Re: Compiling thee kernel

[Ajay Garg]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> ajay wrote:
>  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:
>  >
>  > > ajay wrote:
>  > >  > Hi James.
>  > >  > Thanks a ton for the reply 
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Here are the steps I followed on my x86-based Dell laptop::
>  > >  >
>  > >  > a)
>  > >  > "cd ~"
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > b)
>  > >  > "git clone git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-kernel"
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > c)
>  > >  > "cd olpc-kernel"
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > > you left out:
>  > > cp arch/x86/configs/xo_1.5_defconfig .config
>  > > make oldconfig
>  > >
>  >
>  > Ohh ok..
>
> oops.  you're probably still on master.  there's another missing step:
> git checkout x86-3.3
>

That did it !!!
(
 Also, sorry and thanks to James, since the "branch" was the first thing he
asked
).

I could compile the kernel by replacing the config-file, and also managed
to break it after haphazardly editing "drivers/media/video/ov7670.c" :)

Thanks again James and Paul !!!


> paul
>
>  >
>  > Currently, I do not see any such file as
>  arch/x86/configs/xo_1.5_defconfig
>  > :-\
>  > Doing "ls -l arch/x86/configs gives me" ::
>  >
>  > [ajay@localhost olpc-kernel]$ ls -l arch/x86/configs/
>  > total 16
>  > -rw-rw-r--. 1 ajay ajay 7511 Jun  9 05:37 i386_defconfig
>  > -rw-rw-r--. 1 ajay ajay 7528 Jun  9 05:37 x86_64_defconfig
>  >
>  >
>  > Paul,
>  >
>  > a)
>  > Are there some additional steps to generate the config file for XO-1.5?
>  >
>  > b)
>  > Secondly, is the "marvell" module generatable only on the XO-1.5? As
> far as
>  > I know, the OmniVersion sensor works since the earliest series of
> laptops?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > > paul
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > d)
>  > >  > "make"
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > e)
>  > >  > Wait many minutes (if not hours).
>  > >  > Everything runs to completion.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > f)
>  > >  > Haphazardly edit "drivers/media/video/ov7670.c".
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > g)
>  > >  > Now, run "make" again.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Because of the haphazard editing of the file in step f), the build
>  > > should
>  > >  > break.
>  > >  > However, it doesn't, and it runs to completion as before.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > h)
>  > >  > At any time, there is no object file (.o) or kernel-object (.ko)
> file
>  > >  > whatsoever in the directory "drivers/media/video/marvell-ccic".
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > i)
>  > >  > Because of observation of step h), and the fact that "ov7670.h" is
> used
>  > > in
>  > >  > the file "drivers/media/video/marvell-ccic/mcam-core.c",
>  > >  > I doubt if the "marvell" module is being compiled at all.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > j)
>  > >  > Moreover, the "I2C VS SMBus" has stemmed into my imagination,
> looking at
>  > >  > the file "drivers/media/video/Kconfig" :)
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Note that following the steps f) and g) after haphazardly editing a
>  > >  > different file like "drivers/media/video/tvaudio.c" DOES break the
>  > > build.
>  > >  > That means that I am at least following the right ways to break the
>  > > build :P
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > James,
>  > >  > please let me know if you require any more info.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Thanks again for the help !!
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM, James Cameron 
>  > > wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > G'day Ajay,
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > I've never heard of such a restriction.  Can you tell us the
> name of
>  > >  > > the branch you compiled, and what method you used?  Perhaps
> share the
>  > >  > > output?
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > --
>  > >  > > James Cameron
>  > >  > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>  > >  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > --
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>  > >  >
>  > >  > Ajay Garg
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Re: Compiling thee kernel

[Ajay Garg]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> ajay wrote:
>  > Hi James.
>  > Thanks a ton for the reply 
>  >
>  > Here are the steps I followed on my x86-based Dell laptop::
>  >
>  > a)
>  > "cd ~"
>  >
>  >
>  > b)
>  > "git clone git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-kernel"
>  >
>  >
>  > c)
>  > "cd olpc-kernel"
>  >
>
> you left out:
> cp arch/x86/configs/xo_1.5_defconfig .config
> make oldconfig
>

Ohh ok..

Currently, I do not see any such file as  arch/x86/configs/xo_1.5_defconfig
:-\
Doing "ls -l arch/x86/configs gives me" ::

[ajay@localhost olpc-kernel]$ ls -l arch/x86/configs/
total 16
-rw-rw-r--. 1 ajay ajay 7511 Jun  9 05:37 i386_defconfig
-rw-rw-r--. 1 ajay ajay 7528 Jun  9 05:37 x86_64_defconfig


Paul,

a)
Are there some additional steps to generate the config file for XO-1.5?

b)
Secondly, is the "marvell" module generatable only on the XO-1.5? As far as
I know, the OmniVersion sensor works since the earliest series of laptops?



> paul
>
>  >
>  > d)
>  > "make"
>  >
>  >
>  > e)
>  > Wait many minutes (if not hours).
>  > Everything runs to completion.
>  >
>  >
>  > f)
>  > Haphazardly edit "drivers/media/video/ov7670.c".
>  >
>  >
>  > g)
>  > Now, run "make" again.
>  >
>  > Because of the haphazard editing of the file in step f), the build
> should
>  > break.
>  > However, it doesn't, and it runs to completion as before.
>  >
>  >
>  > h)
>  > At any time, there is no object file (.o) or kernel-object (.ko) file
>  > whatsoever in the directory "drivers/media/video/marvell-ccic".
>  >
>  >
>  > i)
>  > Because of observation of step h), and the fact that "ov7670.h" is used
> in
>  > the file "drivers/media/video/marvell-ccic/mcam-core.c",
>  > I doubt if the "marvell" module is being compiled at all.
>  >
>  >
>  > j)
>  > Moreover, the "I2C VS SMBus" has stemmed into my imagination, looking at
>  > the file "drivers/media/video/Kconfig" :)
>  >
>  >
>  > Note that following the steps f) and g) after haphazardly editing a
>  > different file like "drivers/media/video/tvaudio.c" DOES break the
> build.
>  > That means that I am at least following the right ways to break the
> build :P
>  >
>  >
>  > James,
>  > please let me know if you require any more info.
>  >
>  > Thanks again for the help !!
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM, James Cameron 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > > G'day Ajay,
>  > >
>  > > I've never heard of such a restriction.  Can you tell us the name of
>  > > the branch you compiled, and what method you used?  Perhaps share the
>  > > output?
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > James Cameron
>  > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Re: Compiling thee kernel

[Ajay Garg]

Hi James.
Thanks a ton for the reply 

Here are the steps I followed on my x86-based Dell laptop::

a)
"cd ~"


b)
"git clone git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-kernel"


c)
"cd olpc-kernel"


d)
"make"


e)
Wait many minutes (if not hours).
Everything runs to completion.


f)
Haphazardly edit "drivers/media/video/ov7670.c".


g)
Now, run "make" again.

Because of the haphazard editing of the file in step f), the build should
break.
However, it doesn't, and it runs to completion as before.


h)
At any time, there is no object file (.o) or kernel-object (.ko) file
whatsoever in the directory "drivers/media/video/marvell-ccic".


i)
Because of observation of step h), and the fact that "ov7670.h" is used in
the file "drivers/media/video/marvell-ccic/mcam-core.c",
I doubt if the "marvell" module is being compiled at all.


j)
Moreover, the "I2C VS SMBus" has stemmed into my imagination, looking at
the file "drivers/media/video/Kconfig" :)


Note that following the steps f) and g) after haphazardly editing a
different file like "drivers/media/video/tvaudio.c" DOES break the build.
That means that I am at least following the right ways to break the build :P


James,
please let me know if you require any more info.

Thanks again for the help !!


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM, James Cameron  wrote:

> G'day Ajay,
>
> I've never heard of such a restriction.  Can you tell us the name of
> the branch you compiled, and what method you used?  Perhaps share the
> output?
>
> --
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> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>



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Compiling thee kernel

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I cloned the kernel source-code from git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-kernel, and
ran "make" from my Dell x86-based laptop. The compilation ran to completion
successfully.


However, I noticed that "marvell" module (in drivers/media/video) was not
compiled. As a very vague guess, the reason seems to be that compiling this
module requires the presence of I2C network-bus, which does not seem to be
the case with the x86-based Dell laptop (which used SMBus).

Is my reasoning correct?
Is there a way at all to (cross-)compile the "marvell" module on the x86
Dell laptop?

I will be grateful for any pointers :)


(I am sorry if I sound too stupid.)


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Re: Transient-Issues with game-keys on XO-1.75

[Ajay Garg]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> ajay wrote:
>  > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Walter Bender  >wrote:
>  >
>  > > Sure it is not the hardware (misaligned buttons)?
>  > >
>  >
>  > Don't think so :-\
>  >
>  > The results are not consistent, irrespective of whether I press the
> key(s)
>  > gently, or with force.
>  > The only consistent thing is the correct working of the "square" key.
>  >
>  > Anyhow, the best test for this issue is only if more than one person
> does a
>  > quick test for this :)
>
> have you tried the keyboard diagnostic from OFW?
>
> ok test /keyboard
>

Same results, the block corresponding to the  "square" key is highlighted
everytime I press the key, while for the other three, the corresponding
blocks sometime highlight, and sometime not.


>
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Re: Transient-Issues with game-keys on XO-1.75

[Ajay Garg]

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Walter Bender wrote:

> Sure it is not the hardware (misaligned buttons)?
>

Don't think so :-\

The results are not consistent, irrespective of whether I press the key(s)
gently, or with force.
The only consistent thing is the correct working of the "square" key.

Anyhow, the best test for this issue is only if more than one person does a
quick test for this :)



Thanks for the reply.





>
> -walter
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have a XO-1.75, SKU198, OLPC-CL1 model.
>> The firmware is Q4D28.
>>
>> I seem to be having the game-keys (the "X", "tick", "square", "circle"
>> keys) that sometime work and sometime not.
>>
>> To have a more clear picture, I ran "showkey -a", and pressed the keys
>> numeral times. I observed that ::
>>
>>
>>   * the "square" key was always "grabbed".
>>   * rest of the 3 keys were sometimes grabbed, and sometimes not.
>>
>>
>> Has anyone else run into this issue? Could this be a firmware issue?
>> Or have my 3 out of 4 keys gone berserk at the same time? :P
>>
>>
>> Will be thankful for any opinions.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Walter Bender wrote:

> Sure it is not the hardware (misaligned buttons)?
>
> -walter
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have a XO-1.75, SKU198, OLPC-CL1 model.
>> The firmware is Q4D28.
>>
>> I seem to be having the game-keys (the "X", "tick", "square", "circle"
>> keys) that sometime work and sometime not.
>>
>> To have a more clear picture, I ran "showkey -a", and pressed the keys
>> numeral times. I observed that ::
>>
>>
>>   * the "square" key was always "grabbed".
>>   * rest of the 3 keys were sometimes grabbed, and sometimes not.
>>
>>
>> Has anyone else run into this issue? Could this be a firmware issue?
>> Or have my 3 out of 4 keys gone berserk at the same time? :P
>>
>>
>> Will be thankful for any opinions.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ajay Garg
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Transient-Issues with game-keys on XO-1.75

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I have a XO-1.75, SKU198, OLPC-CL1 model.
The firmware is Q4D28.

I seem to be having the game-keys (the "X", "tick", "square", "circle"
keys) that sometime work and sometime not.

To have a more clear picture, I ran "showkey -a", and pressed the keys
numeral times. I observed that ::


  * the "square" key was always "grabbed".
  * rest of the 3 keys were sometimes grabbed, and sometimes not.


Has anyone else run into this issue? Could this be a firmware issue?
Or have my 3 out of 4 keys gone berserk at the same time? :P


Will be thankful for any opinions.


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RAM in XO-1.75-models

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-1.75, the RAM in XO-1.75 is

   "DRAM memory: 512 MB or 1GB DDR3 dynamic
RAM<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM>;
"


Is there any specific criteria as to which models have 512 MB, and which
have 1 GB?
I, for example, have 512 MB of RAM, on a CL1 model.


Thanks in advance :)




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"ip4-address" and "ip6-address" fields in telepathy-salut/telepathy-gabble

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I downloaded source-rpms "for telepathy-salut-0.8.0", and
"telepathy-gabble-0.16.5", and after a quick grepping, realised that
"ip4-address/ip6-address" fields is passed on as one of the
buddy-properties in "telepathy-salut", but the same does not happen in
"telepathy-gabble".


Has there been any particular  reason for this? Or is it just that the need
was never felt till date :P


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Re: Query regarding "xorg-x11-drv-dove" package, on XO-4

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Martin for the quick reply.
Created the ticket at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12572

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Martin Langhoff  wrote:

> Thanks for the report! Jon Nettlelton is working on that particular
> driver, and there was a big overhaul that landed in OS29.
>
> Could you create a ticket on dev.laptop.org, against 13.1.0? This has
> nothing to do with Sugar itself...
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
> m
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > This is in relation to ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4438
> > Is there a way to know what are the changes  between version-8 (on XO-4
> > build 30) and version-7 (on XO-4 build 21) for xorg-x11-drv-dove-0.3.5?
> >
> >
> >
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Query regarding "xorg-x11-drv-dove" package, on XO-4

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Hi all.

This is in relation to ticket http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4438
Is there a way to know what are the changes  between version-8 (on XO-4
build 30) and version-7 (on XO-4 build 21) for xorg-x11-drv-dove-0.3.5?



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

Just wanted to know that whether the signals used in the "Write" activity

 'size-allocate',
 'request-clear-area',
 'unset-clear-area',

are usable anywhere else too?



I can see that  these signals are being listened by "class
DocumentView(Abi.Widget)"; however, the source of this signals is unknown
(or at least inconspicuous).

Is "Abi.Widget" the source of these signals? If yes, that would mean that
these signals cannot be used anywhere else on  a generic basis, right?


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> I agree with Gonzalo and Gary; this is just a makeshift solution for the
>> time-being, so that activities like Speak, Chat, Terminal are not rendered
>> completely unusable in ebook-mode.
>>
>>
> In my opinion, in this case, your hack, is exposed to the user, in a way
> that is worst than do not have a solution at all. In fact we spent a lot of
> time trying to do terminal work with osk (right now, if the cursor is
> behind the osk, the text area is resized and scrolled), but need more work.
> Be prepared to invest time to do it right, a quick hack will not be a good
> solution. Another problem using the terminal with the osk you will find, is
> the lack of auto-completion and a few keys useful in the terminal but not
> in normal use.
>
> May be Speak can be best solved, if you move the text input to the top of
> the canvas, like we did in Record activity. Chat is a little more
> difficult, you can move the input to the top, but the history will be
> hidden. (Btw, I don't know why all the chat interfaces show the history
> from bottom to top instead of top to bottom)
> Anyway, these are suggestions, should be better have a agreement with the
> Design Team, Gary & Manuq.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "Activating" a XO-1.5

[Ajay Garg]

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> Yes.. 24 hours.. That's a long wait ..
>


hehe.. I would have been wandering many days without you :)

Thanks a ton again !



>
> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> > Thanks a ton Ignacio
> > !!   :) :) :)
> >
> > Just one last query :
> > A link has been generated, which says
> >
> > "
> > Your developer key will be ready in 23 hours, 55 minutes.
> > Please check back later.
> > "
> >
> > So, I visit the same link after 24 hours, right?
> >
> >
> > Thanks  again !!
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> > wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/Articulos/PublishingImages/bot.JPG
> >>
> >> < key
> >>
> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Start the XO with the "<--" key (In the screen) pressed.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sorry Ignacio.
> >> > I am unable to understand.
> >> >
> >> > Which key is this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> >> > Thanks Ignacio :)
> >> >> > When I visit the link, it accepts the "Laptop-Serial" as
> >> "SHC",
> >> >> but
> >> >> > doesn't accept anything for  "Laptop-UUID".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Where can I find the laptop-UUID ? :P
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> No :P
> >> >> >> You can use: https://activation.laptop.org/devkey/post/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> >> >> > Hi Ignacio.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > But i need to boot the XO once at least, so as to obtain the
> >> >> >> > developer
> >> >> >> key?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> The xo is from Uruguay?
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> Maybe you need a developer key.. See:
> >> >> >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_key
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> >> >> >> > Hi all.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I have received a new XO-1.5.  When I  boot it, it shows
> >> >> "activation
> >> >> >> >> lease
> >> >> >> >> > not found".
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2, i tried the
> >> following
> >> >> >> steps
> >> >> >> >> ::
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > a)
> >> >> >> >> > Downloaded the signed-image
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd,
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > copied it to the root-directory on my USB-drive.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > b)
> >> >> >> >> > Downloaded the corresponding
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip
> >> >> >> >> ;
> >> >> >> >> > renamed it to "fs.zip", and copied it to the root directory
> of
> >> my
> >> >> >> >> > USB-drive.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > c)
> >> >> >> >> > Inserted

Re: [Sugar-devel] "Activating" a XO-1.5

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks a ton Ignacio
!!   :) :) :)

Just one last query :
A link has been generated, which says

"
Your developer key will be ready in 23 hours, 55 minutes.
Please check back later.
"

So, I visit the same link after 24 hours, right?


Thanks  again !!

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/Articulos/PublishingImages/bot.JPG
>
> < key
>
> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Start the XO with the "<--" key (In the screen) pressed.
> >>
> >
> > Sorry Ignacio.
> > I am unable to understand.
> >
> > Which key is this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> > Thanks Ignacio :)
> >> > When I visit the link, it accepts the "Laptop-Serial" as
> "SHC",
> >> but
> >> > doesn't accept anything for  "Laptop-UUID".
> >> >
> >> > Where can I find the laptop-UUID ? :P
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> No :P
> >> >> You can use: https://activation.laptop.org/devkey/post/
> >> >>
> >> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> >> > Hi Ignacio.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But i need to boot the XO once at least, so as to obtain the
> >> >> > developer
> >> >> key?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The xo is from Uruguay?
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> Maybe you need a developer key.. See:
> >> >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_key
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> >> >> > Hi all.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have received a new XO-1.5.  When I  boot it, it shows
> >> "activation
> >> >> >> lease
> >> >> >> > not found".
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2, i tried the
> following
> >> >> steps
> >> >> >> ::
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > a)
> >> >> >> > Downloaded the signed-image
> >> >> >> >
> >> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > copied it to the root-directory on my USB-drive.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > b)
> >> >> >> > Downloaded the corresponding
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip
> >> >> >> ;
> >> >> >> > renamed it to "fs.zip", and copied it to the root directory of
> my
> >> >> >> > USB-drive.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > c)
> >> >> >> > Inserted the USB-drive into the XO-1.5
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > d)
> >> >> >> > Powered on the  XO.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > e)
> >> >> >> > Immediately, pressed the 4 game-keys.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > f)
> >> >> >> > Upon seeing the message "Release the game keys  to continue",
> >> >> unpressed
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > keys.
> >> >> >> > Image installed successfully.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > g)
> >> >> >> > A firmware was flashed.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > h)
> >> >> >> > Removed the USB-drive.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > i)
> >> >> >> > Rebooted the XO.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > j)
> >> >> >> > Again, the message "Activation lease not found" was seen; the
> >> >> >> > image
> >> >> >> failed
> >> >> >> > to boot into sugar :-( :-(
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > What step have I done wrong?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Looking forward to some  help, as I need to get the XO-1.5
> >> >> >> > running
> >> >> >> > :-\
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Ajay Garg
> >> >> >> > Dextrose Developer
> >> >> >> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Saludos
> >> >> >> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> >> >> *CeibalJAM!*
> >> >> >> *Somos Azucar*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ajay Garg
> >> >> > Dextrose Developer
> >> >> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Saludos
> >> >> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> >> *CeibalJAM!*
> >> >> *Somos Azucar*
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Ajay Garg
> >> > Dextrose Developer
> >> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Saludos
> >> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> *CeibalJAM!*
> >> *Somos Azucar*
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ajay Garg
> > Dextrose Developer
> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Saludos
> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> *CeibalJAM!*
> *Somos Azucar*
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] "Activating" a XO-1.5

[Ajay Garg]

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> Start the XO with the "<--" key (In the screen) pressed.
>

Sorry Ignacio.
I am unable to understand.

Which key is this?




>
> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> > Thanks Ignacio :)
> > When I visit the link, it accepts the "Laptop-Serial" as "SHC",
> but
> > doesn't accept anything for  "Laptop-UUID".
> >
> > Where can I find the laptop-UUID ? :P
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> > wrote:
> >
> >> No :P
> >> You can use: https://activation.laptop.org/devkey/post/
> >>
> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> > Hi Ignacio.
> >> >
> >> > But i need to boot the XO once at least, so as to obtain the developer
> >> key?
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The xo is from Uruguay?
> >> >> ..
> >> >> Maybe you need a developer key.. See:
> >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_key
> >> >>
> >> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> >> > Hi all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have received a new XO-1.5.  When I  boot it, it shows
> "activation
> >> >> lease
> >> >> > not found".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2, i tried the following
> >> steps
> >> >> ::
> >> >> >
> >> >> > a)
> >> >> > Downloaded the signed-image
> >> >> >
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd,
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > copied it to the root-directory on my USB-drive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > b)
> >> >> > Downloaded the corresponding
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip
> >> >> ;
> >> >> > renamed it to "fs.zip", and copied it to the root directory of my
> >> >> > USB-drive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > c)
> >> >> > Inserted the USB-drive into the XO-1.5
> >> >> >
> >> >> > d)
> >> >> > Powered on the  XO.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > e)
> >> >> > Immediately, pressed the 4 game-keys.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > f)
> >> >> > Upon seeing the message "Release the game keys  to continue",
> >> unpressed
> >> >> the
> >> >> > keys.
> >> >> > Image installed successfully.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > g)
> >> >> > A firmware was flashed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > h)
> >> >> > Removed the USB-drive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i)
> >> >> > Rebooted the XO.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > j)
> >> >> > Again, the message "Activation lease not found" was seen; the image
> >> >> failed
> >> >> > to boot into sugar :-( :-(
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What step have I done wrong?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Looking forward to some  help, as I need to get the XO-1.5 running
> >> >> > :-\
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ajay Garg
> >> >> > Dextrose Developer
> >> >> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Saludos
> >> >> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> >> *CeibalJAM!*
> >> >> *Somos Azucar*
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Ajay Garg
> >> > Dextrose Developer
> >> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Saludos
> >> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> *CeibalJAM!*
> >> *Somos Azucar*
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ajay Garg
> > Dextrose Developer
> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Saludos
> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> *CeibalJAM!*
> *Somos Azucar*
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] "Activating" a XO-1.5

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Ignacio :)
When I visit the link, it accepts the "Laptop-Serial" as "SHC", but
doesn't accept anything for  "Laptop-UUID".

Where can I find the laptop-UUID ? :P

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> No :P
> You can use: https://activation.laptop.org/devkey/post/
>
> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> > Hi Ignacio.
> >
> > But i need to boot the XO once at least, so as to obtain the developer
> key?
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The xo is from Uruguay?
> >> ..
> >> Maybe you need a developer key.. See:
> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_key
> >>
> >> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> >> > Hi all.
> >> >
> >> > I have received a new XO-1.5.  When I  boot it, it shows "activation
> >> lease
> >> > not found".
> >> >
> >> > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2, i tried the following
> steps
> >> ::
> >> >
> >> > a)
> >> > Downloaded the signed-image
> >> > http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd,
> >> > and
> >> > copied it to the root-directory on my USB-drive.
> >> >
> >> > b)
> >> > Downloaded the corresponding
> >> >
> >>
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip
> >> ;
> >> > renamed it to "fs.zip", and copied it to the root directory of my
> >> > USB-drive.
> >> >
> >> > c)
> >> > Inserted the USB-drive into the XO-1.5
> >> >
> >> > d)
> >> > Powered on the  XO.
> >> >
> >> > e)
> >> > Immediately, pressed the 4 game-keys.
> >> >
> >> > f)
> >> > Upon seeing the message "Release the game keys  to continue",
> unpressed
> >> the
> >> > keys.
> >> > Image installed successfully.
> >> >
> >> > g)
> >> > A firmware was flashed.
> >> >
> >> > h)
> >> > Removed the USB-drive.
> >> >
> >> > i)
> >> > Rebooted the XO.
> >> >
> >> > j)
> >> > Again, the message "Activation lease not found" was seen; the image
> >> failed
> >> > to boot into sugar :-( :-(
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What step have I done wrong?
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward to some  help, as I need to get the XO-1.5 running :-\
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Ajay Garg
> >> > Dextrose Developer
> >> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Saludos
> >> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> >> *CeibalJAM!*
> >> *Somos Azucar*
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ajay Garg
> > Dextrose Developer
> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Saludos
> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> *CeibalJAM!*
> *Somos Azucar*
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] "Activating" a XO-1.5

[Ajay Garg]

Hi Ignacio.

But i need to boot the XO once at least, so as to obtain the developer key?

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> The xo is from Uruguay?
> ..
> Maybe you need a developer key.. See:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_key
>
> 2013/2/18, Ajay Garg :
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I have received a new XO-1.5.  When I  boot it, it shows "activation
> lease
> > not found".
> >
> > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2, i tried the following steps
> ::
> >
> > a)
> > Downloaded the signed-image
> > http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd, and
> > copied it to the root-directory on my USB-drive.
> >
> > b)
> > Downloaded the corresponding
> >
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip
> ;
> > renamed it to "fs.zip", and copied it to the root directory of my
> > USB-drive.
> >
> > c)
> > Inserted the USB-drive into the XO-1.5
> >
> > d)
> > Powered on the  XO.
> >
> > e)
> > Immediately, pressed the 4 game-keys.
> >
> > f)
> > Upon seeing the message "Release the game keys  to continue", unpressed
> the
> > keys.
> > Image installed successfully.
> >
> > g)
> > A firmware was flashed.
> >
> > h)
> > Removed the USB-drive.
> >
> > i)
> > Rebooted the XO.
> >
> > j)
> > Again, the message "Activation lease not found" was seen; the image
> failed
> > to boot into sugar :-( :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > What step have I done wrong?
> >
> > Looking forward to some  help, as I need to get the XO-1.5 running :-\
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ajay Garg
> > Dextrose Developer
> > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Saludos
> Juan Ignacio Rodríguez
> *CeibalJAM!*
> *Somos Azucar*
>



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"Activating" a XO-1.5

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I have received a new XO-1.5.  When I  boot it, it shows "activation lease
not found".

As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2, i tried the following steps ::

a)
Downloaded the signed-image
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd, and
copied it to the root-directory on my USB-drive.

b)
Downloaded the corresponding
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-21/31021o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip;
renamed it to "fs.zip", and copied it to the root directory of my USB-drive.

c)
Inserted the USB-drive into the XO-1.5

d)
Powered on the  XO.

e)
Immediately, pressed the 4 game-keys.

f)
Upon seeing the message "Release the game keys  to continue", unpressed the
keys.
Image installed successfully.

g)
A firmware was flashed.

h)
Removed the USB-drive.

i)
Rebooted the XO.

j)
Again, the message "Activation lease not found" was seen; the image failed
to boot into sugar :-( :-(



What step have I done wrong?

Looking forward to some  help, as I need to get the XO-1.5 running :-\





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Re: Is it possible to hack the "rotate" key?

[Ajay Garg]

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> ajay wrote:
>  > Thanks Gary and Paul.
>  > I tested "Moon" on build 28 on XO-4; and the rotation caused the canvas
> to
>  > be redrawn appropriately.
>  >
>
> okay.  was that unexpected?
>
>
No.. just wanted to state it explicitly that it worked :)




>
>  >
>  > Paul,
>  >
>  > I have two queries ::
>  >
>  > a)
>  > In "Moon"'s code (as already told by Gary), the "size-changed" signal is
>  > used to call the callback that redraws the canvas.
>  > So, in this case, is the "size-changed" signal a result of the
>  > rotate-key-event (KEY_SWITCHVIDEOMODE), or "size-changed" signal is
>  > generated via some another mechanism?
>
> i don't know.
>

ok :)





>
>  >
>  > b)
>  > Is the behaviour of olpc-kbdshim the same for a XO-1.75 and a XO-4 (as
> far
>  > as "that code is written to either run a command
>  > attached to the event (currently /usr/bin/olpc-rotate), or pass the
>  event
>  > through, but not both" is concerned)?
>
> yes.  and for XO-1 and XO-1.5 as well.
>

Great.. thanks !!!





>
> paul
>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:
>  >
>  > > ajay wrote:
>  > >  > Hi all.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Is it possible to hack the "rotate" key in XO?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I wish to have the following working ::
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  * Press the "rotate" key. This will rotate the window.
>  > >  >  * Just after that, have a callback function being called in
> "sugar"
>  > >  > (this of course being possible  only if the "rotate" key could be
>  > > hacked).
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > > as gary points out, the rotate key event (KEY_SWITCHVIDEOMODE) is
>  > > caught by olpc-kbdshim.  that code is written to either run a command
>  > > attached to the event (currently /usr/bin/olpc-rotate), or pass the
>  > > event through, but not both.
>  > >
>  > > if there were consensus that running the command _and_ passing the
>  > > event was safe and reasonable, maybe we could do that, though it
>  > > doesn't feel right to me.
>  > >
>  > > but i also think gary's on the right track by suggesting you look at
>  > > other window events to learn of the rotation changes -- after all,
>  > > rotation doesn't require a button press.  it can be caused by manual
>  > > xrandr invocation, or simply by someone typing "olpc-rotate left".
>  > >
>  > > paul
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I will be thankful for any pointers.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
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>  > >  >
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Re: Is it possible to hack the "rotate" key?

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Gary and Paul.
I tested "Moon" on build 28 on XO-4; and the rotation caused the canvas to
be redrawn appropriately.




Paul,

I have two queries ::

a)
In "Moon"'s code (as already told by Gary), the "size-changed" signal is
used to call the callback that redraws the canvas.
So, in this case, is the "size-changed" signal a result of the
rotate-key-event (KEY_SWITCHVIDEOMODE), or "size-changed" signal is
generated via some another mechanism?

b)
Is the behaviour of olpc-kbdshim the same for a XO-1.75 and a XO-4 (as far
as "that code is written to either run a command
attached to the event (currently /usr/bin/olpc-rotate), or pass the  event
through, but not both" is concerned)?




On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> ajay wrote:
>  > Hi all.
>  >
>  > Is it possible to hack the "rotate" key in XO?
>  >
>  > I wish to have the following working ::
>  >
>  >  * Press the "rotate" key. This will rotate the window.
>  >  * Just after that, have a callback function being called in "sugar"
>  > (this of course being possible  only if the "rotate" key could be
> hacked).
>  >
>
> as gary points out, the rotate key event (KEY_SWITCHVIDEOMODE) is
> caught by olpc-kbdshim.  that code is written to either run a command
> attached to the event (currently /usr/bin/olpc-rotate), or pass the
> event through, but not both.
>
> if there were consensus that running the command _and_ passing the
> event was safe and reasonable, maybe we could do that, though it
> doesn't feel right to me.
>
> but i also think gary's on the right track by suggesting you look at
> other window events to learn of the rotation changes -- after all,
> rotation doesn't require a button press.  it can be caused by manual
> xrandr invocation, or simply by someone typing "olpc-rotate left".
>
> paul
>
>  >
>  >
>  > I will be thankful for any pointers.
>  >
>  >
>  >
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>  >
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Is it possible to hack the "rotate" key?

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

Is it possible to hack the "rotate" key in XO?

I wish to have the following working ::

 * Press the "rotate" key. This will rotate the window.
 * Just after that, have a callback function being called in "sugar"
(this of course being possible  only if the "rotate" key could be hacked).



I will be thankful for any pointers.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

I agree with Gonzalo and Gary; this is just a makeshift solution for the
time-being, so that activities like Speak, Chat, Terminal are not rendered
completely unusable in ebook-mode.

Ideally, the best solution would be to have the OSK-appearance-and
window-shrinkage on "automatic" and "tied-together" basis (without needing
any manual intervention).



On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Gary Martin wrote:

> On 28 Jan 2013, at 18:33, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:
> > ajay wrote:
> >  > Hi all.
> >  >
> >  > A simple solution was found :)
> >  >
> >  > I hacked the "KP_Prior" and "KP_Next" keys, and now they are used for
> >  > making-window-smaller and restoring-original-window-size respectively
> :)
> >
> > so sugar takes over those keys?  aren't those keys used by activities?
> > they're certainly useful in a terminal -- page up and page down.
> >
> > Hmm.. Well a simple "grepping" showed that the "Read" activity is the
> only activity that explicitly makes use of the "KP_Home" and "KP_End" keys;
> but none seemed to make use of "KP_Prior" and "KP_Next".
> >
> >
> > A simple grep is not good enough. Gtk already uses these keys, for
> example in a textview.
> >
> > I can't understand what you are trying to do. The user should press the
> key to enlarge/shrink the activity window? Does not look like a good
> solution.
>
> +1
>
> OSK behaviour should be automatic, no user intervention (other than
> perhaps some manual view scrolling when there is no active focus to get
> into view). If we are missing cases (and we are currently), then these are
> bugs to be fixed and/or features to be landed (often GTK3 related upstream
> targets, but occasionally Sugar/Activity related patches). We made great
> progress in 13.1.0, hopefully we can finish off this effort ready for
> 13.2.0.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
> > Gonzalo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > paul
> >
> >  >
> >  > All thanks to
> >  >* /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev
> >  >* sugar/src/jarabe/view/keyhandler.py
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Just one thing I noticed when  I tried to have the above keys take
> effect
> >  > ONLY in ebook-mode (via the "evtest --query" test), that when I ran
> this
> >  > again and again via the "suprocess" module, the XO-4 behaved very
> >  > erratically. However, when I made the keys take effect irrespective
> of the
> >  > test of ebook-mode, things worked cool. However, I will keep on
> looking
> >  > into the reason.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Thanks a ton to all :)
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > gonzalo wrote:
> >  > >  > Write does not know what is the ebook switch state, that logic
> is in the
> >  > >  > osk.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Looking in the wiki and sugar code, I could not find information
> about
> >  > > how
> >  > >  > read the switch,
> >  > >  > but in ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12326 found this:
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > If you do:
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > evtest --query /dev/input/event4 EV_SW SW_TABLET_MODE; echo $?
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > If the xo is in ebook mode returns 10, if not, returns 0.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > There are any official doc about the switches I am missing?
> There are a
> >  > > way
> >  > >  > to catch a event when the switch is activated, using dbus or
> something
> >  > >  > similar?
> >  > >
> >  > > if you open the device and read it, you'll get a stream of "struct
> >  > > input_event" structures (/usr/include/linux/input.h) representing
> >  > > opening and closing of the SW_TABLET_MODE switch.  here's a C code
> >  > > snippet from olpc-switchd (part of powerd):
> >  > >
> >  > > void ebook_event()
> >  > > {
> >  > > struct input_event ev[1];
> >  > >
> >  > > if (read(ebk_fd, ev, sizeof(ev)) != sizeof(ev))
> >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

   r = ioctl(fd, query_mode->rq, state);
>  > > close(fd);
>  > >
>  > > if (r == -1) {
>  > > perror("ioctl");
>  > > return EXIT_FAILURE;
>  > > }
>  > >
>  > > if (test_bit(keycode, state))
>  > > return 10; /* different from EXIT_FAILURE */
>  > >     else
>  > > return 0;
>  > > }
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > paul
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Gonzalo
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Martin Langhoff <
>  > > martin.langh...@gmail.com
>  > >  > > wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Paul Fox 
> wrote:
>  > >  > > > i believe sugar already has code to detect the two modes, since
>  > >  > > > that's how it knows whether to present the OSK or not.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > Yep. Ajay, I think Write shows you the way :-)
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

A simple solution was found :)

I hacked the "KP_Prior" and "KP_Next" keys, and now they are used for
making-window-smaller and restoring-original-window-size respectively :)

All thanks to
   * /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev
   * sugar/src/jarabe/view/keyhandler.py



Just one thing I noticed when  I tried to have the above keys take effect
ONLY in ebook-mode (via the "evtest --query" test), that when I ran this
again and again via the "suprocess" module, the XO-4 behaved very
erratically. However, when I made the keys take effect irrespective of the
test of ebook-mode, things worked cool. However, I will keep on looking
into the reason.


Thanks a ton to all :)


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> gonzalo wrote:
>  > Write does not know what is the ebook switch state, that logic is in the
>  > osk.
>  >
>  > Looking in the wiki and sugar code, I could not find information about
> how
>  > read the switch,
>  > but in ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12326 found this:
>  >
>  > If you do:
>  >
>  > evtest --query /dev/input/event4 EV_SW SW_TABLET_MODE; echo $?
>  >
>  >
>  > If the xo is in ebook mode returns 10, if not, returns 0.
>  >
>  > There are any official doc about the switches I am missing? There are a
> way
>  > to catch a event when the switch is activated, using dbus or something
>  > similar?
>
> if you open the device and read it, you'll get a stream of "struct
> input_event" structures (/usr/include/linux/input.h) representing
> opening and closing of the SW_TABLET_MODE switch.  here's a C code
> snippet from olpc-switchd (part of powerd):
>
> void ebook_event()
> {
> struct input_event ev[1];
>
> if (read(ebk_fd, ev, sizeof(ev)) != sizeof(ev))
> die("bad read from ebook switch");
>
> dbg(3, "ebk: ev sec %d usec %d type %d code %d value %d",
> ev->time.tv_sec, ev->time.tv_usec,
> ev->type, ev->code, ev->value);
>
> if (ev->type == EV_SW && ev->code == SW_TABLET_MODE) {
> if (ev->value)
> send_event("ebookclose", round_secs(ev), ebk_device);
> else
> send_event("ebookopen", round_secs(ev), ebk_device);
> }
> }
>
>
> perhaps there's an evdev to dbus gateway of some sort, but i don't know
> about it, if so.
>
> the "evtest" commandline example, above, uses an ioctl on the input
> device to determine current state.  here's snippet from the evtest source:
> (full source:  git://anongit.freedesktop.org/evtest)
>
> static int query_device(const char *device, const struct query_mode
> *query_mode>
> {
> int fd;
> int r;
> unsigned long state[NBITS(query_mode->max)];
>
> fd = open(device, O_RDONLY);
> if (fd < 0) {
> perror("open");
> return EXIT_FAILURE;
> }
> memset(state, 0, sizeof(state));
> r = ioctl(fd, query_mode->rq, state);
> close(fd);
>
> if (r == -1) {
> perror("ioctl");
> return EXIT_FAILURE;
> }
>
> if (test_bit(keycode, state))
> return 10; /* different from EXIT_FAILURE */
> else
> return 0;
> }
>
>
>
> paul
>
>
>  >
>  > Gonzalo
>  >
>  >
>  > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Martin Langhoff <
> martin.langh...@gmail.com
>  > > wrote:
>  >
>  > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Paul Fox  wrote:
>  > > > i believe sugar already has code to detect the two modes, since
>  > > > that's how it knows whether to present the OSK or not.
>  > >
>  > > Yep. Ajay, I think Write shows you the way :-)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Paul Fox  wrote:
> > i believe sugar already has code to detect the two modes, since
> > that's how it knows whether to present the OSK or not.
>
> Yep. Ajay, I think Write shows you the way :-)
>

Great.. Thanks !!!

So the candle lights again in my heart; again waiting eagerly for my
XO-4-Touch to arrive in a couple of days :)




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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

>
>
> On 24 January 2013 08:11, Ajay Garg  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>> So, it seems that just hacking onto the game-key won't help :(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. Will not work, because the osk will appear if you touch over a
>>>> input widget.
>>>> The game keys are not the expected way to show the osk.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm.. which brings us back to square one :(
>>>
>>
>>
>> Let's try another way :P
>>
>> Is there a way, so that we may know whether we are in ebook-mode, or
>> normal-mode?
>>
>>
> Yes, there is a ebook switch event:
>
> Jan 24 01:14:28 xo-1e-89-0d kernel: OLPC XO-1.75 lid and ebook switches
> Jan 24 01:14:28 xo-1e-89-0d kernel: input: OLPC lid switch as
> /devices/virtual/input/input3
> Jan 24 01:14:28 xo-1e-89-0d kernel: input: OLPC ebook switch as
> /devices/virtual/input/input4
>
>
Great !!

Now a good weekend exercise, to bring this message from kernel to user
space :)


> Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev:
> starting olpc-kbdshim-udev version 29
> Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd
> 4: found touchscreen (zForce touchscreen) /dev/input/event8 (18:00:00)
> Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd
> 6: found keyboard (AT Translated Set 2 keyboard) /dev/input/event5
> (11:01:01)
> Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd
> 7: found touchpad (FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad) /dev/input/event9
> (11:02:0f)
>
> Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd
> 8: found ebook switch
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>>> So, it seems that just hacking onto the game-key won't help :(
>>>
>>
>> No. Will not work, because the osk will appear if you touch over a input
>> widget.
>> The game keys are not the expected way to show the osk.
>>
>
> Hmm.. which brings us back to square one :(
>


Let's try another way :P

Is there a way, so that we may know whether we are in ebook-mode, or
normal-mode?

If yes, we can at least make the windows smaller for newly launched
activity-windows.




>
>
>
>>
>> Gonzalo
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

> 
>
>> So, it seems that just hacking onto the game-key won't help :(
>>
>
> No. Will not work, because the osk will appear if you touch over a input
> widget.
> The game keys are not the expected way to show the osk.
>

Hmm.. which brings us back to square one :(



>
> Gonzalo
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>
>> > Please find attached a sample screenshot of the "Speak" activity; the
>> window
>>
>>>  > has been resized to 0.7 of the original size (the screenshot doesn't
>>>> show a
>>>> > keyboard yet,  as it was done on  sugar-build).
>>>>
>>>> Question: Do all activities behave properly when the screen is scaled
>>>> that way? (I don't know that all activities are paying attention to
>>>> resizing events. One quick way to check is to look at what happens
>>>> when activities are rotated.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will be receiving my XO-4 Touch in a couple of days; will answer  this
>>> question then, after testing it in real-time :)
>>>
>>>
>> XO-4 does not support rotate the screen yet. You should try with other
>> models.
>>
>
> Ok, thanks for the info :)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just figured out one thing via Nitika's XO-4-Touch (thanks to Nitika for
>>> bearing my brunt of the testing-questions !!), that pressing all 4
>>> game-keys at once, does toggle the appearance of the OSK !!
>>>
>>> So, I guess, we DO have a point, wherein we can hack "resizing" of the
>>> window.
>>>
>>> So, now I have another question ::
>>> Where is the code for "handling game keys" handled (as far as appearance
>>> and disappearance of the OSK is concerned) ?
>>> In Firmware? In Sugar? Elsewhere?
>>
>>
>> The keyboard appear because you pressed a key (you don't need press the 4
>> at once, any key will show it)
>>
>> Detecting osk show/hide. is more complicate than should be, in my point
>> of view. Probably, because the idea behind this is the osk should appear
>> and hide in a automatic way based in the widgets needs.
>>
>> I think you should check the class DocumentView in widgets.py in Write
>> activity, to see how the signals are used. Carlos Garnacho worked on this.
>>
>
> Ahh.. that's a nice pointer Gonzalo :)
>
> It seems that only "size-allocate" and "request-clear-area" are the
> signals to be considered (not sure though; again, can only  verify after a
> couple of days).
>
> If these signals are in fact emitted when the OSK appears/disappears by
> pressing a game key, I think we should be done. We would have found a hack
> :)
>
> Keeping fingers crossed, and waiting eagerly for my XO-4-Touch to arrive.
>


Gonzalo,

another thing Nitika and me found,  are the following ::

a)
Ensure that the XO is in normal-mode, and no activity is turned on.

b)
Turn to ebook-mode.

c)
Open "Speak" activity.

d)
OSK appears automatically this time.

e)
Now, pressing the game-key does not cause the OSK to go away :-\
It is only when the "keyboard" key is  pressed, does  the OSK disappear.

f)
If the game-key is pressed again, the OSK appears.


Gist :: Game-key works fine and consistently, when the OSK is required to
be made appeared.
  BUT, it does NOT WORK, if the OSK has been launched automatically.


So, it seems that just hacking onto the game-key won't help :(



>
>
>
>
>>
>> Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

> > Please find attached a sample screenshot of the "Speak" activity; the
> window
>
>>  > has been resized to 0.7 of the original size (the screenshot doesn't
>>> show a
>>> > keyboard yet,  as it was done on  sugar-build).
>>>
>>> Question: Do all activities behave properly when the screen is scaled
>>> that way? (I don't know that all activities are paying attention to
>>> resizing events. One quick way to check is to look at what happens
>>> when activities are rotated.)
>>>
>>
>> I will be receiving my XO-4 Touch in a couple of days; will answer  this
>> question then, after testing it in real-time :)
>>
>>
> XO-4 does not support rotate the screen yet. You should try with other
> models.
>

Ok, thanks for the info :)



>
>
>
>> Just figured out one thing via Nitika's XO-4-Touch (thanks to Nitika for
>> bearing my brunt of the testing-questions !!), that pressing all 4
>> game-keys at once, does toggle the appearance of the OSK !!
>>
>> So, I guess, we DO have a point, wherein we can hack "resizing" of the
>> window.
>>
>> So, now I have another question ::
>> Where is the code for "handling game keys" handled (as far as appearance
>> and disappearance of the OSK is concerned) ?
>> In Firmware? In Sugar? Elsewhere?
>
>
> The keyboard appear because you pressed a key (you don't need press the 4
> at once, any key will show it)
>
> Detecting osk show/hide. is more complicate than should be, in my point of
> view. Probably, because the idea behind this is the osk should appear and
> hide in a automatic way based in the widgets needs.
>
> I think you should check the class DocumentView in widgets.py in Write
> activity, to see how the signals are used. Carlos Garnacho worked on this.
>

Ahh.. that's a nice pointer Gonzalo :)

It seems that only "size-allocate" and "request-clear-area" are the signals
to be considered (not sure though; again, can only  verify after a couple
of days).

If these signals are in fact emitted when the OSK appears/disappears by
pressing a game key, I think we should be done. We would have found a hack
:)

Keeping fingers crossed, and waiting eagerly for my XO-4-Touch to arrive.




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>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Walter Bender wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Thanks Walter and Gary for your replies.
> >
> > Well, what I am trying to achieve is, is just a simple and consistent
> > (fixed) behaviour across every activity - make the window-size smaller.
> > This serves two advantages ::
> >
> >* Works everywhere :)
> >* Is consistent across everywhere :)
> >
>
> I applaud these goals.
>

Thanks :)




>
> > Please find attached a sample screenshot of the "Speak" activity; the
> window
> > has been resized to 0.7 of the original size (the screenshot doesn't
> show a
> > keyboard yet,  as it was done on  sugar-build).
>
> Question: Do all activities behave properly when the screen is scaled
> that way? (I don't know that all activities are paying attention to
> resizing events. One quick way to check is to look at what happens
> when activities are rotated.)
>

I will be receiving my XO-4 Touch in a couple of days; will answer  this
question then, after testing it in real-time :)





>
> >
> >
> > If the above seems ok, then all that is needed is a way to figure out
> > instances when the OSK appears, and when it disappears, so that the
> window
> > resizing can be done at those strategic points.
> >
> > (
> > P.S. :: I see that exporting "GTK_IM_MODULE=Maliit" is all that is
> > required to start using the Maliit OSK, but I could not find any
> >   way to hack onto every appearence/disappearance of the OSK.
> > )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Gary Martin  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 23 Jan 2013, at 15:29, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Ajay Garg 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Hi all.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wish to fix the bug, where some activities (Chat, Terminal, Speak
> for
> >> >> instance) are rendered unusable in the ebook-mode, due to the OSK
> >> >> covering
> >> >> the area of text-input.
> >> >> I have figured out a generic working solution for this - the idea is
> to
> >> >> minimize the activity windows when the OSK appears, and move back to
> >> >> the
> >> >> normal size when the OSK disappears.
> >> >
> >> > I thought we had a different approach under development: to scroll the
> >> > window up in the case of the text view being occluded by the OSK?
> >>
> >> Yes, there are patches in GTK3 and Sugar for this, though with some
> issues
> >> still needing worked through. One activity that we managed to push hard
> to
> >> get polished was Write, it needed to be a special case as it doesn't use
> >> normal gtk widgets. My (rough) understanding of the implementation is
> that
> >> GTK first looks for a scrolled view and tries to scroll it so that the
> >> cursor/focus rect is kept in view [1], if no scrolled view is found it
> >> scrolls the canvas [2].
> >>
> >> [1] the Write behaviour here is not ideal as the abiword widget
> >> implementation for the text area didn't allow for extra padding at the
> >> bottom of the view, so the text being edited is hard up next to the OSK
> >> rather than with some extra space so the text selection handles stay
> >> visible.
> >>
> >> [2] I think there were patches in GTK3 Sugar so that the activity canvas
> >> area was automatically placed in a scroll view, so the toolbars are
> >> guaranteed to stay in view, but not sure if this landed.
> >>
> >> > This
> >> > should be doable for activities that have scrolling windows, such as
> >> > terminal and chat. Speak, which doesn't scroll could be refactored to
> >> > put the textview on the top instead of the bottom of the screen. (I
> >> > suspect that whatever solution we have will involve some intervention
> >> > in some activities.)
> >>
> >> Yes some intervention in activities will still be needed, and the first
> >> thing to do if you want any of this auto scrolling support is make sure
> your
> >> activity is ported to GTK3! ;) FOr activities like Speak I'd posted
> mockup
> >> images to a previous mail list thread showing how moving the text input
> area
> >> to the top of the UI would work well (the eyes will just peek over the
> top

Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I wish to fix the bug, where some activities (Chat, Terminal, Speak for
instance) are rendered unusable in the ebook-mode, due to the OSK covering
the area of text-input.
I have figured out a generic working solution for this - the idea is to
minimize the activity windows when the OSK appears, and move back to the
normal size when the OSK disappears.

I have tested the re-sizing the windows; however, to make the fix  work
everywhere, I was thinking of the following algorithm ::

a)
Just before/after the OSK appears, make the current window smaller.

b)
Just after/before the OSK disappears, revert the current  window to its
original size (if not already).


This requires a way to know when and how the appeareance/disappearance of
the OSK is triggered.

How can this be done? I am sure there must be some gobject-signal for this
- I just can't seem to figure it  out by manually browsing the code, since
I don't personally  have a  XO4-Touch with me :-(



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Re: Difference in behaviour of "telepathy-gabble", when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

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On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:44 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> > Any ideas, please?  :)
> >
> >
>
> Ok, how about a couple of questions. What version of erlang is
> installed? Did you create the *online* group?
>

Oops... that was it !! :)

Creating the group did it :) :)


Thanks (yet again) Jerry !!! :) :)



>
> Jerry
>
>
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg 
> > wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I have been trying to get buddies visible in the
> > neighborhood-view, when XOs are communicating via
> > ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
> > Following are the two cases ::
> >
> >
> > i)
> > Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
> > Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)
> >
> > In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
> > and receive the  "members changed signals" (as per the
> > attached PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
> > Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)
> >
> >
> > ii)
> > Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
> > Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6
> >
> > In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
> > but DO NOT receive the "members changed signals" (as per the
> > attached FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
> > Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some additional notes ::
> > ==
> >
> > a)
> > Both servers are running with the same  "ejabberd.cfg" file,
> > as attached.
> >
> >
> > b)
> > On CentOS, following are effective, before starting
> > ejabberd ::
> >
> >setenforce 0
> >service iptables
> > stop
> >service ip6tables
> > stop
> >
> >
> > On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting
> > ejabberd ::
> >
> >setenforce 0
> >iptables -F
> >iptables -X
> >iptables -t nat -F
> >iptables -t nat
> > -X
> >iptables -t mangle
> > -F
> >iptables -t mangle
> > -X
> >ip6tables -F
> >ip6tables -X
> >ip6tables -t mangle
> > -F
> >ip6tables -t mangle
> > -X
> >
> >
> >
> > c)
> > Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the
> > patched version of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in
> >
> http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
>  (Thanks again Jerry).
> >
> > More  importantly, the issue of
> > https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via
> > the "persist-all-pubsub.patch" (Thanks Daniel Drake).
> > The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via "ejabberdctl
> > dump db.txt" (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).
> >
> >
> >
> 
> > However, very surprisingly, the "__get_members_ready_cb" still
> > receives NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see
> > FAIL-shell.log),
> >
> > but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
> > PASS-shell.log).
> >
> #
> >
> >
> >
> > d)
> > Most importantly, on both the servers, the "Send XML Stream"
> > log is seen in "/var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log"; however, the
> >  

Re: Difference in behaviour of "telepathy-gabble", when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

[Ajay Garg]

Any ideas, please?  :)


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I have been trying to get buddies visible in the neighborhood-view, when
> XOs are communicating via ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
> Following are the two cases ::
>
>
> i)
> Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
> Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)
>
> In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; and receive
> the  "members changed signals" (as per the attached
> PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
> Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)
>
>
> ii)
> Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
> Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6
>
> In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; but DO NOT
> receive the "members changed signals" (as per the attached
> FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
> Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.
>
>
>
> Some additional notes ::
> ==
>
> a)
> Both servers are running with the same  "ejabberd.cfg" file, as attached.
>
>
> b)
> On CentOS, following are effective, before starting ejabberd ::
>
>setenforce 0
>service iptables stop
>service ip6tables stop
>
>
> On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting ejabberd ::
>
>setenforce 0
>iptables -F
>iptables -X
>iptables -t nat -F
>iptables -t nat -X
>iptables -t mangle -F
>iptables -t mangle -X
>ip6tables -F
>ip6tables -X
>ip6tables -t mangle -F
>ip6tables -t mangle -X
>
>
>
> c)
> Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the patched version
> of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
> (Thanks again Jerry).
>
> More  importantly, the issue of
> https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via the
> "persist-all-pubsub.patch" (Thanks Daniel Drake).
> The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via "ejabberdctl dump db.txt"
> (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).
>
>
>
> 
> However, very surprisingly, the "__get_members_ready_cb" still receives
> NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see FAIL-shell.log),
>
>   but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
> PASS-shell.log).
>
> #
>
>
>
> d)
> Most importantly, on both the servers, the "Send XML Stream" log is seen
> in "/var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log"; however, the members-changed signal is
> seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case.
>
>
> For brevity, I am also pasting the  "Send XML Stream" message (which
> happens to be the same on both the  servers) ::
>
> ==
>
>
> =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 ===
> D(<0.360.0>:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML on stream = <<" type='headline'> node='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'> id='54E6D08D69C42'> type='str'>#00A0FF,#9A5200 type='bytes'>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 xmlns='http://jabber.o

Re: Location for source-rpm of "ejabberd", being used in XS-0.7

[Ajay Garg]

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 18:54 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I am wanting to share the sugar-activities, via "gabble" protocol.
> >
> > As a first step, I installed
> > http://dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC-School-Server-0.7-i386.iso on a
> > VirtualBox, and did the "xs-setup example.org " step.
> > (As the second step, I chose "manual networking", to configure the
> > virtual-image as per my network. After the networking was set, I could
> > use the "Chat" activity between two XOs fine :) :)
> >
> >
> > Now, I wish to have this sharing done, with only ejabberd running (in
> > other words, without installing all the other components that come
> > along packaged with the XS).
> > The "ejabberd" version (as shown by "rpm -qa | grep ejabberd") is
> > "ejabberd-2.1.10.el6.olpc1.i686"
> >
> > Regarding this, I wanted to know the source of the ejabberd rpm being
> > used ::
> >
> > (i)
> > Is it the vanilla Fedora rpm that is being used?
> >
> > (ii)
> > Or some OLPC-specific patches come along (which would mean there
> > must be a corresponding "OLPC" src-rpm for the same :) )
> >
> >
>
> It's patched, have a look in:
> http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/
>

Thanks Jerry; as  usual you were on the spot :)
I could build and install the rpm on Fedora :)


Just one more question:
===

I still see that there are some differences (mainly related to the "served
domain names", and "allowed clients that could register" fields) between
the XS-0.7's ejabberd.cfg, and the one I just installed on Fedora.

Although I know the steps to change these settings to make ejabberd work,
but I still wonder whether the ejabberd-installed-after-building-
http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpmshould
be the same as
ejabberd-found-on-XS-0.7-just-after-the-XS-has-been-installed (i.e., the
XS-ejabberd's snapshot just before "xs-setup example.org" is run).


Anyways, thanks a ton !!!




>
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>
>
>
>


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Location for source-rpm of "ejabberd", being used in XS-0.7

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I am wanting to share the sugar-activities, via "gabble" protocol.

As a first step, I installed
http://dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC-School-Server-0.7-i386.iso on a VirtualBox,
and did the "xs-setup example.org " step.
(As the second step, I chose "manual networking", to configure the
virtual-image as per my network. After the networking was set, I could use
the "Chat" activity between two XOs fine :) :)


Now, I wish to have this sharing done, with only ejabberd running (in other
words, without installing all the other components that come along packaged
with the XS).
The "ejabberd" version (as shown by "rpm -qa | grep ejabberd") is
"ejabberd-2.1.10.el6.olpc1.i686"

Regarding this, I wanted to know the source of the ejabberd rpm being used
::

(i)
Is it the vanilla Fedora rpm that is being used?

(ii)
Or some OLPC-specific patches come along (which would mean there must
be a corresponding "OLPC" src-rpm for the same :) )



I will be thankful for any pointers :)


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Re: Locations for bitfrost src-rpm packages

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Paul, Jerry, Peter.

All three of your answers provided me the maximum cumulative information
possible.
Thanks a ton !! :)

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 03:37 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> Where can I find the corresponding source-rpm packages, for ::
> >>
> >>  *
> >> http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f18/bitfrost-1.0.18-1.fc18.armv7hl.rpm
> >>   AND
> >>  *
> >>
> http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f18/bitfrost-sugar-1.0.18-1.fc18.armv7hl.rpm
> >>
> >>
> >
> > These are in Fedora proper for i686 but looks like not in fedora's ARM
> > repo.
> >
> >
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/testing/18/SRPMS/bitfrost-1.0.18-1.fc18.src.rpm
>
> They are the same, there's no separation between ARM and i686 when it
> comes to the Fedora src.rpm
>
> Peter
>



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Locations for bitfrost src-rpm packages

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

Where can I find the corresponding source-rpm packages, for ::

 *
http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f18/bitfrost-1.0.18-1.fc18.armv7hl.rpm
  AND
 *
http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f18/bitfrost-sugar-1.0.18-1.fc18.armv7hl.rpm




Thanks in advance !! :)



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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-hang on 1.75-touch

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Jerry.

1)
I suspected that power-management could be   an issue.
However, the issue  occurs irrespective of whether power-management  is
enabled or not.

2)
I just realized that build-15 is also out, and there are some
log-differences (at least in shell.log).
So, better to download  os15 image,  and update with the "tracing" results
on os15.

WIll do that, and update accordingly.

Thanks Jerry again.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 18:26 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:
> > ajay wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Please find attached the logs.
> >  >
> >
> >
> > probably better to record the data associated
> > with bug reports in a trac ticket.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Done at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4278
> >
>
> Ajay,
>
> I can't recreate this, but your log does look a bit strange, there is no
> dcon feedback noted.
>
> Can you edit /sbin/powerd and change line 454 from
> # tracing=1
> to
> tracing=1
>
> That will create /var/log/powerd.trace with the full cycle of events for
> powerd. Please reboot and see if you can recreate this issue, when the
> hang occurs include powerd.tracing along with the other logs you posted
> the previous time.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO-hang on 1.75-touch

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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> ajay wrote:
>  >
>  > Please find attached the logs.
>  >
>
> probably better to record the data associated
> with bug reports in a trac ticket.
>

Thanks.
Done at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4278



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XO-hang on 1.75-touch

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

Testing http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os14/xo-1.75/31014o2.zd on a XO-1.75
touch, I note the following ::


a)
After the image is flashed, the XO works fine in general; more importantly,
as long as all the work is being done via touchpad-pointer (and not through
finger-touches), things work perfect.


b)
Working through finger-touches also work well, as long as c) does not
happen.


c)
At some RANDOM point in time, doing "Finger-touch on Home-View XO-icon" ==>
"Finger-touch on My-Settings" causes the settings-window to NOT open.
Thereafter, all "clicks" (via finger-touch, and touchpad-window) stop
working.


Anybody hit by this spuriously? (I am being hit fairly regularly, to the
extent of having the XO-1.75-touch unusable).





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Major bugs for "Software-Update"

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I have raised the following two tickets, which seem to be major ones for
"Software Update" ::

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4274
[Selecting/Deselecting particular activities doesn't work in "Software
Update"]

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4275
[Activity-Group URLS cannot be modified]

I have also listed the links for the patches for  the above two tickets.

It will be nice if these could be included for 0.98 cycle (they surely fit
into the "regressions" category :P ).



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Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

*
I tested on XO-1.75 with os14; the frame appeared fine (booting-up with the
USB-flash drive, and USB-modem inserted) !!!

*
Pulling off my hair, I re-tested on XO-1.75 with os11 (booting-up with the
USB-flash drive, and USB-modem inserted) ; thankfully, the frame-icon did
not appear (as before).

*
I then tested on XO-1.75 with the os12 (booting up with the USB-flash
drive, and USB-modem inserted); the frame-icon appeared FINE here too.


I compared the packages-difference between os11 and os12; os12 has an
updated version of usb_modeswitch and usb_modeswitch_data. Also, in os12,
there is no more the error

usb_modeswitch_dispatcher: *** glibc detected ***
usb_modeswitch_dispatcher: double free or corruption (!prev):
0x00081fe0 ***

that was happening in os11 (in the culprit case, that is).


So, bad news   : Things are happening without us  knowing the root-cause :-\
 good news  : Seems like http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12340 can  be
closed :D


Thanks everyone for the help (especially James).



On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, RJV  wrote:

> Thanks, James/Tony. But that works, too, fine. The mobile icon plus the
> frame presence is ok.
>
> Another thing, though, that I have noticed is,
>
> With the 3G USB stick in, after Disconnec-ting and Remove-ing (with PM
> off) when I select Shut Down, it does not shut down normally. I have to
> Power off the system.
>
> XO 1.75 - 3.1, 12.1, 0.96, Build 21,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jv
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:14:41AM +0530, RJV wrote:
>> > Hi James,
>> >
>> > >> I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power
>> > managament was enabled,
>> >
>> > The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What
>> does "the
>> > frame icon for the modem" mean?
>>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support
>> "An icon will be added to the frame when a modem is connected, and the
>> user will be able to connect and disconnect from there."
>>
>> Also known as the "GSM device palette".
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Share
>>
>> Since these mockups the icon has changed to a symbol for a mobile
>> telephone.
>>
>> The palette has not changed much, if at all.
>>
>> >
>> > Jv
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:51 AM, James Cameron 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > That's not what Ajay said here:
>> > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/036409.html
>> >
>> > Ajay, can you confirm in the above posting that all power management
>> > was disabled?
>> >
>> > I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if
>> power
>> > managament was enabled, but I see that as a separate problem now.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:20:45PM +0530, RJV wrote:
>> > > As Jerry mentioned, the trick is to uncheck Power Management
>> option under
>> > the
>> > > Power options of the laptop. Otherwise, the scenarios outlined by
>> Ajay
>> > can be
>> > > reproduced.
>> > >
>> > > It seems the power supply to the USB ports do make a difference.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Ravichandran J.V.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM,  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > USB flash drive
>> > >
>> > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100,
>> fors...@ozonline.com.au
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > I repeated these tests
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > > > XO-1.75 and XO-4
>> > > > > OS14
>> > > > > Huawei E160E modem
>> > > > > Imation 8GB memory stick
>> > > >
>> > > > Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash
>> drive?
>> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick
>> > > >
>> > > > Ajay said pen-drive, and I took that to mean a USB flash
>> drive.
>> > > >
>> > > > > I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay,
>> the modem
>> > > > > appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and
>> before boot
>> > > > >
>> > > > > but for both laptops
>> > > > >
>> > > > > In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in
>> after boot,
>> > the
>> > > > > frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I
>> could
>> > > > > browse the net ok
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes, this is SL #4255.
>> > > >
>> > > > > In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in
>> before
>> > boot, I
>> > > > > got to the connected display in the frame but the upload
>> and
>> > > > > download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I
>> was
>> > > > > browsing, the connected time did update ok.
>> > > >
>> > > > Interesting, thanks.  Updated SL #4255.  I've never seen
>> data
>> > counters
>> > > > in 13.1.0 builds.
>> >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

[Ajay Garg]

I just compared the "case_*_messages" files, and it seems that the reason
of the modem not being listed/detected/appearing in case 1, is because the
"cdc_ether" driver doesn't start upon boot.


On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

> That's very interesting.  So it is the pen drive causing the problem.
> Does a pen drive of a different manufacturer also cause the problem?
>
> (I see a similar problem on XO-4 B1 with 13.1.0 os12, ... if any pen
> drive is attached the modem is detected by the kernel, not shown by
> frame, and not shown by "nmcli dev", but as I know the USB host has
> power design problems, I'm not sure how reliable this fact is.)
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I tested on os11, with all power-management disabled.

0.
Insert a pen-drive.

a)
Inserted modem in another slot; the modem is detected.

b)
Reboot.

c)
Modem is NOT detected.

d)
Remove modem.

e)
Insert modem;  the modem is detected.


I tried the above steps 5 times; and the results were same.


Also, please find attached a sample  python script, which lists all the
detected network-devices.
When this script is run as "python nm_test.py" in step c), the modem-device
is not detected by this script as well; whereas in other cases, this
script  detects the device.









Another sequence ::


0.
Ensure that there is no pen-drive inserted in any of the USB slots.

a)
Inserted modem; the modem is detected.

b)
Reboot.

c)
Modem is detected.

d)
Remove modem.

e)
Insert modem;  the modem is detected.


I tried the above steps 5 times; and the results were same.


===


I will try the  same  steps with os12, once I am finished downloading it.


===


I don't have a XO-1.5; so can't try on it :-\






On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:

> On 11/21/2012 01:07 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>
>
>> Dropping the power to the usb bus is making the modem play peek-a-boo
>> with the kernel: 
>> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/**10708
>> .
>> 
>> >
>>
>
> And just to be clear its more than just a power dropping problem.  Both
> 1.75 and XO-4 both have the ability to keep the USB bus powered during
> suspend (with an EC firmware change) but on resume the kernel resets the
> USB bus.  I don't know if the kernel has an option not to do that.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:07:20PM +1100, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> > Dropping the power to the usb bus is making the modem play peek-a-boo
> with the
> > kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10708.
>
> Is that all it is?  How boring.  Nothing new.
>
> Ajay, can you confirm your problem goes away if you turn off automatic
> power management?
>


Martin, James :

I am downloading os12 for XO-1.75 so that I can update with the results on
the latest image.
Please provide me about 5-6 hours (I have 56KBPS download-speed
connection).



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[TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I have been facing transient issues in getting the 3G-Modem recognised (via
the appearence of the corresponding icon in the bottom-tray).

There really is no fixed pattern; sometimes the icon appears when the modem
is inserted; sometimes not.
Same is the case when the XO is rebooted, while the modem is inserted. Upon
booting, sometimes the icon appears; sometimes not.

I don't remember such issues in 12.1.0; there, the icon appeared whenever
it ought to.


Is someone else too facing such transient issues; or am I the only one hit?



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Re: [FEATURE-BROKEN] "Send to Friend" feature not working in os11

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:-)
Done at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4242


Thanks for the reply :-)


On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Martin Langhoff  wrote:

> How about filing a bug? :-)
>
>
> m
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > On XO-1.75s, os11 image, the "Send to Friend" feature isn't working.
> >
> > Is it a known issue?
> > Doing a simple textual "send to" search on bugs.sugarlabs.org did not
> yield
> > anything useful.
> >
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[FEATURE-BROKEN] "Send to Friend" feature not working in os11

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Hi all.

On XO-1.75s, os11 image, the "Send to Friend" feature isn't working.

Is it a known issue?
Doing a simple textual "send to" search on bugs.sugarlabs.org did not yield
anything useful.


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Re: "Software Update" section

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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Tue, 2012-10-30 at 01:13 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > How is the "Software Update" section
> > (/usr/share/sugar/extensions/cpsection/updater) installed in
> > http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os7/xo-1.75/ done?
> >
> > As I see, the contents of "extensions/cpsection/updater" present on
> > the build; and on the sugar-mainline
> > (http://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar/mainline) are different.
>
>
> See http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os7/xo-1.75/31007o2.packages.txt
>
> sugar-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-artwork-0.97.7-1.fc18.armv7hl
> sugar-base-0.96.0-2.fc18.armv7hl
> sugar-cp-datetime-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-cp-frame-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-cp-language-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-cp-modemconfiguration-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-cp-network-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-cp-power-0.97.8-1.fc18.noarch
> sugar-datastore-0.97.1-1.fc18.armv7hl
> sugar-presence-service-0.90.2-2.fc18.noarch
> sugar-toolkit-0.97.1-2.fc18.armv7hl
> sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.97.7-1.fc18.armv7hl
> sugar-update-control-0.26-1.fc18.noarch
>


Great .. !!

So.. the next question, should not everything in
"extensions/cpsection/updater"  in sugar repository be deleted?
I understand that since as of  now, "sugar-update-control" has a dependency
over "sugar", so the over-writing is done; but this does not seem the right
way.


Seems more like a design/architecture issue, rather than a problematic one
:D


Thanks again Jerry !!


> and the latest src rpm for sugar[1] and note the cp section of the spec
> file. Observe that sugar-update-control is present above while
> sugar-cp-control is absent. You can get the src rpm for
> sugar-update-control from OLPC[2].
>
> Jerry
>
> 1. http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/testing/18/SRPMS/
> 2. http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f18/
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"Software Update" section

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Hi all.

How is the "Software Update" section
(/usr/share/sugar/extensions/cpsection/updater) installed in
http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os7/xo-1.75/ done?

As I see, the contents of "extensions/cpsection/updater" present on the
build; and on the sugar-mainline (http://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar/mainline)
are different.


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Re: Peers in Neighborhood-View, on sugar-build.

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

> No. For sugar and activities issues, upstream is sugarlabs.


Okies :)




>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gonzalo.
>>
>> Filed the ticket at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4048
>> Should I file a still upstream ticket, at OLPC tracker too?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>>
>>> I can't see other xos in the neighborhood view either.
>>> Please fill a ticket.
>>>
>>> Gonzalo
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ping :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ajay Garg 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have to do anything special, for the peers to appear in the
>>>>> Neighborhood-View of sugar-build on F17?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have already done ::
>>>>>* sudo seteenforce 0
>>>>>    * sudo service iptables stop
>>>>>* sudo service ip6tables stop
>>>>>
>>>>> Doing the above causes the peers to appear on F14, but not on F17 (on
>>>>> sugar-build that is).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Will be grateful for any pointers :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ajay Garg
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>>>>
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Re: Peers in Neighborhood-View, on sugar-build.

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Thanks Gonzalo.

Filed the ticket at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4048
Should I file a still upstream ticket, at OLPC tracker too?

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

> I can't see other xos in the neighborhood view either.
> Please fill a ticket.
>
> Gonzalo
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Ping :)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> Do we have to do anything special, for the peers to appear in the
>>> Neighborhood-View of sugar-build on F17?
>>>
>>> I have already done ::
>>>* sudo seteenforce 0
>>>* sudo service iptables stop
>>>* sudo service ip6tables stop
>>>
>>> Doing the above causes the peers to appear on F14, but not on F17 (on
>>> sugar-build that is).
>>>
>>>
>>> Will be grateful for any pointers :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ajay Garg
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: Peers in Neighborhood-View, on sugar-build.

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Ping :)

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Do we have to do anything special, for the peers to appear in the
> Neighborhood-View of sugar-build on F17?
>
> I have already done ::
>* sudo seteenforce 0
>* sudo service iptables stop
>* sudo service ip6tables stop
>
> Doing the above causes the peers to appear on F14, but not on F17 (on
> sugar-build that is).
>
>
> Will be grateful for any pointers :)
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
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Peers in Neighborhood-View, on sugar-build.

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

Do we have to do anything special, for the peers to appear in the
Neighborhood-View of sugar-build on F17?

I have already done ::
   * sudo seteenforce 0
   * sudo service iptables stop
   * sudo service ip6tables stop

Doing the above causes the peers to appear on F14, but not on F17 (on
sugar-build that is).


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Re: [POSSIBLY BROKEN FEATURE] Do 3G-Modem connections work in http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd ?

[Ajay Garg]

Well, I don't know what it is, but it's working now.

One point to note, is that I had to modify the code  FROM


#
  self._connection_timestamp = time.time() - \
 connection.get_settings('connection')['timestamp']

#


TO


#

  # Introspect the settings's keys once; else
sometimes

  # the key 'timestamp' gets missed.
  connection.get_settings('connection').keys()

  self._connection_timestamp = time.time() - \
 connection.get_settings('connection')['timestamp']

#

in sugar/extensions/deviceicon/network.py.



Sorry for the bother :-\






On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM, RJV  wrote:
>
>> I am not sure about 13.1 but this download worked for me -
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#XO-1.75 on 0.96 Sugar XO
>> 1.75 C2 Build 21.
>
>
> Yep JV, that works at my side too :)
>
> Thanks for the reply anyways.
>
>
>
>>
>> Jv
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda raising the priority of the issue.
>>> Just want to know, that does this feature work in general on
>>> http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd (or later) ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying to get my 3G Idea Cellular modem working on
>>>> http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd, and have not
>>>> been successful.
>>>> Please find attached the error message I get; and "/var/log/messages"
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some notes ::
>>>>
>>>> a)
>>>> I experience the exact same failure steps, while working on the
>>>> sugar-build on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my laptop..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> b)
>>>> The modem DOES WORK FINE, in Gnome on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my
>>>> laptop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> c)
>>>> The modem DOES WORK FINE, on a sugar-jhbuild on Fedora-14, based on
>>>> NM-0.8, on my laptop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if any other info is required.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [POSSIBLY BROKEN FEATURE] Do 3G-Modem connections work in http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd ?

[Ajay Garg]

On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM, RJV  wrote:

> I am not sure about 13.1 but this download worked for me -
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#XO-1.75 on 0.96 Sugar XO
> 1.75 C2 Build 21.


Yep JV, that works at my side too :)

Thanks for the reply anyways.



>
> Jv
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Kinda raising the priority of the issue.
>> Just want to know, that does this feature work in general on
>> http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd (or later) ?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I have been trying to get my 3G Idea Cellular modem working on
>>> http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd, and have not
>>> been successful.
>>> Please find attached the error message I get; and "/var/log/messages"
>>> file.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some notes ::
>>>
>>> a)
>>> I experience the exact same failure steps, while working on the
>>> sugar-build on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my laptop..
>>>
>>>
>>> b)
>>> The modem DOES WORK FINE, in Gnome on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my
>>> laptop.
>>>
>>>
>>> c)
>>> The modem DOES WORK FINE, on a sugar-jhbuild on Fedora-14, based on
>>> NM-0.8, on my laptop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if any other info is required.
>>>
>>>
>>
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[POSSIBLY BROKEN FEATURE] Do 3G-Modem connections work in http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd ?

[Ajay Garg]

Kinda raising the priority of the issue.
Just want to know, that does this feature work in general on
http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd (or later) ?

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I have been trying to get my 3G Idea Cellular modem working on
> http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/xo-1.75/31005o2.zd, and have not been
> successful.
> Please find attached the error message I get; and "/var/log/messages" file.
>
>
> Some notes ::
>
> a)
> I experience the exact same failure steps, while working on the
> sugar-build on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my laptop..
>
>
> b)
> The modem DOES WORK FINE, in Gnome on Fedora-17, based on NM-0.9, on my
> laptop.
>
>
> c)
> The modem DOES WORK FINE, on a sugar-jhbuild on Fedora-14, based on
> NM-0.8, on my laptop.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if any other info is required.
>
>

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Re: [FATAL] No popup appears, to ask for secrets when connecting to Wifi-Network in Neighborhood-View

[Ajay Garg]

Yes Simon,

already acknowledged that fix (after testing) in the previous mail :)

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:

> On 10/09/2012 07:52 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Seems that the same issue happens on XO-1 as well, as reported at
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/**archive/sugar-devel/2012-**
>> October/040173.html<http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040173.html>
>>
>
> Likely fixed with http://lists.sugarlabs.org/**archive/sugar-devel/2012-**
> October/040187.html<http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040187.html>
>
> Will be in next build. If you do a test before, would be as well
> appreciated.
>
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Re: [FATAL] No popup appears, to ask for secrets when connecting to Wifi-Network in Neighborhood-View

[Ajay Garg]

Oops..
Just applied the fix, as per
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040187.html,
and the popup appears now !!

Thanks !!!

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Seems that the same issue happens on XO-1 as well, as reported at
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040173.html
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Steps to reproduce ::
>>
>> 1)
>> Flash the image http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os4/xo-1.75/31004o2.zd,
>> via ::
>>
>>  devalias fsdisk ext:0
>>  fs-update u:\31004o2.zd
>>
>>
>> 2)
>> Reboot.
>>
>>
>> 3)
>> Disable all Power-Management in "My Settings" -> "Power".
>>
>>
>> 4)
>> Reboot.
>>
>>
>> 5)
>> Try connecting to a protected Wifi-network via Neighborhood-View.
>> NO SECRETS-popup appears.
>>
>>
>> Please find attached "~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log"; and
>> "/var/log/messages".
>>
>> Also note that this is a persistentlt, consistent issue.
>>
>>
>> Please let me know if any other information is required.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ajay Garg
>> Dextrose Developer
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>>
>
>
>
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Re: [FATAL] No popup appears, to ask for secrets when connecting to Wifi-Network in Neighborhood-View

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Seems that the same issue happens on XO-1 as well, as reported at
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040173.html

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Steps to reproduce ::
>
> 1)
> Flash the image http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os4/xo-1.75/31004o2.zd,
> via ::
>
>  devalias fsdisk ext:0
>  fs-update u:\31004o2.zd
>
>
> 2)
> Reboot.
>
>
> 3)
> Disable all Power-Management in "My Settings" -> "Power".
>
>
> 4)
> Reboot.
>
>
> 5)
> Try connecting to a protected Wifi-network via Neighborhood-View.
> NO SECRETS-popup appears.
>
>
> Please find attached "~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log"; and
> "/var/log/messages".
>
> Also note that this is a persistentlt, consistent issue.
>
>
> Please let me know if any other information is required.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: Query regarding "bootfw.zip" for upgrading-firmware on XO-1.75

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On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrading_firmware, we need the
> bootfw.zip
> > for upgrading firmware (for XO-1.75 too I guess).
> > However, when I look into the links (for eg.
> > http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q4d18/), I do not see any bootfw.zip.
> >
> > Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
>
> Get it from the rpms that appear in rpmdropbox.laptop.org .


Thanks Martin, that was what was needed :)




> However,
>
>  - it gets re-build by OOB when it is signed
>  - the scheme is changing to have bootfw-.zip to allow unified
> XO-1.75/XO-4 builds in the future
>

Thanks for the info !!! :)




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Query regarding "bootfw.zip" for upgrading-firmware on XO-1.75

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrading_firmware, we need the bootfw.zip
for upgrading firmware (for XO-1.75 too I guess).
However, when I look into the links (for eg.
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q4d18/), I do not see any bootfw.zip.

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?


Will be grateful for a reply.


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Re: Full-Duplex-(Sound)-mode in XO-1.75

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On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > However, when I repeat the process on an XO-1.75, I do not hear back any
> > sound.
>
> This is a current limitation of XO-1.75 audio drivers. We are working
> hard to address it.
>


Thanks Martin for the info.

Please keep me posted on the development regarding this.
I think it would be REALLY interesting to see the solution for this, as it
would provide a great insight into the differences between processor
architectures.




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Full-Duplex-(Sound)-mode in XO-1.75

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

When I run

 "arecord | aplay"

on an XO-1, things work fine; I am able to hear back my own recorded sound
(as expected) :)



However, when I repeat the process on an XO-1.75, I do not hear back any
sound.

Music files (and other already recorded sounds) play well in general on the
XO-1.75.
It is only when the recording is done simultaneously, that the sound is not
heard.


Is it due to the lack of full-duplex-(sound)-mode in XO-1.75?
If yes, is there a plan to activate it? Or may be some other way to have it
working?


Will be grateful for any lights on this :)




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Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems starting the XO

[Ajay Garg]

Yup, I had the missing updated "sugar-toolkit" package.

But I have to say, that there wasn't any hint of any error-log  anywhere :-\
May be this could be improved sometime in the future :)


Thanks Jerry, Gonzalo and Ruben.


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

> I don't know what rpms are you using in dx,
> but if you want use the last code in sugar, should update sugar-toolkit
> too.
>
> yum update sugar
>
> should be a better option.
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Also, for brevity, I am attaching the python files of the culprit
>> "src/jarabe/journal" folder, as this could help in reproducing the issue.
>>
>> I am sorry for bothering everyone on the weekend; but this does not seem
>> to show any hints of the solution to the path :-\
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Martin.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Martin Langhoff <
>>> martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Ajay Garg 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Thanks Chris and Mikus for the replies.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ajay,
>>>>
>>>> please ansert cjb's question. It has a good chance of leading to your
>>>> answer. What deps are you ignoring? Why --force?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am sorry I did not give the full info :(
>>> Usually, for "development" testing, I use this method,  as long as only
>>> "sugar" changes  are involved.
>>>
>>> When I first  came across the issue, I followed the normal way, and
>>> installed the "sugar-control-frame" and "sugar-control-accessibility"
>>> packages too (dependencies of "sugar"). I installed all the three packages
>>> without "--force" then.
>>>
>>> However, there came to be no difference in behaviour (as long as XO-boot
>>> was concerned). :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also -- /var/log/olpc-dm* logs are likely to have important info.
>>>> Please post them.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find attached the entire "/var/log/" directory, of the
>>> "failed-to-launch-X-server" boot on the XO-1.
>>>
>>> Note that the names of the files are capitalized and shortened - it so
>>> happened when I copied the "var/log/" directory onto my pen-drive, from
>>> the shell login on the XO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Problems starting the XO

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On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Sat, 2012-09-01 at 10:27 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I flashed an image on an XO-1, after building it from osbuilder; and
> > booted the machine. The process went fine.
> >
> > Therafter, I upgraded the "sugar" package, via
> >   "sudo rpm
> > --force --nodeps --upgrade sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.rpm"
> >
> >
>
> Why didn't you just build the image with the new rpm?


Well, the code changes need to be tested on an XO first (as I said, that
things work fine on the sugar-emulator).
Only after the testing is passed on the XO, would the changes be comitted,
(fresh) rpms generated to the repos, which would then be pulled into the
image built from osbuilder.

If there is a way to pull the rpms directly into the image, I will  be more
than happy to do it. Please let me know if you have ideas regarding this :)




> Anyway, I got
> burnt building a test image with the latest DX3 rpms, you introduced a
> change in sugar that requires a newer version of sugar-toolkit but
> sugar's "rpm Requires:" are not set in to enforce a minimum version of
> sugar-toolkit.
>

Hmm.. my bad.
But

   * I guess sugar-toolkit (latest version) is also present in
the repos, which should have been pulled.

   * I think this is not the cause of the problem I am facing.


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



>
> Jerry
>
>
> >
> > After that, when I reboot, the sugar-session does not start :-\
> >
> >
> > I have
> >
> > * looked at "/var/log/messages", but nothing sugar specific logs
> > are there.
> > * tried out with the serial debugger; nothing specific here too.
> >
> >
> >
> > For brevity, here are the last few logs of /var/log/messages ::
> >
> > 
> > Sep  1 04:47:04 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   67.336082] dcon_freeze_store:
> > 0
> > Sep  1 04:47:11 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   74.967408] init: prefdm main
> > process endd
> > ed, respawning
> > Sep  1 04:47:12 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   75.065137] dcon_freeze_store:
> > 0
> > Sep  1 04:47:16 xo-05-2a-1f rtkit-daemon[1026]: Successfully made
> > thread 1295 off
> >  process 1295 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '500' high priority at
> > nice level --
> > 11.
> > Sep  1 04:47:26 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   89.818075] init: prefdm main
> > process endd
> > ed, respawning
> > Sep  1 04:47:26 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   89.890318] dcon_freeze_store:
> > 0
> > Sep  1 04:47:31 xo-05-2a-1f rtkit-daemon[1026]: Successfully made
> > thread 1425 off
> >  process 1425 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '500' high priority at
> > nice level --
> > 11.
> > Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.561223] init: prefdm
> > respawning too ff
> > ast, stopped
> > Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.638658] dcon_freeze_store:
> > 0
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas, as to where I can catch the point of failure?
> >
> >
> > I will be grateful for any help.
> >
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems starting the XO

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Chris and Mikus for the replies.

Well, I seem to have close down on the cause; but not close enough :(   The
solution is still not in sight.


I have been making some changes in the sugar-code, to have the "Transfer to
Many" feature working.
Things work fine on sugar-emulator; however, when I replace the files in
"src/jarabe/journal" folder on the XO, I fail to get the XO booting.


Now, the code is fairly big in amount; and it will take many days to
pin-point the issue (without any "log" info).
But one thing is sure, only when the files in "src/jarabe/journal" are
updated, does the XO fail to boot.


I tried one thing - I removed the directory "/home/olpc/.sugar", and
rebooted, but the XO still failed to boot.
One thing I did notice, is that on reboot, the directory
"/home/olpc/.sugar" gets re-created, with the journal re-indexed info; but
unfortunately, there still is NO "/home/olpc/.sugar/default/shell.log" :(


So, answers to the following two queries will help in nailing the issue ::

   a)
   Is it possible to (temporarily) stop the
re-indexing of the journal on reboot?
   If yes, that could give some hints as to
if this is where the problem occurs.

   b)
   Better still, is it possible to have
"shell.log" created as the first file after the directory
"/home/sugar/.sugar" is created?



Any further help will be highly appreciated :)


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay


On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Mikus Grinbergs  wrote:

> On 09/01/2012 12:21 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>
>> Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.561223] init: prefdm respawning
>> too ffast, stopped
>>
>
> I can't help you - but I've run into such a situation before.
>
> X (the display) is crashing - and is being automatically restarted, only
> to crash again (and again, and again. and ...).  I used to know how to stop
> these automatic restarts by commenting out something in /etc -- but things
> have changed an I don't know any longer.
>
> You being able to capture /var/log/messages implies that these automatic
> restarts were NOT interfering with you looking at the system.  [And it
> implies to me that you might manually "patch" kernel files to correct
> whatever is causing the crash.]
>
>
> What you did capture does not show the actual problem.  You will need to
> do additional looking - for instance, /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and
> /home/olpc/.sugar/default/**logs/shell.log  Perhaps capture 'dmesg'
>
>
> Wish you luck,  mikus
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems starting the XO

[Ajay Garg]

Hi Gonzalo.

Thanks for the reply.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:

> Any information in shell.log?


Nothing. That file does not even exist.

The only file in "/home/olpc/.sugar/default/logs/" is "datastore.log", but
it is empty :-\


Thanks again.

Regards,
Ajay



> Gonzalo
>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I flashed an image on an XO-1, after building it from osbuilder; and
>> booted the machine. The process went fine.
>>
>> Therafter, I upgraded the "sugar" package, via
>>   "sudo rpm --force
>> --nodeps --upgrade sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.rpm"
>>
>>
>> After that, when I reboot, the sugar-session does not start :-\
>>
>>
>> I have
>>
>> * looked at "/var/log/messages", but nothing sugar specific logs are
>> there.
>> * tried out with the serial debugger; nothing specific here too.
>>
>>
>>
>> For brevity, here are the last few logs of /var/log/messages ::
>>
>> 
>> Sep  1 04:47:04 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   67.336082] dcon_freeze_store: 0
>> Sep  1 04:47:11 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   74.967408] init: prefdm main
>> process endd
>> ed, respawning
>> Sep  1 04:47:12 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   75.065137] dcon_freeze_store: 0
>> Sep  1 04:47:16 xo-05-2a-1f rtkit-daemon[1026]: Successfully made thread
>> 1295 off
>>  process 1295 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '500' high priority at nice
>> level --
>> 11.
>> Sep  1 04:47:26 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   89.818075] init: prefdm main
>> process endd
>> ed, respawning
>> Sep  1 04:47:26 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   89.890318] dcon_freeze_store: 0
>> Sep  1 04:47:31 xo-05-2a-1f rtkit-daemon[1026]: Successfully made thread
>> 1425 off
>>  process 1425 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '500' high priority at nice
>> level --
>> 11.
>> Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.561223] init: prefdm
>> respawning too ff
>> ast, stopped
>> Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.638658] dcon_freeze_store: 0
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas, as to where I can catch the point of failure?
>>
>>
>> I will be grateful for any help.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>>
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Problems starting the XO

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I flashed an image on an XO-1, after building it from osbuilder; and booted
the machine. The process went fine.

Therafter, I upgraded the "sugar" package, via
  "sudo rpm --force
--nodeps --upgrade sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.rpm"


After that, when I reboot, the sugar-session does not start :-\


I have

* looked at "/var/log/messages", but nothing sugar specific logs are
there.
* tried out with the serial debugger; nothing specific here too.



For brevity, here are the last few logs of /var/log/messages ::


Sep  1 04:47:04 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   67.336082] dcon_freeze_store: 0
Sep  1 04:47:11 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   74.967408] init: prefdm main
process endd
ed, respawning
Sep  1 04:47:12 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   75.065137] dcon_freeze_store: 0
Sep  1 04:47:16 xo-05-2a-1f rtkit-daemon[1026]: Successfully made thread
1295 off
 process 1295 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '500' high priority at nice
level --
11.
Sep  1 04:47:26 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   89.818075] init: prefdm main
process endd
ed, respawning
Sep  1 04:47:26 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [   89.890318] dcon_freeze_store: 0
Sep  1 04:47:31 xo-05-2a-1f rtkit-daemon[1026]: Successfully made thread
1425 off
 process 1425 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '500' high priority at nice
level --
11.
Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.561223] init: prefdm respawning
too ff
ast, stopped
Sep  1 04:47:41 xo-05-2a-1f kernel: [  104.638658] dcon_freeze_store: 0




Any ideas, as to where I can catch the point of failure?


I will be grateful for any help.


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Git Repo for "Software Update"

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Hi all.

Kindly let know the location of the git repo, for the code that is used in
"Software Update" section.

I will be grateful.



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Re: Thanks Buddy !!!

[Ajay Garg]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Anish Mangal wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Thx, for the kind words, I really appreciate it!
>
> Although, I'm not going away from Sugar/OLPC anytime soon :-P,


Of course !!! We never said a goodbye :P





> just my
> involvement will be more as a volunteer with whatever time I can find.
>

That will be MORE THAN useful 
No doubt about that.



>
> Cheers and Happy hacking!
> Anish
>


Regards,
Ajay



>
> On Friday 17 August 2012 03:05 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Chris Leonard
> > mailto:cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Ajay Garg
> > mailto:a...@activitycentral.com>>
> > wrote:
> >> I would like to take this opportunity, in front of all the
> >> members
> > of our
> >> small family ( well.. ok, not so small a family :P ), to thank
> >> the
> > person,
> >> who has been responsible for my rejuvenation, and is the reason
> >> for my today's well-being state. He is, of course, Anish.
> >>
> >>
> >> A year back, Anish was the one who picked me up when I was
> >> completely, morally and mentally devastated. He said just one
> >> thing :: "Ajay,
> > please
> >> come back on track. I know your abilities". That was the thing
> > that gave me
> >> the kick; and today, here I am -- lucky to be coding for
> > inevitable, core
> >> requirements; and fully enjoying my work here at AC.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would also like to thank you all, for providing me the support,
> >> and (specifically AC) treating me so well.
> >>
> >>
> >> But as I say, the lion's share of my thanks, has to go to Anish
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Today, as Anish goes away to pursure his Masters, I recall all
> > those fun
> >> moments we had in college, and thereafter. Lately, our weekly
> >> meet-up at our "office" at a Cafe Coffee Day
> > outlet in
> >> Delhi, had become a topic of fun and laughter amongst ourselves,
> > and friends
> >> :D I will surely miss those "weekly" fun moments ... !!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Anish for everything ... Congratulations again for another
> >> feather in the cap ... And lastly - the most important thing -
> >> have fun :D :D :D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards, Ajay
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Ajay,
> >
> > You're story reminds me of another told by a character on an
> > American television drama called "West Wing":
> >
> > "This guy's walking down the street when he falls in a hole. The
> > walls are so steep he can't get out. A doctor passes by and the guy
> > shouts up, 'Hey you. Can you help me out?' The doctor writes a
> > prescription, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a
> > priest comes along and the guy shouts up, 'Father, I'm down in this
> > hole can you help me out?' The priest writes out a prayer, throws
> > it down in the hole and moves on Then a friend walks by, 'Hey, Joe,
> > it's me can you help me out?' And the friend jumps in the hole. Our
> > guy says, 'Are you stupid? Now we're both down here.' The friend
> > says, 'Yeah, but I've been down here before and I know the way
> > out.'"
> >
> > Anish sounds like that sort of friend that will jump down into
> > that hole and lead you out, which is a good friend indeed.
> >
> >
> > Indeed. A great friend !!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We seldom take enough time to acknowledge the mutual support we
> > provide to each other as a community, I'm glad Ajay has taken the
> > time to tell his story.
> >
> > Anish,
> >
> > It has been a great pleasure to work with you on improving the
> > i18n/L10n of Dextrose, and I know your studies will command all of
> > your attention; however, I will not say "good bye", but only "au
> > revoir" and best of luck in your new endeavour.
> >
> >
> > Indeed. A goodbye has a tendency to cause forgetfulness. But Anish
> > can never be forgotten.
> >
> > Phir milenge .. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards, Ajay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > cjl Sugar Labs Translation Team Coordinator
> >
> >
>
>
> - --
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> Dextrose Project Manager
> Activity Central
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Re: Thanks Buddy !!!

[Ajay Garg]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Chris Leonard wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > I would like to take this opportunity, in front of all the members of our
> > small family ( well.. ok, not so small a family :P ), to thank the
> person,
> > who has been responsible for my rejuvenation, and is the reason for my
> > today's well-being state. He is, of course, Anish.
> >
> >
> > A year back, Anish was the one who picked me up when I was completely,
> > morally and mentally devastated. He said just one thing :: "Ajay, please
> > come back on track. I know your abilities". That was the thing that gave
> me
> > the kick; and today, here I am -- lucky to be coding for inevitable, core
> > requirements; and fully enjoying my work here at AC.
> >
> >
> > I would also like to thank you all, for providing me the support, and
> > (specifically AC) treating me so well.
> >
> >
> > But as I say, the lion's share of my thanks, has to go to Anish :)
> >
> >
> > Today, as Anish goes away to pursure his Masters, I recall all those fun
> > moments we had in college, and thereafter.
> > Lately, our weekly meet-up at our "office" at a Cafe Coffee Day outlet in
> > Delhi, had become a topic of fun and laughter amongst ourselves, and
> friends
> > :D
> > I will surely miss those "weekly" fun moments ... !!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks Anish for everything ...
> > Congratulations again for another feather in the cap ...
> > And lastly - the most important thing - have fun :D :D :D
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ajay
> >
>
>
>
> Ajay,
>
> You're story reminds me of another told by a character on an American
> television drama called "West Wing":
>
> "This guy's walking down the street when he falls in a hole. The
> walls are so steep he can't get out.
> A doctor passes by and the guy shouts up, 'Hey you. Can you help
> me out?' The doctor writes a prescription, throws it down in the hole
> and moves on.
> Then a priest comes along and the guy shouts up, 'Father, I'm down
> in this hole can you help me out?' The priest writes out a prayer,
> throws it down in the hole and moves on
> Then a friend walks by, 'Hey, Joe, it's me can you help me out?'
> And the friend jumps in the hole. Our guy says, 'Are you stupid? Now
> we're both down here.' The friend says, 'Yeah, but I've been down here
> before and I know the way out.'"
>
> Anish sounds like that sort of friend that will jump down into that
> hole and lead you out, which is a good friend indeed.
>

Indeed. A great friend !!




> We seldom take enough time to acknowledge the mutual support we
> provide to each other as a community, I'm glad Ajay has taken the time
> to tell his story.
>
> Anish,
>
> It has been a great pleasure to work with you on improving the
> i18n/L10n of Dextrose, and I know your studies will command all of
> your attention; however, I will not say "good bye", but only "au
> revoir" and best of luck in your new endeavour.
>

Indeed. A goodbye has a tendency to cause forgetfulness.
But Anish can never be forgotten.

Phir milenge .. :)



Regards,
Ajay





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Thanks Buddy !!!

[Ajay Garg]

I would like to take this opportunity, in front of all the members of our
small family ( well.. ok, not so small a family :P ), to thank the person,
who has been responsible for my rejuvenation, and is the reason for my
today's well-being state. He is, of course, Anish.


A year back, Anish was the one who picked me up when I was completely,
morally and mentally devastated. He said just one thing :: "Ajay, please
come back on track. I know your abilities". That was the thing that gave me
the kick; and today, here I am -- lucky to be coding for inevitable, core
requirements; and fully enjoying my work here at AC.


I would also like to thank you all, for providing me the support, and
(specifically AC) treating me so well.


But as I say, the lion's share of my thanks, has to go to Anish :)


Today, as Anish goes away to pursure his Masters, I recall all those fun
moments we had in college, and thereafter.
Lately, our weekly meet-up at our "office" at a Cafe Coffee Day outlet in
Delhi, had become a topic of fun and laughter amongst ourselves, and
friends :D
I will surely miss those "weekly" fun moments ... !!!


Thanks Anish for everything ...
Congratulations again for another feather in the cap ...
And lastly - the most important thing - have fun :D :D :D



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Re: What is the difference between 'buddy-joined' and 'buddy-joined-activity' signals, with-respect-to activity-collaboration ?

[Ajay Garg]

I would actually want to add the 'joined' signal too, in my list of queries.
So, I am now confused, as to what is the difference between ::


"buddy-joined"
"buddy-joined-activity"
"joined"


Regards,
Ajay


On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Under what circumstances, is the "buddy-joined" signal used; and in what
> circumstances is the "buddy-joined-activity" signal used?
> I ask this, because a simple "grep" on the activities-code-directories,
> lists these two signals, which hint at the processing required for
> buddies-joining-activities.
>
> Just a simple explanation of the difference between the two signals will
> do; comprehending code will then be a lot easier :P
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
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[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

Under what circumstances, is the "buddy-joined" signal used; and in what
circumstances is the "buddy-joined-activity" signal used?
I ask this, because a simple "grep" on the activities-code-directories,
lists these two signals, which hint at the processing required for
buddies-joining-activities.

Just a simple explanation of the difference between the two signals will
do; comprehending code will then be a lot easier :P


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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Sat, 2012-07-14 at 15:56 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> > Thanks Jerry, Anish.
> >
> > That was it.
> > Removing the "glibc-devel" package from "/etc/yum/olpc-exclude" did
> > the trick.
> >
> > But me just curious, why is "/etc/yum/olpc-exclude" needed?
> >
>
> The olpc released rpms may be a fork of the fedora code and a newer rpm
> from fedora's updates repo may undo the changes introduced by forked
> package. The kernel and firmware packages install paths won't match
> where the files really live on the XO due to OOB's modifications to
> the /boot directory.
>
> >
> > [
> > Also, on a side-note, my original issue of compiling "avahi" on ARM
> > still remains unsolved ::
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/avahi/2012-July/002167.html
> > ]
> >
>
> Think something maybe missing from your build environment, have you met
> all the BuildRequires dependencies from the spec file? There maybe a
> undeclared BuildRequires, have you tried "yum groupinstall devel*tools"

and/or "yum groupinstall devel*libs"?
>


Thanks Champ.

"yum groupinstall devel*tools" proved to be enough !!



The ARM RPMS have been uploaded (after full testing) at ::
http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/platforms/f14/RPMS/armv5tel/
http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/platforms/f17/RPMS/armv7hl/



Note that the F17 packages were built on the image, downloaded from
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/candidate/12.1.0-18/21018o2.zd, and
installed on XO-1.75.



Again, a big thanks to Jerry !!




Thanks and Regards,
Ajay





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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Jerry, Anish.

That was it.
Removing the "glibc-devel" package from "/etc/yum/olpc-exclude" did the
trick.

But me just curious, why is "/etc/yum/olpc-exclude" needed?


[
Also, on a side-note, my original issue of compiling "avahi" on ARM still
remains unsolved ::
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/avahi/2012-July/002167.html
]


Regards,
Ajay



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> Most likely that is it, the exclude= list is created from the list of rpms
> that are not found in fedora's/koji's repos.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On 12 July 2012 15:50, Anish Mangal  wrote:
>
>> could it be a problem with mirros?
>>
>> http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dx3/rpms/i386/os/
>>
>> btw, there are a few g libc rpm's present there ^^ (dx repo) but i386
>> arch. I have to check why they were created. Don't think they should
>> be blocking the update though.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Jon,
>> >
>> > Doing "sudo yum clean all", followed by "sudo yum list glibc*" has the
>> same
>> > result.
>> >
>> > Also, all packages at
>> > http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS are 0 bytes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jon Nettleton > >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks Jon for the reply.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is the output ::
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> #
>> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*
>> >> >
>> >> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly
>> >> > Installed Packages
>> >> > glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
>> >> > glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> #
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Oh that is very strange because the package does exist there.
>> >> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS
>> >>
>> >> perhaps you should try a sudo yum clean all, then sudo yum list
>> 'glibc*'
>> >>
>> >> -Jon
>> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

Jon,

Doing "sudo yum clean all", followed by "sudo yum list glibc*" has the same
result.

Also, all packages at
http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS are 0 bytes.


On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Thanks Jon for the reply.
> >
> > Here is the output ::
> >
> >
> >
> #
> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*
> >
> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly
> > Installed Packages
> > glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
> > glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
> >
> #
> >
>
> Oh that is very strange because the package does exist there.
> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS
>
> perhaps you should try a sudo yum clean all, then sudo yum list 'glibc*'
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Jon for the reply.

Here is the output ::


#
[olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*

Loaded plugins: downloadonly
Installed Packages
glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
#


I will be happy to carry out any more tests :)


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all.
> >>> >
> >>> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
> >>> >
> >>> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent
> >>> > packages.
> >>> >
> >>> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
> >>> > repos
> >>> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but
> even
> >>> > that fails,  with no error message :\
> >>> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > So,
> >>> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> >>> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem,
> as I
> >>> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
> >>> > that
> >>> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > For brevity,
> >>> >
> >>> > a)
> >>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
> >>> >
> >>> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >>> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > b)
> >>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
> >>> >
> >>> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain
> 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916
> >>> > #1
> >>> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks in advance..
> >>>
> >>> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
> >>> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course yes.
> >>
> >> If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to
> me.
> >
> > It's in the fedora repositories.
>
> Please verify your date and time are up to date.  Having an incorrect
> system time can cause
> the SSL verification on the yum repo get to fail.  Also if you can not
> install glibc-devel via yum
> please post the output of yum list 'glibc*' so we can evaluate it.  We
> obviously want to fix this
> if it is a problem.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

Peter,

Could you let me know which repo will solve the purpose?

ls /etc/yum.repos.d says ::

dextrose-freeworld.rep
dextrose-next.repo
dextrose.repo
fedora.rep
fedora-updates.repo
fedora-updates-testing.repo
olpc-f14.repp
olpc-f14-xo1.75.repo

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi all.
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
> >> >
> >> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent
> >> > packages.
> >> >
> >> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
> >> > repos
> >> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but
> even
> >> > that fails,  with no error message :\
> >> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So,
> >> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> >> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as
> I
> >> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
> >> > that
> >> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For brevity,
> >> >
> >> > a)
> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
> >> >
> >> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > b)
> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
> >> >
> >> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916
> >> > #1
> >> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance..
> >>
> >> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
> >> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
> >
> >
> > Of course yes.
> >
> > If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to me.
>
> It's in the fedora repositories.
>
> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
> >
> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent packages.
> >
> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
> repos
> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
> >
> >
> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but even
> > that fails,  with no error message :\
> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
> >
> >
> > So,
> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as I
> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
> that
> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For brevity,
> >
> > a)
> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
> >
> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > b)
> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
> >
> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916 #1
> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance..
>
> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
>

Of course yes.

If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to me.


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



>
> Peter
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"glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.

Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent packages.

Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM repos
(for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!


I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but even
that fails,  with no error message :\
Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!


So,
I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
"glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as I
believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least that
is what the "glibc.spec" file says).




For brevity,

a)
[olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc

glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel




b)
[olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a

Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916 #1
PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux






Thanks in advance..


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Re: [Dextrose] Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

I am sorry for being pompous.

Posted to Avahi ::
http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01898.html


Regards,
Ajay

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >> So perhaps Telepathy-Salut should be told to contact its known nodes
> >> regularly, and prune stale entries?
>
> > Don't know if that would make a difference, because either ways, a
> machine
> > would send a (polling) signal to all the machines on the network, all of
>
> It would constrain the mess to our use case, and leave everyone else's
> code and use cases alone.
>
> A multicast "I'm here" would also do it, perhaps with less noise.
> Either way, we need to nag Salut devs on this.
>
> cheers,
>
>
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Re: [Dextrose] Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > More update (from Avahi) :
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01896.html
>
> So perhaps Telepathy-Salut should be told to contact its known nodes
> regularly, and prune stale entries?
>


Don't know if that would make a difference, because either ways, a machine
would send a (polling) signal to all the machines on the network, all of
which are known to it. That is, if there are N machines connected to a
(wifi) telepathy-salut network, each machine would be seeing the other N-1
machines; and each machine would be sending the (polling) signal to each of
the N-1 machines, be it in client-mode or server-mode.







>
> As they state, mDNS & DNS-SD are in use in fairly large networks with
> lots of nodes, so they have to be rather careful in not being too
> chatty.
>
> In our application of Telepathy/Salut, which in turn (mis?)uses
> mDNS/DNS-SD, we *know* that it only works passably with a small number
> of nodes,

so we are prepared to make it a bit chattier. It's only a
> shade more of chatty.
>

+1.
Especially more so, if we would be solving a major use-case :)




>
> cheers,
>
>
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Re: Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

More update (from Avahi) :
http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01896.html

Also. updated the upstream bug-id ::
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51501#c11


Regards,
Ajay


On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:

> Heard back from Avahi at ::
> http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01893.html
>
> Nothing very useful I guess; anyways I gave a reply with my viewpoint ::
> http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01895.html
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Ajay
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:
>
>> Thanks Martin.
>>
>> Passed on the info to Avahi guys at
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01892.html
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01892.html
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Martin Langhoff <
>> martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ajay Garg 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Just sent them a notification :)
>>>
>>> Ok, that's a start.
>>>
>>> > Reason is that, because "avahi-daemon" requires "avahi-core" to
>>> complete its
>>> > linking process, whereas "avahi-core" would need "avahi-daemon" to
>>> complete
>>> > its linking process (since the two values will be read from the
>>> context of
>>> > "avahi-daemon").
>>> >
>>> > That puts us in a catch-22 situation.
>>>
>>> Valid concern. I'd say do ask about that to the Avahi developers.
>>>
>>> My practical concern is that it may be tricky for your patch, as it is
>>> today, to land upstream. The sooner we hear from avahi devs, the
>>> better..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> m
>>> --
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>>>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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Re: Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

Heard back from Avahi at ::
http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01893.html

Nothing very useful I guess; anyways I gave a reply with my viewpoint ::
http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01895.html



Regards,
Ajay


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Thanks Martin.
>
> Passed on the info to Avahi guys at
> http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01892.html
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
>
>
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01892.html
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Martin Langhoff <
> martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Just sent them a notification :)
>>
>> Ok, that's a start.
>>
>> > Reason is that, because "avahi-daemon" requires "avahi-core" to
>> complete its
>> > linking process, whereas "avahi-core" would need "avahi-daemon" to
>> complete
>> > its linking process (since the two values will be read from the context
>> of
>> > "avahi-daemon").
>> >
>> > That puts us in a catch-22 situation.
>>
>> Valid concern. I'd say do ask about that to the Avahi developers.
>>
>> My practical concern is that it may be tricky for your patch, as it is
>> today, to land upstream. The sooner we hear from avahi devs, the
>> better..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> m
>> --
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>>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
>>  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
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Re: Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Martin.

Passed on the info to Avahi guys at
http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01892.html

Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01892.html

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Just sent them a notification :)
>
> Ok, that's a start.
>
> > Reason is that, because "avahi-daemon" requires "avahi-core" to complete
> its
> > linking process, whereas "avahi-core" would need "avahi-daemon" to
> complete
> > its linking process (since the two values will be read from the context
> of
> > "avahi-daemon").
> >
> > That puts us in a catch-22 situation.
>
> Valid concern. I'd say do ask about that to the Avahi developers.
>
> My practical concern is that it may be tricky for your patch, as it is
> today, to land upstream. The sooner we hear from avahi devs, the
> better..
>
>
>
>
> m
> --
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Re: Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

The notification link (to avahi)  ::

http://www.mail-archive.com/avahi@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01891.html


Regards,
Ajay

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Martin Langhoff  > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > The patch link was embedded later into the email ::
>> >
>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/common-patch-for-f14-and-f17/customize-avahi-default-ttl-values.patch
>>
>> Ah, thanks! Have you shown this patch to Avahi hackers?
>>
>
>
> Just sent them a notification :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Avahi-daemon has /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf, which is read by
>> load_config_file() in main.c . Perhaps that is better than
>>
>> -#define AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL_HOST_NAME (120)
>> +#define AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL_HOST_NAME get_avahi_default_ttl_host_name()
>>
>
>
> Bang on 
>
> That was the first thing I had tried.
>
> The "#defines" are needed in all the avahi-modules (avahi-core,
> avahi-daemon, etc.), so it needs to have itself pre-processed from the
> common "avahi-common" module. Thankfully, the two "#defines" are present in
> "avahi-common/defs.h".
>
> This "avahi-common" is the basic common module, which is linked to other
> modules (avahi-core, avahi-daemon, etc)
>
> So far, so good.
>
>
> But.. the problem starts now..
>
> If the two additional values are read from the "static int
> load_config_file(DaemonConfig *c)" method in "avahi-daemon/main.c" (via
> "/etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf"), that does not work out.
> Reason is that, because "avahi-daemon" requires "avahi-core" to complete
> its linking process, whereas "avahi-core" would need "avahi-daemon" to
> complete its linking process (since the two values will be read from the
> context of "avahi-daemon").
>
> That puts us in a catch-22 situation.
>
> So, actually, the right place to load the complete config is in
> "avahi-common" module; but as of now, even in F17, the "static int
> load_config_file(DaemonConfig *c)" method resides in the "avahi-daemon"
> module :\
>
> Anyways, I loaded the two required variables (without needing the methods
> of "avahi-daemon" module) from the context of "avahi-common".
>
>
>
>> ?
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> m
>> --
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>
>
>
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Re: Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > The patch link was embedded later into the email ::
> >
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/common-patch-for-f14-and-f17/customize-avahi-default-ttl-values.patch
>
> Ah, thanks! Have you shown this patch to Avahi hackers?
>


Just sent them a notification :)






>
> Avahi-daemon has /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf, which is read by
> load_config_file() in main.c . Perhaps that is better than
>
> -#define AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL_HOST_NAME (120)
> +#define AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL_HOST_NAME get_avahi_default_ttl_host_name()
>


Bang on 

That was the first thing I had tried.

The "#defines" are needed in all the avahi-modules (avahi-core,
avahi-daemon, etc.), so it needs to have itself pre-processed from the
common "avahi-common" module. Thankfully, the two "#defines" are present in
"avahi-common/defs.h".

This "avahi-common" is the basic common module, which is linked to other
modules (avahi-core, avahi-daemon, etc)

So far, so good.


But.. the problem starts now..

If the two additional values are read from the "static int
load_config_file(DaemonConfig *c)" method in "avahi-daemon/main.c" (via
"/etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf"), that does not work out.
Reason is that, because "avahi-daemon" requires "avahi-core" to complete
its linking process, whereas "avahi-core" would need "avahi-daemon" to
complete its linking process (since the two values will be read from the
context of "avahi-daemon").

That puts us in a catch-22 situation.

So, actually, the right place to load the complete config is in
"avahi-common" module; but as of now, even in F17, the "static int
load_config_file(DaemonConfig *c)" method resides in the "avahi-daemon"
module :\

Anyways, I loaded the two required variables (without needing the methods
of "avahi-daemon" module) from the context of "avahi-common".



> ?
>
> cheers,
>
>
>
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Re: Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

Hi Martin.

The patch link was embedded later into the email ::
http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/common-patch-for-f14-and-f17/customize-avahi-default-ttl-values.patch


Also, updating the tickets with the patch.. (sorry about not doing that
before..).


Also, the details are like this ::

a)
The patch is applied to Avahi, and the patched (avahi) rpms upgraded.

The (required 6) pre-compiled rpms are present at ::
http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/platforms/f14/RPMS/
http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/platforms/f17/RPMS/


b)
This patch IS responsible for adding two files to "/etc/avahi" ::

* "/etc/avahi/avahi-default-ttl.conf"
* "/etc/avahi/avahi-default-ttl-host-name.conf"


c)
As per the usecase, the XO-2 disapplears from XO-1's neighborhood view,
after the number of seconds specified in the file
"/etc/avahi/avahi-default-ttl.conf".


d)
I was not able to any "observable" difference between the two "#defines" -
AVAH-DEFAULT-TTL, and AVAHI-DEFAULT-TTL-HOST-NAME.
So, for all purposes, they may be configured the same value (via the two
"conf" files).


e)
Actually specifying the values in the two conf files, would have to be done
at the OOB stage (as correctly identified by Martin).
A value of about 20 seconds (for each) would be good.



Thanks and Regards,
Ajay





On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > I have written a patch for "Avahi", that solves the bugs
> >
> > [UPSTREAM] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3748
> > [DOWNSTREAM]   http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1332
>
> Thanks for working on this.
>
> Neither link has a patch. Where is the patch, as a text file?
>
> Reading the description, first you talk about a patch to avahi, but
> then you say it's configurable via files in /etc, so I'd expect a
> patch to OOB.
>
> If it is tweakable from telepathy or Sugar, then maybe a patch to
> Sugar, where it sets up the properties of the telepathy connection...?
>
> cheers,
>
>
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Patch written for "Presence not updated, when client disconencts from telepathy-salut"

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

I have written a patch for "Avahi", that solves the bugs

[UPSTREAM] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3748
[DOWNSTREAM]   http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1332



###


For brevity, I am specifying the use-case ::

a)
XO-1 connects to telepathy-salut.

b)
XO-2 connects to telepathy-salut. Both XO-1,and XO-2, are able to see each
other in the neighborhood-view.

c)
XO-1 disconnects. XO-2 is now no more seen in XO-1's neighborhhod-view, BUT
XO-1 IS CONTINUED TO BE SEEN IN XO-2'S NEIGHBORHOOD-VIEW.


The expected behaviour is that XO-1 should also disappear from XO-2's
neighborhood-view after some time.


###


The upstream bug id is ::

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/process_bug.cgi


###


The patch is located at ::

http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/common-patch-for-f14-and-f17/customize-avahi-default-ttl-values.patch




For brevity, I am pasting the patch description


Please refer https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51501

History ::
===

As pointed out by Simon McVittie in
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51501#c4,
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-15#section-10
suggests that the Time-To-Live (TT) of the mDNS record is likely to be
120 seconds.

However, for all purposes, in whatever testing I came across Avahi,
the TTL in effect was
75 minutes , which seemed a bit too late a notification of
buddy-going-disconnected.



Fix ::
==
Decrease the Time-To-Live (TTL).



Solution ::
===

Obviously, the easiest solution is to set the appropriate values in
  #define AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL_HOST_NAME
  #define AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL

However, this has the following caveats ::

(i)
It needs a re-compilation/re-packaging of avahi rpms, for every
change in the values. This is a major deployment headache.

(ii)
Also, there is no ideal "TTL" values.

The lesses the TTL values, more frequent multicast DNS packets will be exchanged
between a pair of peers, thus leading to more traffic.

However, too large a TTL value, would mean that the peer gets too late
a notification
of the buddy going disconnected.

Thus, ideal values can only be found out by testing in real-field.
This requires easy configuration of the TTL values, without needing to
re-compile the rpms.



Solution-Implementation ::
==

The cutomized TTL values will be read during "avahi-daemon" startup.

1.
AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL_HOST_NAME will be set to the value, contained in the
file "/etc/avahi/avahi-default-ttl-host-name.conf".

Default value is the same as before, i.e. 120 (seconds).


2.
AVAHI_DEFAULT_TTL will be set to the value, contained in the
file "/etc/avahi/avahi-default-ttl.conf".

Default value is the same as before, i.e. 4500 (seconds), which is equal to
75 minutes.



How to customize ::
===

a)
"sudo service avahi-daemon stop"

b)
Change the values in the corresponding conf files.

c)
"sudo service avahi-daemon start"




AUTHOR: Ajay Garg 


Thanks to ::

Will Thompson
Simon McVittie   
Xavier Claessens 


###


The pre-compiled RPMS (patched), both for F14 and F17, are available at ::

http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/platforms/f14/RPMS/
http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/freedesktop_bug_51501/platforms/f17/RPMS/


###


I have done the preliminary testings, and things seem to work as expected.
In particular, now the XO-2 disapplears from XO-1's neighborhood view,
after the number of seconds specified in the file
"/etc/avahi/avahi-default-ttl.conf".


###



Kindly test and review the patch, as this solves a pretty important issue :)



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Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

Thanks Jerry and Kevin.

That was it !!!


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:

> On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 19:16 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
> > Forgot to tell the link in the previous mail.
> > I used http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/885/, to download
> > the ".img", ".crc" and ".fs.zip".
> >
> >
>
> The F17 based series is called 12.1.0 with the latest image in:
>
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/12.1.0-15/
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> > Regards,
> > Ajay
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Ajay Garg 
> > wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1)
> > I downloaded ".img", ".crc", and ".fs.zip".
> >
> > 2)
> > Renamed os885.img.fs.zip to fs.zip.
> >
> > 3)
> > Installed the image on XO-1, by pressing the game keys.
> >
> >
> > However, searching for NM rpm, gives the following info ::
> >
> > [olpc@xo-05-2a-1f ~]$ rpm -qa | grep anager
> >
> > NetworkManager-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
> > ModemManager-0.4.998-1.git20110706.fc14.i686
> > NetworkManager-glib-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
> > NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
> >
> > Is this expected?
> > If yes, where can I get a F17/NM0.9 based XO-1 image?
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Ajay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Anish Mangal
> >  wrote:
> > OLPC regularly releases (and announces on the
> > olpc-devel mailing list)
> >     development images on download.laptop.org
> >
> > I think the release candidate version of their
> > f17/0.96 builds is
> > available here:
> > http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Ajay Garg
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > (Sorry if I am asking a very stupid question)
> > >
> > > Is there a link of an image (in ".img" + ".crc"
> > format, for XO-1), that is
> > > based on F17, and contains sugar with NM 0.9?
> > > I tried at http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/,
> > but apparently could not
> > > find anything useful.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, a OS builder for the same end-results
> > would also be good.
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > Ajay
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Ajay Garg
> >  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jon Nettleton
> > 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ajay Garg
> > 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM, James Cameron
> > 
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Paul
> > Fox wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > ajay wrote:
> > >>> >> >  > Hi Paul.
> > >>> >> >  >
> > >>> >> >  > Well, I am doing development on
> > sugar-jhbuild F17.
> > >>> >> >  >
> > >>> >> >  > So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish
> > to have the sugar
> > >>> >> >  > netw

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

Forgot to tell the link in the previous mail.
I used http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/885/, to download the
".img", ".crc" and ".fs.zip".


Regards,
Ajay

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> 1)
> I downloaded ".img", ".crc", and ".fs.zip".
>
> 2)
> Renamed os885.img.fs.zip to fs.zip.
>
> 3)
> Installed the image on XO-1, by pressing the game keys.
>
>
> However, searching for NM rpm, gives the following info ::
>
> [olpc@xo-05-2a-1f ~]$ rpm -qa | grep anager
>
> NetworkManager-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
> ModemManager-0.4.998-1.git20110706.fc14.i686
> NetworkManager-glib-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
> NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
>
> Is this expected?
> If yes, where can I get a F17/NM0.9 based XO-1 image?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Anish Mangal wrote:
>
>> OLPC regularly releases (and announces on the olpc-devel mailing list)
>> development images on download.laptop.org
>>
>> I think the release candidate version of their f17/0.96 builds is
>> available here:
>> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all.
>> >
>> > (Sorry if I am asking a very stupid question)
>> >
>> > Is there a link of an image (in ".img" + ".crc" format, for XO-1), that
>> is
>> > based on F17, and contains sugar with NM 0.9?
>> > I tried at http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/, but apparently could
>> not
>> > find anything useful.
>> >
>> > Alternatively, a OS builder for the same end-results would also be good.
>> >
>> > Thanks and Regards,
>> > Ajay
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jon Nettleton <
>> jon.nettle...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM, James Cameron 
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > ajay wrote:
>> >>> >> >  > Hi Paul.
>> >>> >> >  >
>> >>> >> >  > Well, I am doing development on sugar-jhbuild F17.
>> >>> >> >  >
>> >>> >> >  > So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish to have the sugar
>> >>> >> >  > network-authentication popup pop up (if at all), and not the
>> >>> >> > gnome
>> >>> >> > one.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > ah.  sugar vs.  gnome.  now that i understand your problem, i
>> find i
>> >>> >> > can be of no help whatsoever.  sorry!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Indeed, I have no idea either.  Running GNOME at the same time as
>> >>> >> Sugar means NetworkManager might behave differently, as it has
>> >>> >> multiple clients.  So I never wanted to try that.  Because it would
>> >>> >> not be representative of the typical usage.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Exactly 
>> >>>
>> >>> This functionality was just introduced in F17, NetworkManager 0.9.x.
>> >>> Previously you could only have one client connected to the
>> >>> NetworkManager daemon at a time.  Now the behavior has changed
>> >>> to make it work better with fast-user-switching.
>> >>>
>> >>> This new connection sharing also causes secrets to be handled
>> >>> differently.  Previously everything was stored in your gnome-keyring,
>> >>> now by default secrets are stored at the system level.  A client
>> >>> can register to be a secrets provider however I don't know if this has
>> >>> been implemented in sugar yet.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When I was last testing Sugar and NetworkManager interaction, I
>> did it
>> >>> >> on a system, such as an XO, without GNOME running.  I edited the
>> >>> >> source files live and restarted Sugar to see the changes.  When I
>> had
>> >>> >> finished, I copied my changes out of the target and into git using
>> >>> >> ssh.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Well, that would indeed work. Thanks for the idea .. :D :D
>> >>>
>> >>> I may have more information about this this weekend.  I currently
>> >>> have an unstable network connection and the NetworkManager
>> >>> password popups are annoying me.  If I find anything interesting
>> >>> I will update everyone.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Waiting for anything interesting, whole heartedly !! :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Ajay
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -Jon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

Hi.

1)
I downloaded ".img", ".crc", and ".fs.zip".

2)
Renamed os885.img.fs.zip to fs.zip.

3)
Installed the image on XO-1, by pressing the game keys.


However, searching for NM rpm, gives the following info ::

[olpc@xo-05-2a-1f ~]$ rpm -qa | grep anager

NetworkManager-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
ModemManager-0.4.998-1.git20110706.fc14.i686
NetworkManager-glib-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686
NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.5.92-1.git20110927.fc14.i686

Is this expected?
If yes, where can I get a F17/NM0.9 based XO-1 image?

Thanks and Regards,
Ajay




On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Anish Mangal  wrote:

> OLPC regularly releases (and announces on the olpc-devel mailing list)
> development images on download.laptop.org
>
> I think the release candidate version of their f17/0.96 builds is
> available here:
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > (Sorry if I am asking a very stupid question)
> >
> > Is there a link of an image (in ".img" + ".crc" format, for XO-1), that
> is
> > based on F17, and contains sugar with NM 0.9?
> > I tried at http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/, but apparently could
> not
> > find anything useful.
> >
> > Alternatively, a OS builder for the same end-results would also be good.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Ajay
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jon Nettleton  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ajay Garg 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM, James Cameron 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ajay wrote:
> >>> >> >  > Hi Paul.
> >>> >> >  >
> >>> >> >  > Well, I am doing development on sugar-jhbuild F17.
> >>> >> >  >
> >>> >> >  > So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish to have the sugar
> >>> >> >  > network-authentication popup pop up (if at all), and not the
> >>> >> > gnome
> >>> >> > one.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ah.  sugar vs.  gnome.  now that i understand your problem, i
> find i
> >>> >> > can be of no help whatsoever.  sorry!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Indeed, I have no idea either.  Running GNOME at the same time as
> >>> >> Sugar means NetworkManager might behave differently, as it has
> >>> >> multiple clients.  So I never wanted to try that.  Because it would
> >>> >> not be representative of the typical usage.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Exactly 
> >>>
> >>> This functionality was just introduced in F17, NetworkManager 0.9.x.
> >>> Previously you could only have one client connected to the
> >>> NetworkManager daemon at a time.  Now the behavior has changed
> >>> to make it work better with fast-user-switching.
> >>>
> >>> This new connection sharing also causes secrets to be handled
> >>> differently.  Previously everything was stored in your gnome-keyring,
> >>> now by default secrets are stored at the system level.  A client
> >>> can register to be a secrets provider however I don't know if this has
> >>> been implemented in sugar yet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When I was last testing Sugar and NetworkManager interaction, I did
> it
> >>> >> on a system, such as an XO, without GNOME running.  I edited the
> >>> >> source files live and restarted Sugar to see the changes.  When I
> had
> >>> >> finished, I copied my changes out of the target and into git using
> >>> >> ssh.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Well, that would indeed work. Thanks for the idea .. :D :D
> >>>
> >>> I may have more information about this this weekend.  I currently
> >>> have an unstable network connection and the NetworkManager
> >>> password popups are annoying me.  If I find anything interesting
> >>> I will update everyone.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Waiting for anything interesting, whole heartedly !! :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ajay
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Jon
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

Hi all.

(Sorry if I am asking a very stupid question)

Is there a link of an image (in ".img" + ".crc" format, for XO-1), that is
based on F17, and contains sugar with NM 0.9?
I tried at http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/, but apparently could not
find anything useful.

Alternatively, a OS builder for the same end-results would also be good.

Thanks and Regards,
Ajay

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM, James Cameron 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ajay wrote:
>> >> >  > Hi Paul.
>> >> >  >
>> >> >  > Well, I am doing development on sugar-jhbuild F17.
>> >> >  >
>> >> >  > So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish to have the sugar
>> >> >  > network-authentication popup pop up (if at all), and not the gnome
>> >> > one.
>> >> >
>> >> > ah.  sugar vs.  gnome.  now that i understand your problem, i find i
>> >> > can be of no help whatsoever.  sorry!
>> >>
>> >> Indeed, I have no idea either.  Running GNOME at the same time as
>> >> Sugar means NetworkManager might behave differently, as it has
>> >> multiple clients.  So I never wanted to try that.  Because it would
>> >> not be representative of the typical usage.
>> >
>> >
>> > Exactly 
>>
>> This functionality was just introduced in F17, NetworkManager 0.9.x.
>> Previously you could only have one client connected to the
>> NetworkManager daemon at a time.  Now the behavior has changed
>> to make it work better with fast-user-switching.
>>
>> This new connection sharing also causes secrets to be handled
>> differently.  Previously everything was stored in your gnome-keyring,
>> now by default secrets are stored at the system level.  A client
>> can register to be a secrets provider however I don't know if this has
>> been implemented in sugar yet.
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> When I was last testing Sugar and NetworkManager interaction, I did it
>> >> on a system, such as an XO, without GNOME running.  I edited the
>> >> source files live and restarted Sugar to see the changes.  When I had
>> >> finished, I copied my changes out of the target and into git using ssh.
>> >
>> >
>> > Well, that would indeed work. Thanks for the idea .. :D :D
>>
>> I may have more information about this this weekend.  I currently
>> have an unstable network connection and the NetworkManager
>> password popups are annoying me.  If I find anything interesting
>> I will update everyone.
>>
>
>
> Waiting for anything interesting, whole heartedly !! :)
>
>
> Regards,
> Ajay
>
>
>>
>> -Jon
>>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM, James Cameron  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ajay wrote:
> >> >  > Hi Paul.
> >> >  >
> >> >  > Well, I am doing development on sugar-jhbuild F17.
> >> >  >
> >> >  > So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish to have the sugar
> >> >  > network-authentication popup pop up (if at all), and not the gnome
> >> > one.
> >> >
> >> > ah.  sugar vs.  gnome.  now that i understand your problem, i find i
> >> > can be of no help whatsoever.  sorry!
> >>
> >> Indeed, I have no idea either.  Running GNOME at the same time as
> >> Sugar means NetworkManager might behave differently, as it has
> >> multiple clients.  So I never wanted to try that.  Because it would
> >> not be representative of the typical usage.
> >
> >
> > Exactly 
>
> This functionality was just introduced in F17, NetworkManager 0.9.x.
> Previously you could only have one client connected to the
> NetworkManager daemon at a time.  Now the behavior has changed
> to make it work better with fast-user-switching.
>
> This new connection sharing also causes secrets to be handled
> differently.  Previously everything was stored in your gnome-keyring,
> now by default secrets are stored at the system level.  A client
> can register to be a secrets provider however I don't know if this has
> been implemented in sugar yet.
>
>
> >>
> >>
> >> When I was last testing Sugar and NetworkManager interaction, I did it
> >> on a system, such as an XO, without GNOME running.  I edited the
> >> source files live and restarted Sugar to see the changes.  When I had
> >> finished, I copied my changes out of the target and into git using ssh.
> >
> >
> > Well, that would indeed work. Thanks for the idea .. :D :D
>
> I may have more information about this this weekend.  I currently
> have an unstable network connection and the NetworkManager
> password popups are annoying me.  If I find anything interesting
> I will update everyone.
>


Waiting for anything interesting, whole heartedly !! :)


Regards,
Ajay


>
> -Jon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
> >
> > ajay wrote:
> >  > Hi Paul.
> >  >
> >  > Well, I am doing development on sugar-jhbuild F17.
> >  >
> >  > So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish to have the sugar
> >  > network-authentication popup pop up (if at all), and not the gnome
> one.
> >
> > ah.  sugar vs.  gnome.  now that i understand your problem, i find i
> > can be of no help whatsoever.  sorry!
>
> Indeed, I have no idea either.  Running GNOME at the same time as
> Sugar means NetworkManager might behave differently, as it has
> multiple clients.  So I never wanted to try that.  Because it would
> not be representative of the typical usage.
>

Exactly 







>
> When I was last testing Sugar and NetworkManager interaction, I did it
> on a system, such as an XO, without GNOME running.  I edited the
> source files live and restarted Sugar to see the changes.  When I had
> finished, I copied my changes out of the target and into git using ssh.
>

Well, that would indeed work. Thanks for the idea .. :D :D



Regards,
Ajay




>
> Still, I think it sucks that I had to restart Sugar to see the
> changes.  Waste of time.
>
> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

Hi Paul.

Well, I am doing development on sugar-jhbuild F17.

So, after I launch sugar-emulator, I wish to have the sugar
network-authentication popup pop up (if at all), and not the gnome one.

In F14, doing "sudo killall nm-applet" served the purpose. Then, whenever I
launched sugar-emulator, only sugar network-authentication popup popped up
(if at all). No gnome popup popped up then :)


Could the same be achieved in F17?


Sorry for being unclear the last time around.


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Paul Fox  wrote:

>
> ajay wrote:
>  > Any ideas ?
>  > Please, Please.
>
> i'm confused.  when i get that dialog, it's because that network
> is secured, and requires wep or wpa authorization.
>
> what should happen instead?
>
> (or perhaps i'm completely misunderstanding you.)
>
> paul
>
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Ajay
>  >
>  > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > > Hi all.
>  > >
>  > > I am working on sugar on Fedora 17.
>  > > However, when I click on a wireless-icon in the 'Neighborhood-View',
> I get
>  > > the gnome-popup "Authentication Required By Wireless Network".
>  > >
>  > > How can I disable this gnome popup?
>  > >
>  > > On F14, doing "sudo killall nm-applet" is sufficient.
>  > > However, on F17, doing "sudo killall nm-applet" isn't  sufficient :(
>  > >
>  > > Any ideas please. I am really finding it irritating, that this
> gnome-popup
>  > > is interfering with the sugar experience.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Thanks and Regards,
>  > > Ajay
>  > >
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Re: How to disable "Authentication Required By Wireless Network" popup in Fedora 17

[Ajay Garg]

Any ideas ?
Please, Please.

Regards,
Ajay

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I am working on sugar on Fedora 17.
> However, when I click on a wireless-icon in the 'Neighborhood-View', I get
> the gnome-popup "Authentication Required By Wireless Network".
>
> How can I disable this gnome popup?
>
> On F14, doing "sudo killall nm-applet" is sufficient.
> However, on F17, doing "sudo killall nm-applet" isn't  sufficient :(
>
> Any ideas please. I am really finding it irritating, that this gnome-popup
> is interfering with the sugar experience.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
>
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