(Resubmission) Project hosting request: Lambda
1. Project name : Lambda
2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Lambda
3. One-line description : Lambda is a simple Lisp interpreter for
Sugar.
4. Longer description : Lambda is a simple Lisp interpreter for
Sugar which
: aims to be both fun for the beginning
programmer as
: well as simple enough to yield its
secrets to the
: curious student.
5. URLs of similar projects :
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#1 antoine Antoine van Gelder
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#2
#3
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7. Preferred development model
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Re: Project hosting request: xo-lambda
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: very cool! On 25 Sep 2008, at 04:10, Eben Eliason wrote: Agreed! I have been secretly wanting to play around with lisp myself, so I look forward to playing with this a lot. *grin* Tx guys! As a small nitpick, I'd recommend dropping 'XO' from the name. While I just discovered that I omitted this detail while discussing naming in the HIG, it doesn't really provide any useful information in the activity name itself. Moreover, since Sugar is quickly becoming available on various distributions, it's incorrect to tie Sugar activities to the XO itself, which is the name of the OLPC specific hardware. It would still be fine, of course, to refer to activities (especially those that are brethren of applications already found on other OSes) as, perhaps, "Sugar Lambda" to differentiate them in the public image, but even then it doesn't seem necessary to include it in the activity name itself. =) Good points, thank you Eben. Lambda activity it is! Shall I resubmit a hosting request with the name change ? PS. I'm somewhat unfamiliar with the project hosting process, but would there be a good place to introduce this type of information, so we can make things as simple as possible? Should we just mention this guideline/requirement on the wiki page (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting) or the application? I think the name is the only item on the application which needs to adhere to a guideline. However, we might link to the full HIG from that page anyway, and/or include a link to it in the project hosting response, to get budding developers pointed in the right direction. I would have caught it if it was mentioned on the Project_hosting wiki page. - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Project hosting request: xo-lambda
1. Project name : XO-Lambda
2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-Lambda
3. One-line description : XO-Lambda is a simple Lisp interpreter
for the OLPC XO-1
4. Longer description : XO-Lambda is a simple Lisp interpreter
for the OLPC XO-1
: which aims to be both fun for the
beginning programmer as
: well as simple enough to yield it's
secrets to the curious
: student.
5. URLs of similar projects :
6. Committer list
Please list the maintainer (lead developer) as the first entry.
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URLE-mail
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--
#1 antoine Antoine van Gelder
http://dev.laptop.org/~antoine/id_rsa.pub
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
#2
#3
...
If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please
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7. Preferred development model
[X] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to
the
project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
familiar to
CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
projects.
[ ] Maintainer-owned tree. Every developer creates his own git
tree, or
multiple git trees. He periodically asks the maintainer to
look at one
or more of these trees, and merge changes into the maintainer-
owned,
"main" tree. This is the model used by the Linux kernel, and is
well-suited to projects wishing to maintain a tighter control
on code
entering the main tree.
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directly,
as might be the case with a "discussion" tree, or a tree for an
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feature, you may send us such a request by e-mail, and we will set
up the
tree for you.
8. Set up a project mailing list:
[ ] Yes, named after our project name
[ ] Yes, named __
[X] No
When your project is just getting off the ground, we suggest you
eschew
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If you need multiple lists, let us know. We discourage having many
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10. Shell accounts
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and
list the usernames of the committers above needing shell access.
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Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository
> The analogy doesn't work. If I have C, I'll send the C. I have friends > who used to write APL and ship Ada as source, and their military > customers never complained. If the generated C is well-structured and > has the comments from the Smalltalk embedded, so that people can > understand it, what's the problem? What happens if I make my changes to that generated C and then try to submit those changes to the generated code back to the Squeak project? I think this is what Yoshiki means when he says: > if you send them C that's generated and call that your source, it's > the same > thing as writing your code in C and sending assembler as your 'source' > (assuming there was a cpu independant assembler) Free software is also the freedom to develop code with the source you are supposed to have access to. Otherwise you may have gotten some of the things that are necessary for software freedom, but you do not have all the things that will make it sufficient for you to have actual living breathing farting software freedom. Kind of like how freedom of speech may be a necessary part of political freedom but just because a politician is not messing with that freedom does not mean that s/he is not putting all the other sufficiencies for political freedom into the smoothie blender. PLUR kiddies and shout it out for all to hear: "Smalltalk inspect." - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)
On 19 May 2008, at 19:21, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Are you serious? Are you really a Republican? No Child's Behind Left >> is the worst disaster in education in decades, as John Holt would >> have >> been the first to point out if he had lived long enough. Who claims >> that NCLB is raising skills, as opposed to test scores? With what >> evidence? The real skills aren't on the standardized tests. > > Accountability and measurement is critical. Without that, you have > an unreliable system that produces a few winners and many losers. > While I regret that NCLB doesn't do much for the brightest, it is > extremely important for society that we raise the educational level > of the low acheivers. * What has gone wrong that teaching to the test so often ends up being seen as being in conflict with teaching to the skills ? To the extent that often teaching to the skills is neglected ? * What has gone wrong that the claim "it is extremely important for society that we raise the educational level of the low achievers" is so often used as the justification for "a system which does not do much for the brightest" as if this the only way things can possibly be ? - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.
On 22 Apr 2008, at 22:52, Aaron Konstam wrote: > How may developers want to shift to developing for an XP based, rather > than a sugar based , platform? How many developers want to shift to developing for a constructivist language, rather than having to make an agonizing choice between a wide range of commodity operating systems ? http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1762 - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO
Albert Cahalan wrote: > On Jan 21, 2008 12:27 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (b) as has been pointed out repeatedly, CSound is an open standard >> (which incidentally predates the MIDI standard). > > It may be open, but it isn't much of a standard. > I've only found one implementation, csound itself. > There are no hardware implementations. http://www.epigon.in/pdf/studyRoom1.pdf Might help a little to address your issues above ? As a musician, I don't know of anything else that comes close - and that includes some pretty expensive proprietary systems with pretty blinged-out user interfaces! Please don't make me have to go back to midi :) - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: > I;m sorry... but your accusing the folks whoa re against censorship of > talking in abstracts? Straw man. [1] You accuse me of accusing folk who are against censorship of talking abstract and then because censorship is bad you claim that my point is invalid. I am not advocating censorship. - antoine [1] http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Edward Cherlin wrote: > Mr. van Gelder, I respectfully request that you read my message, over > and over if necessary, until you understand the severity of your > egregious and insulting error. Then apologize, not just to me, but to > the others on this list who have had it far worse, and are even more > fed up than I am with those whose ignorance and lack of imagination > causes them such pain. My apologies Mr Cherlin and to the others on this list. I jumped to a conclusion regarding the purpose of Mr Cherlin's presence in South Korea which was entirely and completely erroneous. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Albert Cahalan wrote: > On Jan 18, 2008 4:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Albert Cahalan wrote: >>> Sorry to hear about your war. >> Attitudes such as this sir, is the reason that America is viewed by many >> nations as a belligerent and imperialistic monster. > > I'm sure you misinterpreted me. Maybe you thought > I was being sarcastic; I was not. My apologies Albert. I was upset and jumped to conclusions. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > Wasn't it the Nazi's who first used censorship? On the other hand, > people who died in Nazi concentration camps have unanimously refused to > play Doom. /me invokes Godwin's law. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > Wasn't it the Nazi's who first used censorship? On the other hand, > people who died in Nazi concentration camps have unanimously refused to > play Doom. /me invokes Godwin's law. Good call. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
I wrote: > > The fundamental flaw in this line of reasoning Jeffrey... and this is a > > flaw which any sophomore would have been able to spot in the days when > > they still taught logic and critical reasoning skills at American > > universities is this: Edward Cherlin wrote: > Antoine, you are turning this into an rwar. This is an ad hominem > attack, as I'm sure they taught you. Stop it. My apologies Jeffrey, Edward is correct. It makes me angry to hear a person throw around words like 'censor' or 'freedom of speech' when those rights are not being threatened. Censorship is the suppression or deletion of material, which may be considered objectionable, harmful or sensitive, as determined by a censor. Asking for material which could be traumatic to kids & communities who have not have the good fortune to be born in a country that has experienced unparalleled levels of peace and economic prosperity to be kept off-site is neither suppression nor deletion. > Treatment for PTSD requires gradually easing the stress to the point > where the victim can stand to think about what happened without > bringing it back. And about every other kind of violence, real or > fictitious. They have to get to the point where they could play these > games. Yes, they _do_ have to get to that point. But surely in a therapeutic setting ? > You, sir. I fail to understand what bee you have in your bonnet. I see the river of dreams running red with the blood of children. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Jan 18, 2008 1:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Edward Cherlin wrote: >>> I was in the hills north of Seoul, Korea, in 1968 >> >> Mr Cherlin - with much respect to your service in Korea (I have friends >> who also served) but may I ask you to please consider the possibility >> that your experience as an armed, trained and well-supplied soldier was >> not the same experience as that had by civilians caught in the crossfire >> of armies ? > > Mr. van Gelder, I respectfully request that you read my message, over > and over if necessary, until you understand the severity of your > egregious and insulting error. Then apologize, not just to me, but to > the others on this list who have had it far worse, and are even more > fed up than I am with those whose ignorance and lack of imagination > causes them such pain. > > The rest of you, no spoilers. He has to make this discovery himself > for it to take. > > And to think that hummingbirds are the messengers of the Gods in Mayan > mythology. Ed - look... Unless I'm completely misreading you, you are arguing on the basis of your experience as a soldier that Children need to be exposed to violence lest their naivety be taken advantage of by monsters. This is a valid point of view. I let my own children play the Harry Potter games and Starcraft etc. etc. (and yes, when they are older Quake or whatever other waste of GPU cycles Id has come up with by then) to their heart's content because of that very reason. BUT The thing which I am trying to point out is that on the continent on which I live children are _already_ on the receiving end of violence with the result that their needs are different to the needs of my children. Or to put it yet another way: South Africa is still deeply fractured along racial and economic lines. Less than ten minutes from my children's school is a predominantly poor community. The children in this community have daily experiences of drive-by shootings, sexual abuse, rampant crystal meth and alcohol addiction, gang warfare and other such pleasantly formative experiences. Now in my children's school, there are a small amount of children from that community. With a result, that I can guarantee you that if ANY parent at my kid's school were to start arguing that the school should install Doom on the media center's computers that I would oppose them in any way I can. Sure - if we were to make these kinds of decisions on the basis of a majority then _clearly_ there are more kids at the school who would learn from Doom than kids who would be traumatized by Doom. I would hope however that such a decision would rather be made on the basis of common sense. - the messenger of the gods ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Edward Cherlin wrote: > I was in the hills north of Seoul, Korea, in 1968 Mr Cherlin - with much respect to your service in Korea (I have friends who also served) but may I ask you to please consider the possibility that your experience as an armed, trained and well-supplied soldier was not the same experience as that had by civilians caught in the crossfire of armies ? - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: > My personal suggestion to the self-appointed censors is, if you don't > like the content it ships with, go create some you DONT find > objectionable to offer as an alternative. The fundamental flaw in this line of reasoning Jeffrey... and this is a flaw which any sophomore would have been able to spot in the days when they still taught logic and critical reasoning skills at American universities is this: -> Putting violent arcade games in an educational resource violates the right to spiritual and emotional recovery for nations that are in the process of recovering from war. -> Making lists of whatever entertainment resources you wish _OFF-SITE_ does not violate anyone's freedom of speech nor their right to choose whatever type of drivel they wish to waste their time on. What part of this do you not understand ? - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Albert Cahalan wrote: > Sorry to hear about your war. Attitudes such as this sir, is the reason that America is viewed by many nations as a belligerent and imperialistic monster. It is not whether you can argue for the case that America is NOT a monster. It is the fact that she is _seen_ as such which should cause you pause to think. - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-Games] Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > Oops - I have to stop using that 'reply' button in gmail. This was meant > to go to the list in general, the first half is now obsolete (except to > make me look like a fool) because Antoine responded, but the second half > is still valid. Thank you Chema. I really appreciate what you said. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-Games] Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Bryan Berry wrote: > >> My only objection is that Doom be on the same page as Squeak, Library, >> Speak, etc. I have no problem with it being on a page that explains >> that >> activities w/ violence are not endorsed by OLPC. > > Who picks what is "endorsed" and what isn't? Noah, Given that this is an education project I would hazard a guess that the only endorsements which are likely to be taken seriously by anyone of even moderate intelligence would be those endorsements which are made by educators of good repute ? If that's okay with you ? - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Bennett Todd wrote: > Let's get a concrete definition of "violence" and I think the > disagreement will fade right out. If I did it to you and you would go *ouch* as a result then it is violent. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-Games] Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > Hi Antoine, > > On 17.01.2008 21:53, Antoine van Gelder wrote: >> Also Noah - could you please try and show some empathy for the >> backgrounds of the people you talk to? Do you understand that large >> parts of the rest of the world have not enjoyed the same levels of >> stability and safety that your country has ? >> [...] >> Many of us in the other countries have been shot at, had bombs going off >> next to us and been brutalized by people with guns that were loaded >> with real bullets made of lead that, should you be shot with them, would >> blow your head clean off. >> > > Unfortunately I lack information about your backgrund, which results in > the following question: > You use the word "us" very often. Please tell the list members which > country you have lived in where bombs went off next to you. > I'm trying to understand you better. Hi Carl, I'm also trying to understand me (and us) better, so good luck in that project! *grin* I grew up (and still live) in South Africa. Apart from the intense levels of violence we continue to experience [1] South Africa was a country which had _real_ problems with freedom of speech and expression in that if one wanted to say or do something which certain folk disagreed with then you couldn't simply surf over to another website in order to say or do it! - antoine [1] Our family has a very dear friend who runs a tyre shop in Cape Town. In the week before Christmas a group of armed thugs robbed her shop, pistol whipped her face and head into a pulp, beat another employee so hard that her eardrum burst and just before they left they pointed a pistol in her face and pulled the trigger. We will never know if the gun malfunctioned or the robber had simply forgotten to cock it. In South Africa most families have a story to tell like this and, frankly, she got off relatively lightly. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-Games] Violent games on the OLPC Activities page
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > >> I feel very strongly that violent games should not be associated with >> OLPC. Albert Cahalan points out that games like Doom can teach >> geometry >> and other skills. There are ways to teach those skills w/out involving >> violence. I work in Nepal, a country recovering from an 11-year civil >> war. Exposure to more violence, real or virtual, is the last thing >> most >> Nepali communities want. > > I understand your point, however this is the case, the government in > Nepal should simply decide not to include the offending material on > their software image. OLPC is not in the business of censorship or > content classification, and you have no right to try and remove thing > from the wiki just because you dislike them. If you are worried > children will find distasteful things on the internet, perhaps you > shouldn't give them a laptop. I second and strongly share Bryan's feelings. As you pointed out Noah, if children want distasteful things they can find them elsewhere on the Internet. Also Noah - could you please try and show some empathy for the backgrounds of the people you talk to? Do you understand that large parts of the rest of the world have not enjoyed the same levels of stability and safety that your country has ? Do you understand that not every person who finds some kinds of content emotionally hurtful wants to prevent you from exercising your own rights to access that content to your heart's content in forums which are more appropriate to that kind of content ? Many of us in the other countries have been shot at, had bombs going off next to us and been brutalized by people with guns that were loaded with real bullets made of lead that, should you be shot with them, would blow your head clean off. Permanently. - antoine ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Music on the XO
Jean Piché wrote: > > Hello Antoine, > > Like I outlined in my previous response to SJ, I am not so worried about > cultural dominance/imperialism. People are too aware for this to happen > as a matter of course. I am concerned with quality. Quality measured > locally. My apologies - this immediately became clear from your reply to SJ. > If there is condescension to be had, it will be local. Cultural > condescension is complicated. It is not a east-west thing. It happens in > every society: consider older kids commenting on younger kid's musical > tastes. Culture, by definition, is built on the rarification of talent > and expression. As you grow more sophisticated, you understand more. The > examplar in any culture is what has value. Not the common denominator. In another lifetime I earned my supper playing my guitar so I cannot but help agree with you! If I may summarize, what you are saying is that: a) Given that this is about education, OLPC should be taking the cultural high road in terms of bundled music. b) The perception that acceptable licensing terms will be difficult to impossible to obtain should not get in the way of a) ? - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Music on the XO
Jean Piché wrote: > I am perhaps not in a position to be an arbitrer any more than the > undoutedly generous and sharp young minds at Jamendo but I suggest > OLPC thread VERY carefully here. Even when there is quality, I am not > certain what to think of Nigerian children being fed a diet of DJ > Spooky, no matter how much I personally enjoy his work... Dear Jean, Also being a member of the so-called 'dominator culture' I can appreciate where these concerns are coming from as there is much ill-will between people of all countries - rich&poor - regarding things that have happened in the past and fears of what might still happen in the future. I would however like to comment that it is at our peril that we tread on egg shells or - even worse - be _perceived_ as treading on egg shells as there is only one sin which is considered more vile than cultural imperialism and that is the sin of cultural condescension!!! :-D I'd like to quote an email I received this morning from Ron Wertlen, one of the folk involved with grassroots olpc here in South Africa, written on his return from a TV shoot for Swiss national television. While reading it, please bear in mind that the area they visited is one of the poorest and most remote of any district in South Africa. (or Africa for that matter!) Ron wrote: > the shoot went very well! The main thing is we got on well, the kids > had a great time (unfortunately only 20 out of 722). And the > highlight was how surprised Cristina was by the kids - they danced > for us after the shoot and there was some modern and ballroom dancing > there complete with costumes. We decided that would be great as a > final scene, to show that there should be no fear of "cultural > imperialism" via the digital content. The people are seeking new > inputs for growth wherever they can and OLPC can definitely make a > big difference. > > We overnighted at Bulungula, which is very scenic and it really > requires 4x4 driving, which they promptly also filmed to get a good > feel of the Wild Coast. After that there was a short interview in the > car and then we filmed at the school. 722 kids, 18 educators and I > think about 8 classrooms. They have to have classes out of doors. > Because of a roaring wind, the interviewing was done in one of the > two good classrooms (which also has a principal's corner). that's > also where the kids used the computers. I let them play with block > the most. They really enjoyed that. Then I switched on the video > camera on one, and they figured it out themselves on the other one. > These were fairly young kids Gr. 5. - a ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Hosting Request
1. Project name : jokemachine
2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Joke_Machine
3. One-line description : Joke Machine allows XO users to start a
multimedia jokebook with images and sound effects and invite others to
read their jokes via the mesh.
4. Longer description : Friends can also submit their own jokes to
a shared jokebook.
: The jokebook author can edit and reject
all submissions.
: Children love to hear and tell jokes.
: This activity helps with reading, writing
and cultural learning.
: Each culture has its own jokes which
reflect a unique world perspective.
5. URLs of similar projects : N/A
6. Committer list
Please list the maintainer (lead developer) as the first entry. Only
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#2
#3
...
If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please
attach them
to the application e-mail.
7. Preferred development model
[X] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
familiar to
CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
projects.
[ ] Maintainer-owned tree. Every developer creates his own git tree, or
multiple git trees. He periodically asks the maintainer to look
at one
or more of these trees, and merge changes into the maintainer-owned,
"main" tree. This is the model used by the Linux kernel, and is
well-suited to projects wishing to maintain a tighter control on
code
entering the main tree.
If you choose the maintainer-owned tree model, but wish to set up some
shared trees where all of your project's committers can commit
directly,
as might be the case with a "discussion" tree, or a tree for an
individual
feature, you may send us such a request by e-mail, and we will set
up the
tree for you.
8. Set up a project mailing list:
[ ] Yes, named after our project name
[ ] Yes, named __
[X] No
When your project is just getting off the ground, we suggest you eschew
a separate mailing list and instead keep discussion about your project
on the main OLPC development list. This will give you more input and
potentially attract more developers to your project; when the volume of
messages related to your project reaches some critical mass, we can
trivially create a separate mailing list for you.
If you need multiple lists, let us know. We discourage having many
mailing lists for smaller projects, as this tends to
stunt the growth of your project community. You can always add more
lists
later.
9. Commit notifications
[ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to
the list
we chose to create above
[ ] A separate mailing list, -git, should be created
for commit
notifications
[X] No commit notifications, please
10. Shell accounts
As a general rule, we don't provide shell accounts to developers unless
there's a demonstrated need. If you have one, please explain here, and
list the usernames of the committers above needing shell access.
11. Notes/comments:
None
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Re: Changing Sugar system font?
Here are replacements for the /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf files I use when working under vmware. Sets screen resolution to 1280x1024 and X to 200dpi which makes for more readable fonts. - a Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: I've begun to experiment with OPLC images under VMware and Qemu. So far, with all the images I've tried, (546, 609, 613), the system font being used in Sugar is insanely small, to the point of near unreadability. Via googling, I was able to find a hint on how to change the developer console font size, but so far I've not been able to figure out where I can influence the font that is used throughout the GUI. Can anybody give me a pointer as to where to look? I apologize in advance if this is not the right list for such questions (although if it isn't, I'd appreciate being directed to the correct one). -wilhelm ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- "Any organization that designs a system (defined broadly) will produce a design whose structure is a copy of the organization's communication structure." - Melvin Conway default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title OLPC for qemu target (1280x1024) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro vga=0x31A video=vesafb:ypan selinux=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 emu initrd /boot/olpcrd.img title OLPC for qemu target (Full size) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro vga=0x317 video=vesafb:ypan selinux=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 emu initrd /boot/olpcrd.img title OLPC for qemu target (Scaled) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro vga=0x311 video=vesafb:ypan selinux=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 emu initrd /boot/olpcrd.img title OLPC for qemu stdout target root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro vga=0x317 video=vesafb:ypan selinux=0 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200 emu initrd /boot/olpcrd.img title OLPC for devboard target root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro fbcon=font:SUN12x22 pci=nobios video=gxfb:1024x768-16 selinux=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 emu initrd /boot/olpcrd.img Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "yes" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "fbdev" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" #DisplaySize339 271 # 96dpi #DisplaySize 325 260 # 100dpi DisplaySize 163 130 # 200dpi EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection EndSection ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
