Re: Using a wifi dongle on an XO-1(.5) -- another dongle

2014-05-01 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:56:32PM -0400, Nathan C. Riddle wrote:
 Found another Ralink device that works: RT5370.   [...]
 Now, is there a device based on Ralink chips to replace the internal
 Libertas wireless module ? :)

No, certainly not.

libertas kernel driver is used for the Marvell 88W8388 and 88W8686
based wireless modules.

The XO-1 module, based on the 88W8388 chip, is not removable, and
no other module is compatible.

The XO-1.5, XO-1.75, and XO-4 modules, the 88W8686, are removable, but
the only source of replacements is OLPC spare parts, and minimum order
quantities make this impractical for you.

And, if I'm reading the schematics right, there's also two voltage
variants, so the modules for XO-1.5 (3.3V) can't be swapped with the
modules for XO-1.75 and XO-4 (1.8V).

The XO-1.5, XO-1.75, and XO-4 main board wireless socket is a
Mini-PCIe connector, but the electrical interface is custom, and
carries SDIO, wireless indicator LED, and wakeup signals, so any
new module must be custom made for the hardware.

You might break open a USB wireless adapter, attach to the USB
connecting points at a socket, and glue it into the laptop in the
space vacated by the original module.

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Re: Using a wifi dongle on an XO-1(.5) -- another dongle

2014-05-01 Thread John Watlington

On May 1, 2014, at 6:32 PM, James Cameron wrote:

 On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:56:32PM -0400, Nathan C. Riddle wrote:
 Found another Ralink device that works: RT5370.   [...]
 Now, is there a device based on Ralink chips to replace the internal
 Libertas wireless module ? :)
 
 No, certainly not.
 ...
 And, if I'm reading the schematics right, there's also two voltage
 variants, so the modules for XO-1.5 (3.3V) can't be swapped with the
 modules for XO-1.75 and XO-4 (1.8V).

Only cards built before we added the ESD protection (very early in
production) are limited to operation at +3.3V.   Most of the cards used
in XO-1.5 operate at either +3.3V or +1.8V, and are identical to the
88W8686 modules were used for XO-1.75 and XO-4.

 The XO-1.5, XO-1.75, and XO-4 main board wireless socket is a
 Mini-PCIe connector, but the electrical interface is custom, and
 carries SDIO, wireless indicator LED, and wakeup signals, so any
 new module must be custom made for the hardware.

The miniPCIe form factor is frequently used for USB-based wireless cards as
well, and XO laptops do provide USB signals at the appropriate pins although
the shipped wireless card doesn't use it.
Power, ground, and some auxiliary signals use standard pins.
But we did reuse the actual PCIe signal pins to provide the SD interface
so you might need to cut some wires to avoid conflict.
The pinout is available at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/d/d9/XO_4_Pinouts.pdf

Cheers,
wad

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Re: Using a wifi dongle on an XO-1(.5) -- another dongle

2014-05-01 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 07:37:10PM -0400, John Watlington wrote:
 
 On May 1, 2014, at 6:32 PM, James Cameron wrote:
 
  On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 03:56:32PM -0400, Nathan C. Riddle wrote:
  Found another Ralink device that works: RT5370.   [...]
  Now, is there a device based on Ralink chips to replace the internal
  Libertas wireless module ? :)
  
  No, certainly not.
  ...
  And, if I'm reading the schematics right, there's also two voltage
  variants, so the modules for XO-1.5 (3.3V) can't be swapped with the
  modules for XO-1.75 and XO-4 (1.8V).
 
 Only cards built before we added the ESD protection (very early in
 production) are limited to operation at +3.3V.   Most of the cards used
 in XO-1.5 operate at either +3.3V or +1.8V, and are identical to the
 88W8686 modules were used for XO-1.75 and XO-4.

Thanks.

  The XO-1.5, XO-1.75, and XO-4 main board wireless socket is a
  Mini-PCIe connector, but the electrical interface is custom, and
  carries SDIO, wireless indicator LED, and wakeup signals, so any
  new module must be custom made for the hardware.
 
 The miniPCIe form factor is frequently used for USB-based wireless cards as
 well, and XO laptops do provide USB signals at the appropriate pins although
 the shipped wireless card doesn't use it.

I couldn't prove they were connected, on the XO-1.5 schematic (Rev M),
as the signal name didn't appear elsewhere.

They are tied to the USB hub on XO-1.75 and XO-4.

 Power, ground, and some auxiliary signals use standard pins.
 But we did reuse the actual PCIe signal pins to provide the SD interface
 so you might need to cut some wires to avoid conflict.
 The pinout is available at:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/images/d/d9/XO_4_Pinouts.pdf

Thanks.

Are you aware of any replacement USB cards that have been made to work?

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Re: Using a wifi dongle on an XO-1(.5) -- another dongle

2014-05-01 Thread John Watlington

On May 1, 2014, at 9:26 PM, James Cameron wrote:

 The miniPCIe form factor is frequently used for USB-based wireless cards as
 well, and XO laptops do provide USB signals at the appropriate pins although
 the shipped wireless card doesn't use it.
 
 I couldn't prove they were connected, on the XO-1.5 schematic (Rev M),
 as the signal name didn't appear elsewhere.

On XO-1.5 it is connected to the VX855 USB port 5 (page 15).

 They are tied to the USB hub on XO-1.75 and XO-4.
...
 Are you aware of any replacement USB cards that have been made to work?


Nope.

wad

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Re: Using a wifi dongle on an XO-1(.5) -- another dongle

2014-05-01 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:39:36PM -0400, John Watlington wrote:
 On May 1, 2014, at 9:26 PM, James Cameron wrote:
  I couldn't prove they were connected, on the XO-1.5 schematic (Rev M),
  as the signal name didn't appear elsewhere.
 
 On XO-1.5 it is connected to the VX855 USB port 5 (page 15).

Thanks.  My PDF reader didn't Find it, turns out to be
WspaceL_USBP5 on page 15, and WL_USBP5 on page 24.

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Re: [Server-devel] server and IAB

2014-05-01 Thread George Hunt
The fact that the screen comes up on a client XO suggests that the server
is configured correctly.

Build 852 is a very old build. I looked in sugarlabs.org activities browse,
to see if there were any newer Browse versions that work with sugar .84.
 It does not look to be the case.

I suggest loading 13.2.0 on one XO, and see if that works. see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.0

Or in Haiti, we solidified around 12.1.0, because the move to gtk version 3
in 13.2.0 seemed to add overhead, and slow everything down (see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/HaitiOS)


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Martiny JeanBaptiste 
martiny.jeanbapti...@dc.edu wrote:

 Hi Adam,

 We cannot play any of the Khan Academy video of the IIAB from an XO. The
 screen comes up but it never plays. The videos play without any issues on
 the schoolserver. Does the XO need a special plugin installed. Specs on the
 XO being used Build: 852 Sugar: 0.84.16.



 Thank you,

 Martiny Jean Baptiste

 IT Support

 Dominican College of Blauvelt

 470 Western Highway

 Orangeburg, NY 10962

 Office: (845) 848-4050

 Mobile: (845) 222-4550

 Email: martiny.jeanbapti...@dc.edu



 *From:* Joanne Clemente
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 01, 2014 2:24 PM
 *To:* Martiny JeanBaptiste
 *Subject:* FW: server and IAB







 Joanne Clemente, Ed. D.

 Director of Online Learning

 Center for Adult Student Education (CASE):

 Faculty Trainer, Blackboard/Moodle Administrator, MapWorks

 Dominican College

 470 Western Highway

 Orangeburg, NY 10962

 845.848.4017

 [image: still-logo-smaller]



 *It is better to be good than to be right.*



 *From:* hotmail_e5f197d31ca4c...@live.com [
 mailto:hotmail_e5f197d31ca4c...@live.comhotmail_e5f197d31ca4c...@live.com]
 *On Behalf Of *Tim Moody
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 01, 2014 1:47 AM
 *To:* Joanne Clemente; Server-Devel@Lists. Org
 *Subject:* RE: server and IAB



 It sounds like the server is working, but we need more information about
 how the xos connect and are configured.



 First, from a browser on the xo does http://schoolserver.lan return the
 portal screen?



 If not, I suggest that Martiny have a look at
 https://github.com/XSCE/xsce/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.rst to understand
 what sorts of networking are supported.



 Also, we need to know what version of the OS is on the xos.
 --

 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:31:16 -0400
 Subject: Fwd: server and IAB
 From: h...@unleashkids.org
 To: joanne.cleme...@dc.edu
 CC: curtathomp...@gmail.com; t...@timmoody.com; georgejh...@gmail.com

 Joanne,
 I am offline in Nepal and many of us are travelling this week. Plz have
 Martiny write the exact problem/configuration
 to public mailing list server-devel@lists.laptop.org
 Thanks!

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Joanne Clemente joanne.cleme...@dc.edu
 Date: May 1, 2014 3:04 AM
 Subject: server and IAB
 To: h...@laptop.org h...@laptop.org

 Hi, Adam

 We were finally able to get the IAB to work with the schoolserver. We can
 view the videos on the server but cannot see anything from the XO1 or the
 XO1.5 from either the browser or the gnome side.

 Is there something we need to install on them?

 Thanks,

 Joanne



 Joanne Clemente, Ed. D.

 Director of Online Learning

 Center for Adult Student Education (CASE):

 Faculty Trainer, Blackboard/Moodle Administrator, MapWorks

 Dominican College

 470 Western Highway

 Orangeburg, NY 10962

 845.848.4017

 [image: still-logo-smaller]



 *It is better to be good than to be right.*



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