Re: Setting up Fedora 7 on a ex-Windows machine (Ottawa)

2008-02-02 Thread Brad Paulsen

- Original Message - 
From: Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up Fedora 7 on a ex-Windows machine (Ottawa)


 On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 10:39 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
 James wrote:
  Hello OLPC people!
 
  I am working on a Snakes and Ladders game for the XO, to help young
  children learn to count.  You can find my first draft of the game
  here: http://olpc-dev.fuelindustries.com/snakes_080116.zip.
 
 
  I'm looking for help in getting Fedora 7 to run on a Sony Vaio PCG-
  GRT796HP laptop that used to run Windows.  It's a Pentium 4, running
  at 2.67 GHz, with 512 MB of RAM.  I've spent several hours trying
  various approaches and distributions, without success.
 
  This is my first excursion into Linux territory, and I'm still finding
  my feet with Python.  I'm more at ease with development on Macintosh,
  and have only scraped the surface of using the Terminal.  Please don't
  hesitate to spoonfeed me in all things Linux and Python.
 
  What I can do
  -
  I'd almost given up hope of getting the Vaio to run Fedora when I
  tried using the XO LiveCD from http://dev.laptop.org/pub/
  livebackupcd.  This worked perfectly, which encourages me to believe
  that the issue is not with the machine but with what I am doing to it.
 
  Where I get stuck
  -
  I've downloaded the F-7-i386-DVD.iso file from 
  http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-7-i386.torrent
   , and burnt it to a DVD-ROM. The initial menu screen appears.  If I
  choose the default (graphic) installation, eventually the screen
  starts to display vibrant pulsing graphics which I do not believe are
  intended.  If I choose the text mode for installation, and step
  through the various screens, I eventually run into a bug in the
  installer script.
 
  Rodney Smith entered a description of the bug into the RedHat bugbase
  on 2007-07-08, but there seems to have been no movement on it since
  then.  This leads me to believe that there must be an obvious
  workaround, so others have just side-stepped the bug and moved on.
 
  The original bug report was marked as NEEDINFO, so I supplied that
  info on 2008-01-21.  You can read the complete report here:
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247399
 First I assuume that you did a sucessfule media check.
 
  What I'm hoping to do
  -
  My aim is to install a version of Linux as close to the XO version as
  possible.  This will make it easier for me to get into the correct
  mindset and best practices for developing for the XO.  I'm not married
  to the idea of getting Fedora 7 to run if the line of least resistance
  is to install something similar.
 
  In his bug report, Rodney Smith notes that System previously had fc5
  that was installed using a dvd and the graphical interface without a
  hitch and that ran fine.
 
  I've looked for a downloadable version of Fedora Core 5 or 6 for a x86
  machine, but all the links that I have found end up at the Get Fedora
  page, which now limits itself to downloads of Fedora 7 and 8 
  http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
   .
 
  I get a similar bug when I try installing Fedora 8.  I've also tried
  installing Ubuntu 6, but run into the graphic-interface-shows-vibrant-
  pulsing-graphics issue.
   
  If it hadn't been for XO-LiveCD_080130.iso performing perfectly on the
  machine, I'd have written off my Sony Vaio as being incompatible with
  Linux.
 
 
  If anyone can help me get some version of Linux installed on the
  machine, I'd be most grateful.  If there are any Python developers on
  this list in the Ottawa area, I'd be interested to hear from them too.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  James
 Second, I hope you did not do what the bug poster did, that is , allow
 the machine to set up a default partitioning.
 If you understand how fdisk works, at the point that patitioning is
 asked for, type ctl-alt-F2 which willget you to a termineal then
 remove all partitioning at partition from scratch. Have a swap partition
 = to 1 of 2x Ram size and the rest make into /.
 Then type ctl-alt-f7 to tqake you back to anaconda and continue.
 This is in tex installation. You cna then use the gui partitioning tool
 to make any final editing of the partitions.

 It may still fail to install but you have started out without mysterious
 partitioning problems which should help.
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James,

Have you tried installing from the LiveCD?

I have Sugar running 

Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page

2008-01-18 Thread Brad Paulsen
Beg Disclaimer

Jeffrey, I'm replying to your message because it was the latest one in the 
thread when I retrieved my 120 OLPC mailing list message today (actually, 
that comes from several OLPC mailing lists, but devel seems to have the most 
traffic on any given day).  So, what I say here is not a reply to you 
personally.

End Disclaimer

I think the direction this thread is taking is completely the wrong way to 
go about things.  OLPC should be in the business of delivering a platform 
and productivity tools (e.g., word processor, paint program, etc.).  It 
should NOT be in the business of distributing content.  ANY content.  Tools 
to build content, definitely (EToys, pyGames, et al.).  But NOT the content 
itself.

If you folks think this little dust-up over violent games is a big deal, 
just wait until the creationists, the scientologists and the new-Nazis 
discover the XO.  If you take a look at some of the stuff on YouTube 
criticizing the very purpose and legitimacy of the OLPC project itself, you 
will know that we are going to have enough trouble just defending the 
platform and the tools.  $200 USD can by a lot of rice for starving children 
and there is no shortage of people out there right now trying to brand the 
OLPC project as another elitist wet dream.

My advice to OLPC is to get out of the content business in any way, shape or 
form as quickly as your little green computer can carry you.  You don't have 
to worry about the XO not having enough educational content.  Many people 
not affiliated with OLPC will be developing content for this platform. 
Then, let the recipients of the machines make the content decisions using 
their own, local standards.

Cheers,

Brad

- Original Message - 
From: Jeffrey Kesselman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: OLPC Development devel@lists.laptop.org
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page


 On Jan 18, 2008 6:17 AM, Chris Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris Hager wrote:
  Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
 
  I don't see why breaking this up by tags (some of which can be things 
  like PG13) isn't a good enough solution. We all know kids will seek 
  this stuff out no matter what, lets at least do it in a controlled 
  way.
 
 
  The MPAA uses those ratings: 
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PG13#Ratings)
 
  - G (General Audience - all ages admitted)
  - PG(Parental guidance suggested - might not be suitable for 
  children))
  - PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned - might be inappropriate for  13 
  years)
  - R (Restricted -  17 years requires parent or adult guardian)
  - NC-17 (No children under 17)
 
  Basically, we could introduce this ratings as tags on [[Activities]].
  Xo-get could list only 'G'-rated Activities by default, and users can
  then 'enable' all other somewhere in the application (preferences, 
  ...).
 

 Or perhaps a bit lighther version:

 - G  (General Audience) (without tag)
 - M  (Mature material, not recommendet for people under ... years of age)

 Coming up with ratings is relatively easy.  The ESRB already has a
 system you can use if
 you want.

 http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

 Deciding who gets to decide how they are assigned... thats harder.

 JK
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Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages

2008-01-10 Thread Brad Paulsen
Super Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] is also spamming the devel, accessibility and 
aop mailing lists (and probably some to which I do not subscribe) with a bunch 
of marketing drivel.   I recommend termination with extreme prejudice.

Cheers,

Brad
  - Original Message - 
  From: ffm 
  To: Tom Hannen 
  Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages


  User blocked, all articles created by user deleted.
  -ffm


  On Jan 5, 2008 3:58 PM, Tom Hannen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

The wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages, made by user 
Star...

Can someone go in and clear them quickly?

Tom
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