Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> On 1/21/08, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Except that it's completely insane to try to diverge from the upstream
> > kernel and userland here.
> 
> Uh?  You are supposed to costumize the kernel as you feel like it.
> Freedom of choice and all.

Sure. You could boot the kernel with an entirely separate sound
stack, storage stack, networking stack, etc. Doesn't necessarily
mean it's a good idea.

> Also, if it may bother you, why not bring
> the issue up to Mr Torvalds?

You're the one with an issue with the status quo - I suggest *you*
bring the issue of OSS4 up to the upstream kernel.

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Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Albert Cahalan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> You can read Hannu's take on the matter in his blog. This
> entry is particularly informative, but note that the code
> has since been released under the GPL.
> http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5

It must be informative and unbiased. After all, he refers to
people who disagree with him as Borgs.

Frankly, if you want to ship ALSA's OSS emulation, it's
just a few modules. But swapping out the entire driver stack
to something that's not used anywhere else at the moment
just seems silly.

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Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> As far as I understand this is due to the use of ALSA without OSS
> emulation.  It's also what affects one of the three Speex bugs
> affecting the XO, as the CLI tool speexdec is unable to use /dev/dsp.
> 
> For the sake of improving the state of audio in the XO; I'd really
> like to put to vote the idea of replacing ALSA with OSS 4.

I can't imagine why intentionally divorcing from the upstream sound
model to a driver stack that is never going to the upstream kernel
would be a *good* thing.

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Re: PATCH: add --loginpause to mingetty

2008-01-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lubomir Kundrak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> > I'm committing these changes to the OLPC-2 branch of mingetty in
> > Fedora CVS.  Please, let me know you'd like to merge them or
> > something similar.
> 
> Such things are definitely better upstreamed if possible. Have you tried
> contacting upstream?

Florian is upstream, IIRC.

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Re: Fwd: Dailymotion for XO laptop

2008-01-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jake Beard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> Hopefully, later this year we'll see a completely open Java, and then see
> Java on the XO.
> Flash is terrible. If it were possible, I'd prefer to see an all-Java
> solution.

That being said, in my experience both with closed and open Java 
implementations,
I wouldn't expect a huge speed improvement on the OLPC from switching from
Flash to Java.

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Re: /lib/lsb/init-functions vs. /etc/init.d/functions in init scripts?

2007-08-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bernardo Innocenti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> On 08/28/2007 01:58 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Bernardo Innocenti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> >> If there are no resources to do it, I hereby volunteer
> >> to do this work in due time, provided there's interest
> >> from the current redhat-lsb maintainers to merge my
> >> changes back.
> > 
> > Taking patches, although I'd start with the stuff in /etc/init.d/functions.
> 
> Agreed.  My idea was to start by moving only the parts
> of code that LSB advertises from /etc/init.d/functions
> to /lib/lsb/init-functions.  Would that make sense?

Not unless lsb/init-functions moves to someplace that doesn't require the whole 
mess
of the lsb stack; we don't want init scripts bringing in the entirety of 
openssl,
X, cron, pax, shadow-utils, etc.

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Re: /lib/lsb/init-functions vs. /etc/init.d/functions in init scripts?

2007-08-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bernardo Innocenti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> If there are no resources to do it, I hereby volunteer
> to do this work in due time, provided there's interest
> from the current redhat-lsb maintainers to merge my
> changes back.

Taking patches, although I'd start with the stuff in /etc/init.d/functions.

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Re: Splitting the ncurses RPM

2007-06-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miroslav Lichvar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> > For sanity's sake on upgrades, leaving the libraries in the same
> > package name (multilib) would be best.
> 
> I'm confused, do you want to keep the libraries in ncurses package?

(This has nothing to to with OLPC, and everything to do with the distro)

If the libraries move to a different package, we end up with ncurses-devel/
ncurses-libs being multilib, instead of ncurses-devel/ncurses as we have
currently. This causes problems for upgrades with getting a no-longer-multilib
ncurses package off the system for the secondary arch. So, if possible,
keeping the libraries in the 'same' package as it was previously is preferred.

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Re: Splitting the ncurses RPM

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miroslav Lichvar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> Ok. Maybe I'd use a bit different naming instead:
> 
> ncurses-bin: bin/*
> ncurses-base: lib*.so.* /etc/terminfo /lib/terminfo, some of 
> /usr/share/terminfo
> ncurses-terminfo: rest of /usr/share/terminfo
> ncurses: requires: -bin -base -terminfo
> 
> How does this sound?

For sanity's sake on upgrades, leaving the libraries in the same
package name (multilib) would be best.

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