again (SL#4274) - Activity group URLs can be modified again (SL#4275) sugar-artwork-0.98.1: - Get back margin of toolbuttons (SL#3936) - Style GtkProgressBar (SL#4249) sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.1 - Popdown the palette if an item in the content box gets activated (SL#4191, SL#4253) - TrayIcon: get the black background and outline for palette popup (SL#4089) - RadioToolButton: draw the outline properly (SL#3936) - CanvasIcon: do not keep it ACTIVE when right-click twice (SL#4224) sugar-0.98.1 - Adapt to PaletteMenu changes for popdown on item activation (SL#4191, SL#4253) - Fix XO-4 all-black screenshots (SL#4104) - Journal details: make buddies appear (SL#4282) Paint-53 - Fix Opacity does change while drawing (SL#4237) - Fix Paint cut/paste duplicates first pasted item in top-left corner. (SL#4250) Thanks for any testing and feedback! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 04:58:11PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: Hi all, SKU 296 hand written tag attached when received states C2 olpc-update from pre-installed build 15, rebooted on AC firmware update skipped. Checked battery level in frame 28% was displayed. Offered activity update, was able to de-select activities. Let XO charge for a bit rebooted, firmware updated to Q7B08. Wireless firmware info not available in about my computer but wireless works. What's the battery threshold set at in OFW? Looks to be around 30% No. There is no such threshold in Open Firmware. Open Firmware does not check the state of charge when assessing whether there is enough power for reflashing firmware. Instead, Open Firmware relies on the battery status flags provided by the embedded controller: - external power must be present, - a battery must be present, - the battery low status bit must be cleared. Therefore on your SKU296 the battery low status bit must have been set. Can you provide power logs from the duration of the olpc-update? You can find further information in the embedded controller source, for the bit name bat_low http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/rsmith/ec-cl4-mmp3/tree/battery.c Didn't connect to ejabberd with a pre-existing registration on the schoolserver that was working pre-upgrade. Didn't expect the welcome activity to appear as this was olpc-update'd. Jerry On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 14:41 +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os18 Changes: XO-4 kernel fixes: - Camera works again (#12380) - DCON and pretty boot works again (#12378), no need to boot in verbose mode like in build 17 - Power button works again (#12379) - USB unreliability should be fixed (#12158) Fixed bitfrost problem in activation initramfs (#12376) GNOME can be launched on XO-1.75/XO-4 again without error (#12381) The Sugar welcome screen activates again on first boot. sugar activity updater fixes: - UI no longer hangs strangely (#12272) - Select/deselect of specific updates works again (SL#4274) - Activity group URLs can be modified again (SL#4275) sugar-artwork-0.98.1: - Get back margin of toolbuttons (SL#3936) - Style GtkProgressBar (SL#4249) sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.1 - Popdown the palette if an item in the content box gets activated (SL#4191, SL#4253) - TrayIcon: get the black background and outline for palette popup (SL#4089) - RadioToolButton: draw the outline properly (SL#3936) - CanvasIcon: do not keep it ACTIVE when right-click twice (SL#4224) sugar-0.98.1 - Adapt to PaletteMenu changes for popdown on item activation (SL#4191, SL#4253) - Fix XO-4 all-black screenshots (SL#4104) - Journal details: make buddies appear (SL#4282) Paint-53 - Fix Opacity does change while drawing (SL#4237) - Fix Paint cut/paste duplicates first pasted item in top-left corner. (SL#4250) Thanks for any testing and feedback! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
My experience is that Speak and TamTam work, but Record, Scratch, and eToys do not. I suspect this is either an interface approach or a sampling rate issue. If I try to sample at the wrong rates with arecord aplay I get no audio back at all. Attempting to change the dmix rate from 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz does not solve the problem. On XO-1.75 I believe we resorted to software resampling; I do not know if this is in place for XO-4 or not. Something also seems to be writing over the Mic Gain state as I found it at zero once although it was about a third of the way up when checked earlier in the same boot cycle. Personally I like bumping it up pretty high. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 2012-12-11, at 15:41, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: The Sugar welcome screen activates again on first boot. Not for me ... or maybe it's a different problem. Tried to olpc-update my new XO-4 (with XOrduino and XOstick boards! Yay!) from whatever came pre-installed. After restarting it flashed a new firmware (twice? didn't pay too much attention) and proceded to boot, blinking circle od dots, but that stopped at some point and it didn't do anything visible anymore. No mouse/keyboard/VT switching, so had to power-cycle. On second boot it was fine though, it asked for activity updates, which worked fine. I tried sound in Etoys and Scratch, which didn't work but just made a screetching noise (after turning up the volume). But Record does the same, and froze while trying to play back a recorded video, so maybe it's a wider problem. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:42:00PM -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: My experience is that OFW warns if no external power is present. But it seems to be silent on the main display about the low battery reflash failure condition unless you attempt to reflash firmware from the ok prompt, or are not in the TS=SHIP (and therefore in a verbose boot) state. Yes. In normal boot, only the graphic symbols are used; a lightning bolt, a battery, and a yellow unhappy face. These can be reproduced using the command: ok show-no-power No further explanation is given. I presume that is what you mean by silent. I think that is sufficient. In verbose boot, an explanation is also provided. May include words like: Unsafe to update firmware now - No external power No battery Battery low -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:18:04AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 04:58:11PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: olpc-update from pre-installed build 15, rebooted on AC firmware update skipped. Checked battery level in frame 28% was displayed. ... ... Instead, Open Firmware relies on the battery status flags provided by the embedded controller: ... - the battery low status bit must be cleared. Therefore on your SKU296 the battery low status bit must have been set. Can you provide power logs from the duration of the olpc-update? Thanks for the logs off-list, I've reviewed them. You hit a known problem that has since been fixed. The battery low status bit was not necessarily cleared despite charging commencement. This was fixed in http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/rsmith/ec-cl4-mmp3/commit/?id=f3a823876d2084fd0b22e79f75bfc05f32b7626d which was between EC 0.3.04 and EC 0.3.05. Q7B07 contained the former, and Q7B08 contained the latter. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 18 released
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 04:58:11PM -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: Wireless firmware info not available in about my computer but wireless works. New wireless module, 802.11n 5 GHz capable, single antenna, but driver does not report firmware version via ethtool -i, which is what about my computer uses ... raised as #12388. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell This looks like the nearest to what I hope to achieve - the same experience of the XO on a hand-held device especially the Ad-Hoc networking. Jv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, mess up the other person's name. Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. cheers, martin On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name Rajiv from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell -- Regards, Ravichandran J.V. http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
