Re: foot pedal power
Talking about human power.. potenco version2. http://www.potenco.com/products/pcg2/ Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:44 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:38:59AM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I can add it to the wiki, but where should I add it? It's a Wiki, add it where you think best. Others may move it or link to it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Upgrading XO-1.5 Firmware
Hi all. This sould be a trivial issue. I'm trying to upgrade an X0-1.5 from q3a48 to q3a62 but I'm getting ok flash u:\q3a62.rom Reading u:\q3a62.rom Got firmware version: Wrong machine type What does this means? Rafael Ortiz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrading XO-1.5 Firmware
Hi James On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:02 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:18:13AM -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: This sould be a trivial issue. I'm trying to upgrade an X0-1.5 from q3a48 to q3a62 but I'm getting ok flash u:\q3a62.rom Reading u:\q3a62.rom Got firmware version: Wrong machine type What does this means? Probably your copy of q3a62.rom is corrupt, or is not a rom image. q3a62.rom should have an md5sum of 789c41221a225dad062302e026829353 and a length of 1048576 bytes. The Wrong machine type occurs if the CL1 string is not in the correct place in the file. http://tracker.coreboot.org/trac/openfirmware/browser/dev/olpc/spiflash/spiui.fth#L80 That the Got firmware version: said nothing also shows there is a problem with your ROM image. Re-downloaded and checked sum 1048576 789c41221a225dad062302e026829353 q3a62.rom But I'm getting u:\q3a62.rom:0: line too long for input file The file specified 0 chunks but wrote only two chunks I'm working with an USB key of 8gb. Rafael Ortiz -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrading XO-1.5 Firmware
James, Jon On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 05:37:49PM -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: But I'm getting u:\q3a62.rom:0: line too long for input file The file specified 0 chunks but wrote only two chunks I'm working with an USB key of 8gb. I've just tested here. Downgraded to Q3A48, then upgraded to Q3A62, using a 4GB USB drive. No issues. I've no 8GB USB drive, but a 160GB USB HDD also works. Please try again with a different USB drive. Please try using dir u:\ on the affected 8GB USB drive. This may show there is an incompatibility between OpenFirmware and the filesystem on the drive. Was the factory format changed? What filesystem type is on the first partition? If the content of the USB drive can be safely lost, please also try ok mkdir u:\test ok mkdir u:\test\test ok dir u:\test ok dir u:\test\test (this exercises write and then multiple rapid opens of the device). I formated it (vfat as it was before) although this usb was working for upgrading XOs, nevertherless formatting it was the solution. Thanks you guys are great!. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: foot pedal power
Hi On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Wad, re: human power, there's at least one company that makes the mobile foot pedal charger already, and is marketing it to laptop and cellphone users. On 1/19/11, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have a google? Apply to wiki.laptop.org for best results :-) m Here's one that's less bulky than the Freeplay Weza that's already on the wiki. http://www.easy-energy.biz/products/yogen-max/ http://liliputing.com/2009/09/yogen-max-providing-pedal-power-for-your-laptop.html I can add it to the wiki, but where should I add it? Here ? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Battery_and_power http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals#Power Peripherals#Power seems the natural place. Should it have its own page like the Weza? Sure. Would it be better to make a new page cataloguing known foot pedal solutions out there? If you have time You can make a hierarchy wiki page like /Peripherals#Power/FootPedal Thanks! Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- core team member phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters http://www.phlashers.com -- poverty is violence ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Flash activities?
Hi Esteban Take a look at the eatboom activity, it's an sketch to develop activities based on .swf files, thanks to the work of tomeu and wadeb. http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4225 i use it to make http://people.sugarlabs.org/rafael/CuerpoHumano-1.xo hth. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Hi, exist some study for adobe FLASH on sugar 0.82 and XO 1.0 ? requirements? considerations to develop activities? thanks Esteban. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-desarrollo] Directory of sugar imagens
Hola Kevin. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro kmbc141...@gmail.com wrote: hello to all the list of a few days ago I had that curiosity directory where images are saved on the XO sugar load in this case when it loads. could someone give me the directory where the images Sldos /me no entiente bien tu duda puedes escribirla en Español?. -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro Fundación Zamora Terán www.fundacionzt.org Technical Support-Nicaragua OLPC www.wiki.laptop.org/go/user/kevin.benavides - Soporte XO http://www.sistemascastros.netne.net/ - www.fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Developer Linux User: #12356 ___ Sugar-Desarrollo mailing list sugar-desarro...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-desarrollo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gitorious and uploading public key
Hi George. (adding sugar-devel to cc) It happen to me also, the solution (IIRC) then was wait, wait, wait. cheers. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:15 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Earlier I successfully uploaded a public ssh key to git.sugarlabs.org. But then I decided to change key pairs, created a new set, and then tried to upload a the new one. I'm getting the following message: This sshkey is being created, it will be ready pretty soon I came back a day later. Still no joy. Tried again, same response. Any suggestions? George ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
Hi All. 8-ghz processor ?. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75. Well, that's cool. Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. --Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 official
About near-zero connectivity cost, i came across the caua project http://www.projectcaua.org/ OLPC, and/or others could begin to support these kind of ideas. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Stanley Sokolow overb...@earthlink.net wrote: My personal experience tells me that it wouldn't help to have this piece of vaporware come into being. The limiting factor in bringing computing to the poor masses on this planet is the high cost of connecting them to the Internet. Even wireless service is beyond the reach of rural villages without massive government help, not likely to come about where it is needed most. Negroponte should now focus OLPC's attention on connectivity cost, not on making claims (which I doubt will come to fruition) about ultra low cost tablet devices. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/22/tablet-computer-negroponte-technology-cio-network-olpc.html It aims to make its tablet PC highly durable, all plastic, waterproof, half the thickness of an iPhone and use less than a watt of power, despite an 8-gigaherz processor. The price: an unprecedented $75. Well, that's cool. Deciphering OLPC press releases sometimes feels like I'm playing chess with Picasso, and he keeps breaking the rules, and I can't tell whether this is some kind of art or he's just cheating. --Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel More than anything I find this quote amusing: We don't necessarily need to build it, Negroponte told Forbes. We just need to threaten to build it. I suppose we could threaten to code the OS, threaten to support it, threaten to create content... :-) Hey, its Festivus. Air out the grievances!!! Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 62
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os62 Compressed image size: 702.14mb (-3.28mb since build 61) Description of changes in this build: * change release version from 11.0 to 10.1, for consistent year.release naming scheme with previous releases. (#9806) just to add: Version naming scheme is at /etc/olpc-release (Not sure why this build lost 3MB compared to the last one without any package changes -- we should diff the tarball to find out.) ___ Fedora-olpc-list mailing list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] GSM/CDMA Modems support (part II)
Hi On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Martin Abente mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:41 +0100, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: As I mentioned in my last email to devel@lists.laptop.org, there is a real need for a GSM/CDMA usb modem support in our region since thats the most common/available service in rural locations. Hola Martin, question: are you planning on giving a GSM/CDMA card to each child with an XO? No, but teachers and parents has been asking us about this in every meeting we attended so far since they only got Internet access at schools. Or to configure the local XS to have a GSM/CDMA connection that provides the upstream connection which is then shared by all XO users that connect to the XS? If you want to set things up on the XS, we can probably come up with scripts that get it online as soon as you plug the modem into the XS. (So: unplug to disconnect). Thats not our case, all our school servers are working with WiMax connections, which it's infrastructure requirements are fine for a school. But in countries like Paraguay with a high rate of cellphone usage and coverage (which is an interesting phenomena, considering our country reality), gsm/cdma modems are by far the most common and acquirable service. This is also truth for Colombia, satellite internet is very expensive although in some places is offered by the government, and there are GSM/CDMA modems with a broad use and cheaper fares and wider coverage, although with some problems of wideness of the communication band and re-use of the channel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO problems with 32 characters SSID [laptop.org #9652]
Gabriela reports is solved using os8 (F11 for XO-1). Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: This is being tracked as http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9652 -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OFW Q3A15
Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: Emiliano Pastorino wrote: Mitch, Does q3a15 automatically throttle the processor in case of overheating? Yes If so, is there a way to check if it is working? cat /proc/cpuinfo maybe? Here is a test you can do with Open Firmware: ok show-temperature (cr many That command runs the CPU in full-on C0 state - no halts or other power-saving states - and displays the temperature. If you have no heat spreader, the temperature will soon rise to 100 degrees C, and then the throttling will start, maintaining the temperature between 95 and 100 degrees. With the heat spreader, the temperature should stay much lower, never reaching the 100 degree throttle point. In my current setup with the plastic back off, the board with the heat-spreader goes up to about 45 degrees. Testing with the back plastic on temperature could go to 90, running ok show-temperature (cr many for an hour or more, lets hope the new heat spreader design can lower that threshold. There is a way to check the temperature under Linux. It involves the lmsensors package, but I don't know the exact details. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Q3a14 release notes missing.
Well, np i was just curious about it. if you are too busy you can send me some notes of q3a15 off-list and i can wikify them if you want. my $1 cent. cheers!. Rafael Ortiz 2009/10/28 Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org: Q3a14 release notes are missing in the wiki. is this intended to be so ? I did q3a14 in a hurry one night, so Chris would have something to test over the weekend. I was too tired to write the release notes. Maybe I will write them soon. Maybe not. It is very late here and I am tired again, plus more than a little bored with the continual release engineering grind. q3a15 will be out soon, probably tomorrow. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Q3a14 release notes missing.
Hi. Q3a14 release notes are missing in the wiki. is this intended to be so ? Rafael Ortiz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Test firmware
Today i had the same problem even with q3a13c, after having to reboot because the xo blocked while trying to rotate the screen, before the ''rotate incident'' all was ok on the keyboard freezing front. cheers! Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Steven M. Parrish smparr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~wmb/q3a13c.rom This is a brown bag release whose main purpose is to test the effectiveness of Richard's EC fixes for the keyboard stops working problem. Did 4 reboot cycles with q3a13c and haven't seen again the keyboard problem, I'm seeing the keyboard stops working problem on my XO1.5B2, and since the keyboard doesn't work, I can hit x to get to ofw prompt to flash the new rom. Any suggestions? Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel When this happens to me I unplug it, remove the battery then hold the power button about 10secs. Put the battery back in and all is good Steven = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Test firmware
Rafael Ortiz 2009/10/23 Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org: Today i had the same problem even with q3a13c, after having to reboot because the xo blocked while trying to rotate the screen, before the ''rotate incident'' all was ok on the keyboard freezing front. Is it repeatable? No, in this case i was suffering from an behavior on a discharged battery, the battery was discharged till 4% (watch-battery) although i got DC plugged, when left it recharge for almost two hours, i have not been able to reproduce. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Test firmware
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~wmb/q3a13c.rom This is a brown bag release whose main purpose is to test the effectiveness of Richard's EC fixes for the keyboard stops working problem. Did 4 reboot cycles with q3a13c and haven't seen again the keyboard problem, It also has a fun feature for your amusement: ok screen-ih iselect ok 40 30 set-scaled-resolution (It also works with more conventional resolutions like d# 1024 d# 768 set-scaled-resolution, but not with resolutions larger than the screen's native size of 1200 x 900.) Nice. cheers! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] video-chat9
Would be nice to have a log. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I'm trying to use videochat9 with XS 0.6 (latest yum'd) and it keeps saying telepathy error. Any clues? Does it work for anyone else? AFAICR it worked with xs0.4 Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Center for Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New F11 for the XO-1 Build 6
Hello i was trying these instructions (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1) on an XO-1 for the new build, but the booting gets stuck on loading the ramdisk image is there something else i should be doing ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitismavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you. Now olpc-powerd works as advertised. Kudos. However the problem with the overlap with the GNOME PM remains. I guess the X-server and Gnome power management updates also did not affect the battery monitor and screen rotation issues rotation. Next one may be :) Did the automatic software update ok, found etoys-103, updated it but kept finding it as updatable. This was also the case with os5. Also etoys (and scratch) fail to get the fill color after the first use and to not have a Journal entry. Other activities with problems Pippy-34 fails to find and import modules (I have filled a ticked since os3). Could be a distro-specific problem though. Record does _not_ record sound. Actually the mic light is not even coming up (this was also the case in os5). Use of mic does not solve the problem. The silent recording is not saved at the bottom strip. Measure also fails to see the mic (internal or external) and record anything on first launch. Is there anyway to test if mic is working? On the second launch Measure fails to load altogether. This was also the case in os5. If you erase the existing Journal entry launches OK (but fails to see the mic again) Might be an issue with Journal/paths? (datastore log is full of dbus warnings) Pippy also generates a working tmp copy of the application file in ~/.sugar/default/org.laptop/tmp/ and from there can not find the modules that do exist. Of course could be independent problems. Should I be filling tickets with (if not present)? I mean is F11-XO1 going to be the way to Sugar0.84? ___ Fedora-olpc-list mailing list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] New F11 for the XO-1 Build 6
Thanks for your reply Mitch. Even thought, i pressed the '√' gamepad button at boot the system does not pass from loading ramdisk, can any body build a new F11 on XO .img with the solution propossed by Mitch ? wmb: The solution for this is to add dcon-unfreeze unfreeze to /boot/olpc.fth, somewhere before the boot line, thus turning off pretty boot. Alternatively, if you want to keep pretty boot, releasing the screen only after all of the text messages have finished, you can add echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/dcon/freeze to a late initscript. or what can i do to workaround this issue ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Mitch Bradleyw...@laptop.org wrote: It's probably the same thing as the first item in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO#Known_issues We made pretty boot the default in later versions of Open Firmware, but many alternative operating systems don't know how to unfreeze the screen. Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Hello i was trying these instructions (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1) on an XO-1 for the new build, but the booting gets stuck on loading the ramdisk image is there something else i should be doing ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitismavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you. Now olpc-powerd works as advertised. Kudos. However the problem with the overlap with the GNOME PM remains. I guess the X-server and Gnome power management updates also did not affect the battery monitor and screen rotation issues rotation. Next one may be :) Did the automatic software update ok, found etoys-103, updated it but kept finding it as updatable. This was also the case with os5. Also etoys (and scratch) fail to get the fill color after the first use and to not have a Journal entry. Other activities with problems Pippy-34 fails to find and import modules (I have filled a ticked since os3). Could be a distro-specific problem though. Record does _not_ record sound. Actually the mic light is not even coming up (this was also the case in os5). Use of mic does not solve the problem. The silent recording is not saved at the bottom strip. Measure also fails to see the mic (internal or external) and record anything on first launch. Is there anyway to test if mic is working? On the second launch Measure fails to load altogether. This was also the case in os5. If you erase the existing Journal entry launches OK (but fails to see the mic again) Might be an issue with Journal/paths? (datastore log is full of dbus warnings) Pippy also generates a working tmp copy of the application file in ~/.sugar/default/org.laptop/tmp/ and from there can not find the modules that do exist. Of course could be independent problems. Should I be filling tickets with (if not present)? I mean is F11-XO1 going to be the way to Sugar0.84? ___ Fedora-olpc-list mailing list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] New F11 for the XO-1 Build 6
Q2E18, haven't noticed how old it was. :) Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mitch Bradleyw...@laptop.org wrote: Which version of Open Firmware are you using? Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Thanks for your reply Mitch. Even thought, i pressed the '√' gamepad button at boot the system does not pass from loading ramdisk, can any body build a new F11 on XO .img with the solution propossed by Mitch ? wmb: The solution for this is to add dcon-unfreeze unfreeze to /boot/olpc.fth, somewhere before the boot line, thus turning off pretty boot. Alternatively, if you want to keep pretty boot, releasing the screen only after all of the text messages have finished, you can add echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/dcon/freeze to a late initscript. or what can i do to workaround this issue ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Mitch Bradleyw...@laptop.org wrote: It's probably the same thing as the first item in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO#Known_issues We made pretty boot the default in later versions of Open Firmware, but many alternative operating systems don't know how to unfreeze the screen. Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Hello i was trying these instructions (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1) on an XO-1 for the new build, but the booting gets stuck on loading the ramdisk image is there something else i should be doing ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitismavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you. Now olpc-powerd works as advertised. Kudos. However the problem with the overlap with the GNOME PM remains. I guess the X-server and Gnome power management updates also did not affect the battery monitor and screen rotation issues rotation. Next one may be :) Did the automatic software update ok, found etoys-103, updated it but kept finding it as updatable. This was also the case with os5. Also etoys (and scratch) fail to get the fill color after the first use and to not have a Journal entry. Other activities with problems Pippy-34 fails to find and import modules (I have filled a ticked since os3). Could be a distro-specific problem though. Record does _not_ record sound. Actually the mic light is not even coming up (this was also the case in os5). Use of mic does not solve the problem. The silent recording is not saved at the bottom strip. Measure also fails to see the mic (internal or external) and record anything on first launch. Is there anyway to test if mic is working? On the second launch Measure fails to load altogether. This was also the case in os5. If you erase the existing Journal entry launches OK (but fails to see the mic again) Might be an issue with Journal/paths? (datastore log is full of dbus warnings) Pippy also generates a working tmp copy of the application file in ~/.sugar/default/org.laptop/tmp/ and from there can not find the modules that do exist. Of course could be independent problems. Should I be filling tickets with (if not present)? I mean is F11-XO1 going to be the way to Sugar0.84? ___ Fedora-olpc-list mailing list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] New F11 for the XO-1 Build 6
Thanks mitch Upgrading firmware was the solution. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Mitch Bradleyw...@laptop.org wrote: Note the change list in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e19 , specifically the one about support of new kernels. You should upgrade to the latest release q2e41 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e41 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Q2E18, haven't noticed how old it was. :) Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Mitch Bradleyw...@laptop.org wrote: Which version of Open Firmware are you using? Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Thanks for your reply Mitch. Even thought, i pressed the '√' gamepad button at boot the system does not pass from loading ramdisk, can any body build a new F11 on XO .img with the solution propossed by Mitch ? wmb: The solution for this is to add dcon-unfreeze unfreeze to /boot/olpc.fth, somewhere before the boot line, thus turning off pretty boot. Alternatively, if you want to keep pretty boot, releasing the screen only after all of the text messages have finished, you can add echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/dcon/freeze to a late initscript. or what can i do to workaround this issue ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Mitch Bradleyw...@laptop.org wrote: It's probably the same thing as the first item in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rawhide-XO#Known_issues We made pretty boot the default in later versions of Open Firmware, but many alternative operating systems don't know how to unfreeze the screen. Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Hello i was trying these instructions (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1) on an XO-1 for the new build, but the booting gets stuck on loading the ramdisk image is there something else i should be doing ?. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitismavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you. Now olpc-powerd works as advertised. Kudos. However the problem with the overlap with the GNOME PM remains. I guess the X-server and Gnome power management updates also did not affect the battery monitor and screen rotation issues rotation. Next one may be :) Did the automatic software update ok, found etoys-103, updated it but kept finding it as updatable. This was also the case with os5. Also etoys (and scratch) fail to get the fill color after the first use and to not have a Journal entry. Other activities with problems Pippy-34 fails to find and import modules (I have filled a ticked since os3). Could be a distro-specific problem though. Record does _not_ record sound. Actually the mic light is not even coming up (this was also the case in os5). Use of mic does not solve the problem. The silent recording is not saved at the bottom strip. Measure also fails to see the mic (internal or external) and record anything on first launch. Is there anyway to test if mic is working? On the second launch Measure fails to load altogether. This was also the case in os5. If you erase the existing Journal entry launches OK (but fails to see the mic again) Might be an issue with Journal/paths? (datastore log is full of dbus warnings) Pippy also generates a working tmp copy of the application file in ~/.sugar/default/org.laptop/tmp/ and from there can not find the modules that do exist. Of course could be independent problems. Should I be filling tickets with (if not present)? I mean is F11-XO1 going to be the way to Sugar0.84? ___ Fedora-olpc-list mailing list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions
2009/5/8 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Hi Henry! 2009/5/8 Henry Vélez Molina henry.lap...@gmail.com: We have been working again on trying to install versión 5 of the XS server. Anaconda has not been able to work in our server. I think that the reason is the incompatibility with the graphic card. Is there any way to update the system from Version 4?, Can i do it with yum-update or yum-upgrade? How can we know if the server was updated? Yes, you can update even if there's trouble with the graphics card. - make sure you're using 0.5.2 , not 0.5 - in the initial menu you see when booting from the install/upgrade CD, choose the install/upgrade in text mode option - as you are upgrading from 0.4, you'll need to use the 'upgradeany' trick -- follow the notes in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software yum may work but it'll be rather tricky -- you need to know the correct repositories, and it's 100% untested. For this upgrade, I really don't recommend it. As we go forward in working with the current version of sugar, we note the following: The mouse-pad continues to be unstable - Do you know about the 4-finger mousepad reset? (search the wiki...) Here is the link http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Recalibrating_Touchpad some XOs have problems with the sound, the sound doesn`t work at all some XOs have problems with the cam: the vision can be unclear or not work at all About those problems: - Have you checked the repair guide (in the wiki...)? It has answers to most common problems... - Have you tested (sound/camera) from the OpenFirmWare hardware diagnosis tool? (see the wiki for 'cheat codes') - If the problems are not discussed in the repair guide, you can post about that on de...@lists.laptop.org with good information about the problems. The experts are on that list and will help diagnose the problems... abrazos, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Ambient light sensing via LED response
These measurements are really cool. But the question remains in whether the ADC could have a resolution of 1mv?, i mean in light of these measurements is necessary to have an ADC that can reliable sense these variations and then with that basis have a transfer function and add it to the algorithm. (haven't checked the specs though..) My two cents..;). Rafael Ortiz On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Reinder de Haan r...@mveas.com wrote: Hallo, C. Scott Ananian wrote: snip A last resort would be hooking up a MOSFET as a simple amplifier -- again, you're not worried about linearity or any such niceties, but you'd still need a good match for your MOSFET's threshold voltage... some real measurements to replace the WAGes would go a long way. --scott measured on a B1 XO1 laptop (where the leds and the series resistor are wired in parallel it seam) : almost dark: 0mv ~3meter away from a 8w PL; bare led: ~2mv ~50 cm below ~25W halogen desk lamp; bare led: ~40mv bright white led directly on bare led ~200mv bright white led directly on light guide of the bat.led (lcd side) ~50mv ~50 cm below ~25w halogen desk lamp (~75* angle to the axis of the light guide) ~5mv i measure this between GND of the laptop the led side of the series resistor. all leds seam to be about the same.. i did not compare the different light guides. the main battery and DC power where removed, the RTC baterry was still in place. the meter i measured this with was fixed in the 2000mv range and was abou 10Mohm when i connected it to another meter in resistance mode; the (volt) meter read 250mv at that time. adding a 10Mohm resistor across the meter halved the ~50 cm below ~25W halogen desk lamp; bare led: ~40mv reading to ~20mv strangely enough when i add that resistor in series the meter said ~60mv so voltage on the leds must have been ~120mv? i will have to investigate this at a later time... if you want more measurement doen feel free to ask.. i also have a XO1 (production model ?C1?) that i could measure. i dont have a lux meter :-( Greetings, Reinder ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Ambient light sensing via LED response
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On May 5, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: These measurements are really cool. But the question remains in whether the ADC could have a resolution of 1mv?, i mean in light of these measurements is necessary to have an ADC that can reliable sense these variations and then with that basis have a transfer function and add it to the algorithm. Absolutely not. The A/D is eight bits, with an input range spanning 0 - 3.3V, so the best you can hope for is about 13 mV per LSB. I would guess actual accuracy to be closer to 26 mV. But why do you say you would need 1 mV accuracy ? Bright sunlight is far stronger than the light sources he used. i don't know if the measurements at sunlight would show the same variations.. we would have to make new measurements, but for experience, the variations of voltage regarding light sensing are not of considerable amounts, so if the accuracy is 26mv, we would have to see if a perceptible change in ambient light could be of a higher magnitude than 26mv, if not the accuracy could be lost.. (haven't checked the specs though..) Having the data sheet for the EC controller doesn't help --- 8 bits and recommended operating voltage for the analog reference voltage is about all it provides. I had to ask a chinese speaker to call the app. engineer to find out the input impedance... Ok, thanks :). On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Reinder de Haan r...@mveas.com wrote: Hallo, C. Scott Ananian wrote: snip A last resort would be hooking up a MOSFET as a simple amplifier -- again, you're not worried about linearity or any such niceties, but you'd still need a good match for your MOSFET's threshold voltage... some real measurements to replace the WAGes would go a long way. --scott measured on a B1 XO1 laptop (where the leds and the series resistor are wired in parallel it seam) : almost dark: 0mv ~3meter away from a 8w PL; bare led: ~2mv ~50 cm below ~25W halogen desk lamp; bare led: ~40mv bright white led directly on bare led ~200mv bright white led directly on light guide of the bat.led (lcd side) ~50mv ~50 cm below ~25w halogen desk lamp (~75* angle to the axis of the light guide) ~5mv i measure this between GND of the laptop the led side of the series resistor. all leds seam to be about the same.. i did not compare the different light guides. the main battery and DC power where removed, the RTC baterry was still in place. the meter i measured this with was fixed in the 2000mv range and was abou 10Mohm when i connected it to another meter in resistance mode; the (volt) meter read 250mv at that time. adding a 10Mohm resistor across the meter halved the ~50 cm below ~25W halogen desk lamp; bare led: ~40mv reading to ~20mv strangely enough when i add that resistor in series the meter said ~60mv so voltage on the leds must have been ~120mv? i will have to investigate this at a later time... if you want more measurement doen feel free to ask.. i also have a XO1 (production model ?C1?) that i could measure. i dont have a lux meter :-( Greetings, Reinder ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: What`s going on with OLPC WIKI home page ?
Thanks to Mitch, he restore back the gallery and blocked the vandal. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:15 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: I received the following message tonight. Upon checking, I saw some of the same images (but not all). Unwilling to spend the time to identify which images in our wiki have been polluted, I simply commented out the gallery on the front page. Sigh, wad Begin forwarded message: From: gary.chi...@quantatw.com Date: April 10, 2009 2:02:46 AM EDT To: w...@laptop.org, smithb...@gmail.com, w...@laptop.org Subject: What`s going on with OLPC WIKI home page ? Dear: ALL, Please check attached file , What’s going on with the OLPC wiki page ? Anything I can do to fix that ? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral
Hi In a related note Kristianpaulhttp://co.sugarlabs.org/wiki/index.php?title=Usuario:Kristianpaulaction=editredlink=1of Sugarlabs .co is testing measure in Soas (with arjun's help) in an effort to adapt it to all kinds of hardware. http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sobre_Measure Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: There are two separate issues I encountered with TA (and Measure). One is the need for patches to the alsa audio to accommodate the special OLPC hardware modifications. That would need to be accepted upstream by the alsa project, and then distros will automatically get the changes when they are part of a release. The other is a means within the Sugar bundling system to include binaries for multiple architectures. I actually had written a work-around for the former, but I remain ignorant about the details of how to best handle the latter. (At one point, Sascha had helped me include a script that would build the appropriate binaries at install time, but that solution depends upon a build environment be installed, which is not the default for most OLPC systems. Oops.) That would be just a packaging procedure. In the case of Fedora it would be just the arch dependant rpms as opposed to using a activity .xo file which I believe are arch independent. Unless I've missed something here. Regarding available sensors, Arjun describes some on the Measure page in the OLPC wiki Thanks! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Measure There are also many people working on USB sensor input devices that would be great to support in general. In fedora at least from a driver perspective it would land in Fedora as soon as the upstream kernel has the drivers. I'm not sure whether there is a defined api for accessing those sort sensors on linux. If there was I would presume as the hardware is added that TA/measure would automatically get support for the hardware as its added, if there's not I presume there would need to be individual support added for each device. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] RFC: Supporting olpc-ish Deployments - Draft 1
Hi all. Thank you Michael and Pia for this.. I have to say that although these questions and concerns are indeed needed , they are only counting one side of the history, like asking what would be the best for OLPC to give or the resources that OLPC can give..this is bad centered, OLPC deployments need more independence, the deployments run by governments need to have straightforward relations with the volunteers, and volunteer driven small deployments need more independence to manage it's own resources and address and resolve the concerns and questions stated here. If the deployments manage to have more independence from OLPC central, i can assure you that OLPC resources wouldn't be so needed as they are now, and can be focused in other tasks. SugarLabs is taking this focus for it's deployments, to have federated Local Labs with some common ground rules but with the possible maximum independence. This independence guarantees real empowerment, distribution of task and efforts, it's not only what SugarLabs can give to Local labs but also what Local Labs can give to SugarLabs, in my opinion and experience this is the best way that SugarLabs can support deployments. For more info: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam http://sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Folks, Pia Waugh (greebo) and I have spent a fair bit of time in the last month talking and thinking about what we can do in the next few months to best support present and future olpc-ish deployments (typically with XOs, typically running Sugar) and we'd like to share some of our thoughts with you. These thoughts are presented in draft form in order to solicit your feedback, which is eagerly awaited, and will likely be incorporated into future drafts. Regards, Michael -- 1. Motivation We think that many deployment-related needs are not being adequately met, particularly in the areas of: * knowledge-sharing and the ability to benefit from others' mistakes. * volume and quality of aid available for conducting deployments. * bandwidth, latency, and SNR of channels to other communities which work with deployments; e.g. other deployments, educators, software teams, distributions, researchers, consultants, and volunteers 2. Use Cases We're particularly interested in addressing these situations and needs: D1) I'm running a deployment... a) ...and I need help! Who shares my problem? Who can help me? b) ...and I want to do more! Who/what can I work with? c) ...and I want to share! Where do I go? What is needed? D2) I need to talk to people deploying XOs. a) Where do I go? b) What can I expect? D3) I'm working on a deployment plan. a) Where to I start? b) What have I forgotten? c) Am I using best practices? d) Can I get a review? D4) I need to know... a) real deployment numbers, b) maps, c) examples, d) photos, e) techniques, f) contact info, ... 3. Existing Resources for Use Cases Before we started, there were three basic mechanisms for addressing these use cases: 1) read the Deployment Guide and the Deployments page(s): http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_Guide http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_support 2) ask olpc-techsupp...@laptop.org. (Only available to large deployments?) 3) poke people on IRC. These three mechanisms are problematic because none of them can be relied upon, alone or in combination, to adequately address any of the use cases listed above. 4. New Resources for Use Cases So far, we've created two new resources which help bridge the gap: 4) weekly deployment support meetings, with minutes at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings#Meeting_notes which get aggregated each month into 5) a Deployment FAQ, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_FAQ similar in form and spirit to the G1G1 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ We think that these two new resources, in combination with the pre-existing resources, will help us provide the next level of support for our use cases. 4. Projects We presently have several ongoing (interrelated) projects which you might like to become (more deeply) involved in: P1) Keep improving the deployment support meetings -- so far, so good! -- your participation in these meetings is our best current source of new content for the Deployment FAQ and for... P2) Organize material captured in the meetings as FAQ entries -- the meeting minutes are chronological, which is good for minutes, but not particularly
Fwd: [OLPC Networking] About the note on the wiki.
Rafael Ortiz -- Forwarded message -- From: Marc Mauri Alloza marcmauriall...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM Subject: [OLPC Networking] About the note on the wiki. To: network...@lists.laptop.org I've seen that OLPC has some tourble and that they are findong a way to reduce tho costs in networking. I don't know what way are you using to connect every school around the world but in Spain exist a community called Guifi.net that is building a open wi-fi network arround our country at low cost, I say low compared with other commercial alternatives. Guifi.net has a great caracteristic that is all network is managed by the users using a great webb app to assing IP's draw maps of the network and create new nodes an Access Points, I don't know if it information will solve you some problems but I think that the Guifi.net cmunnity will be proud of it work if you use it to build free and open network arroun developing world. A simple user of Guifi.net Free and Open network. For more informatione please visit http://guifi.net/en in inglish. The page is also available in sapnish and catalan. To read the Wireless Commons, the coinditions that has to accept everybody that wants to do free and open networks visit http://guifi.net/WCL_EN ___ Networking mailing list network...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/networking ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Write moved to git.sugarlabs.org
Hi all I've also changed the needed links on wiki.laptop.org to reflect this change of source location. :) Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, just moved this activity. Will update jhbuild next. You forgot Pootle :( ;-) -sdg- -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
bounce moved to gitorious at SL
Hello I've followed the instructions on http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC to have bounce on gitorious. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/bounce cheers!. Rafael Ortiz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Activities migration status
Hi Wade Thanks to you..there are too many people excited about the activity team. i'll keep helping :). the work is indeed massive! Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome, thank you Rafael! Today I went through dev.laptop.org/git identifying those projects that contain Sugar activities. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus Still remaining is to go through Activities/All (and code.google.com, personal sites, etc) and find those activities which do not have d.l.o repositories. The list is *massive*. I had no idea we had so many cool activities in various stages of development! The process of finding their authors and migrating them to SL will result in some great new software for Sugar. It will be a lot of work but I know the end result will be worth it. Best regards, Wade On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I've followed the instructions on http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC to have bounce on gitorious. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/bounce cheers!. Rafael Ortiz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Help me developing for Sugar
Hello My suggestion is that you try working with Ubuntu and install the sugar packages, they are pretty decent for developing.. Also you can check the new Activity team at sugar labs for resources. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam Hope this helps. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:44 AM, master puppetz dec...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, My name is Lazim and I'm a student from Malaysia. I am new in open source especially in Sugar development. Regard to my proposal at projectdb, I'd like to develop an e-mail client called SugarMail. I'm not sure whether SugarMail is possible to be developed or not, but my proposal is to make SugarMail to be an e-mail client that don't required mail server for sending e-mail among XO users. It sound ridiculous, but it's not imposible. The problem is I don't have enough knowledge about developing a software for Sugar and currently I still don't receive my requested XO laptop for me to figure out. I've run the Sugar through emulation under the qemu but my laptop condition not very good at running 2 operating system simultaneously. I would like to ask for anyone that would help me be my mentor on developing this SugarMail. I also appreciate if anybody have any suggestion on how to develop the SugarMail under Windows environment as I'm using Windows XP on my laptop right now. Lazim, SugarMail, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/SugarMail OLPC Malaysia, http://olpcmalaysia.blogspot.com Lazim, http://www.mohdlazim.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Server-devel] w.l.o School Server on SideBar.
Hello I've added to the side bar of wiki.laptop.org School Server. (This is under projects). To have an easier access to the documentation related to the XS. Rafael Ortiz ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Localization] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.
Hello Chris On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * A method -- similar to Scott's recent GtkLabel overlay for allowing strings inside Sugar and activities to be translated -- that does a dictionary lookup of a word on the screen and overlays the translation of that word into a local language. This should be activity-agnostic, if possible. For bonus points, translate phrases instead of just words. Nice idea * Perhaps some kind of Pronunciation Activity that gives you words in the target language, speaks them to you, explains what they mean in your local language, and asks you to speak them back, perhaps grading your response? (All but the last part is already possible to do manually in the Words activity, but not in a structured way.) We can use HablarConSara (http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:HablarConSara-1.xo) for this purpose, we can tweak her database and teach her how to respond to pronunciation inquiries. Another idea is using infoslice to translate little slices of wikipedia or texts and allowing the writer to edit the automated (google translated), translation for giving meaning to the overall result. This would be like a ''translator'' activity. (just thoughts) -- Rafael Ortiz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: notes from the field - Mongolia
Hi Elena, I agree with your points about the way that children and professors can perceive the XO and Sugar..and i agree that this issues are of capital importance and the technical community is aware of those problems. But i have to report an experience made in the field also, specifically in Colombia.. in a nearby economically depressed zone called Soacha in an neighborhood called altos de Cazuca. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Colombia/Altos_Cazuca We had a series of workshops, and the same problems you listed before showed up. But the conclusion of the experience was favorable in the sense that both parents and children were continuously interested by the XO, they never lost focus on it. and they were very thankful to have the opportunity to play with a computerso although the XO is not a perfect or either completed tool is more than good compared to nothing. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey Tech Community- I just wanted to give y'all some feedback from my experience in Mongolia. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Please excuse my lay language - it's how i roll. 1) Computers are slow - So I was in a Ger in the west part of Mongolia and I thought I would show the computer to the family that was hosting me. The husband, wife and 8 year old child huddled around the computer and pressed the on button. Instead of being delighted by the computer they waited, and waited for the computer to load. I asked them in broken monoglian to be patient but once the computer loaded they wanted to open an application and again more waiting. The 8 year old lost interest as did the mom and only the man of the house stuck around to try things. This is not a unique experience. This is a culture that lives close to the land. Action- reaction. No one is used to waiting for an computer to load or a bagel to toast for that matter. (of course cooking takes time but they can watch as it changes form not just an unmoving screen) In the city the experience is worse. Kids used to PCs quickly grow impatient and leave the XO to find other faster computers. 2) Can't save files - this should probably be the first item on my list. It drives teachers and students crazy. They make something in an application, take some pictures or write something and then have to go through a really tough process to find it and save it on an external drive. 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they did unless it was done within the last 30 minutes. 4) Mesh problems - my sense is that you are all pretty aware of those issues. There are a bunch of bugs that I reported through reuben which include the problems with applications once they have been translated into cyrillic. These are some of the main foundational issues that folks are having. Let me know if you have questions. elana ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Ortiz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sur] XO
Hola henry. 2008/9/4 Henry Vélez Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hola. Como vamos Claudia, un gusto también verte por aquí. Ojalá nos podamos ayudar con esto. Gracias por las respuestas Germán. Mira, estoy casi seguro que lo que decís del punto 5 es una de las razones de los errores 4 (junto con lo de Esteban) y 5. El problema es que cuando soluciono el 4, este persiste. ¿se te ocurre alguna solución? Esteban también muchas gracias por las respuestas. 1. Mousepad rebelde. Se mueve bien, pero al soltarlo cambia su posición. Por obvias razones no permite el control de la XO. Se soluciona presionando las 4 teclas de las esquinas en el teclado (marco+esc+-+fn). Manteniendo los 3 primeros presionados y por ultimo tocar fn. Lo voy a probar. 3. No reconoce el cargador. Al iniciar la máquina se muestra un mensaje en donde se dice que le cargador no está presente. Eso pasa cuando el cargador está conectado? si Puede pasar que quieras hacer un update del firmware y para eso es necesario que la laptop esté conectada a corriente. Este error se presenta cuando se prende la laptop para trabajo normal. Tampoco se soluciona cambiando el cargador. 4. Se desconfigura la fecha y bloquea la XO porque la lease no es válida. Esto se soluciona activando nuevamente la XO y modificando la fecha. Pero aun no conocemos la causa concreta de este error. Hubo una partida de laptops que salió con la ranura de la pila mas grande que la pila misma, por lo que se sale y se resetea el reloj del sistema. si esto es así, ¿Como lo solucionamos?. Saludos y muchas gracias. ___ Lista olpc-Sur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur Mira esta pagina http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_Clock para solucionar le problema del reloj, lo que se puede hacer es asegurar bien la pila de la board con un adhesivo y reiniciar. Si no prueba con las otras opciones que se listan en la pagina. -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Clock activity? Activities about time?
Hello Bastien On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Chocolate Frosted Sugar Geeks, is there a Sugar activity displaying a simple clock? What activities can be used to teach things about time? (seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries...) Is there a simple calendar activity? Can we manipulate the earth and visualize earth enlightenment depending on the position and the hour of the day? yes, but also it would be nice to have something like a ''time'' activity that could explain the physical meaning of time with examples and so on. (Pygame or Etoys based). Any hint welcome. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] OT: Anybody worked with robot and OLPC
Hi maybe this can be of interest, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Robots this is planned with open hardware. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware. On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Carlos mauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Friends. Someone made a robot using only the OLPC. There is a project to adapt to the OLPC iRobot of microsoft. I am going to bring the artificial intelligence. The teacher will use the robotic irobor and microsoft for the course. I wonder if you could use an OLPC to make a robot and program intelligent agents. The idea is a purely academic post so that in future we will work with cooperative multi robot players. -- http://unimauro.blogspot.com/ Creemos en el amor de los Seres Humanos Carlos Mauro Cárdenas Fernández 4582877 980525716 ___ Sugar mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] Weekend Report - due today
Hi, I have seen these pages related to that. http://cmap.ihmc.us/ http://cmap.ihmc.us/xo/ HTH. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Follow up on Cmap tools Looks quite interesting, where can we get more details? Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS
Hi all For the porting efforts people can begin packaging the different software tools, provided by the XS, without waiting for all the OS support. For example the upgrade server was originally developed for debian. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrade_server Just a though. :). On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Marc E. Fiuczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello, Fedora supports powerpc, right?! May I suggest that the XS folks first get the base software working and then worry about the Linux distribution. I just don't believe that at this stage it really much matters whether its Fedora, Ubuntu, or whatever. Btw., I am just an XS list observer! Martin.. all the power to you. Marc On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, One more argument for a debian based XS: Debian supports various non-x86 architectures, which are good candidates for a compact, affordable, and low power XS server: - The mipsel based fuloong mini ( http://www.lemote.com/english/ fuloong.html ) engineered by the chinese Jiangsu Lemote Technology Corporation limited ( www.lemote.com ). Debian is fully supported. The installed distribution (rays, http://openrays.org/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunwah_Linux_ (rays_Linux_Distribution) ) is debian based. The people at lemote are very supportive. The fuloong units I have received have a 120GB hard drive and 512 MB memory. - The powerpc based Bubba 2 ( http://excito.com/bubba/technical-specifications.html ) engineered by Excito in Sweden ( www.excito.com ). They are very supportive too and are ready to assist us. The distribution is debian too. - etc. Best regards Samy Quoting Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I have a few projects I am helping support and was thinking about doing an Ubuntu based XS option. I wanted to find out whether anyone else was interested in this, and whether any work has been done. My reason for wanting to do an Ubuntu version is purely because it is a more familiar platform for me, and I though having easy to roll out XS deb packages might be useful to others. I'll also be doing a bunch of testing of the ds-backup packages and some additional functionality we need for some Australian/Pacific rollouts. I'll keep the list updated on our progress. Martin mentioned that there are apparently 6 packages for the Fedora based XS project, so I need to find those out to port to Ubuntu please :) Thanks all! Cheers, Pia -- Linux Australia http:// linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http:// osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http:// softwarefreedomday.org/ There is no darkness but ignorance. - William Shakespeare ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Sur] Imagen de Inicio. Boot
Hola On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Henry is asking about localised images for the XO, and specifically asking about a branded boot image (splash image). 2008/7/28 Henry Vélez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Les pregunto. ¿como puedo poner una imagen personalizada en el inicio de la laptop? Que cambios quieres hacer? Solo el splash? Parte del sistema de seguridad es que las maquinas no aceptan cualquier imagen (imagen del SO) para instalarse. Hice el cambio del Splash tal como se hace en una distro de Linux normal, pero en este caso no resultó. He estado buscando la ruta donde esté alojada la img que hace de fondo en el inicio de la XO. Creo que esta es la solución más simple. He is looking where the boot img is stored. I am not completely certain but the early image may be in the firmware? No conozco el asunto en detalle, pero la primer imagen creo que esta en el firmware. Mas adelante en el proceso puede que se muestre una imagen desde linux. abrazos, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel Cscott recomienda estos links para el tema http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tweaking_the_boot_animation http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Replacing_the_shutdown_screen los dos links estan en http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key. espero sirva henry :). -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Bubba 2 as XS server?
It seems very nice, but i don't know how many XO's could be linked to the bubba server, I mean how many XO could this server administrate ?. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excito announced the new Bubba Two (excito.com), which could be a possible XS server candidate (333Mhz PowerPC processor, 7-12 Watts, compact size, 2 ethernet ports, expandable storage, 2 usb, debian based. For more info, see http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3110315320.html Bests, Samy ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: wiki spam!
Hi all, We've had worst Spam attacks and the cases have been solved by all the wiki admins without having to apply further restrictions to access. Cheers! 2008/6/20 Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We can run an anti-blanking bot to avoid the most obvious spam. Requiring logins makes tracking casual vandals harder without making it harder for any dedicated vandal such as this one from doing their devious deeds. Of course, if you want to restrict viral communication on our wiki by increasing the barrier to entry for casual participants... :-) SJ On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's becoming very annoying having to deal with spam (bots?) operating on the wiki, trying to blank wiki pages, like in the case of the following: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multi-hop_mesh_network_in_MIT_campus Is there a way to prevent that? Why not require user logins to make edits? p. -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ http://www.mit.edu/%7Eypod/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] uruguay server hardware
Hi John et all, i've wikified this into http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Scenario_taxonomyaction=editsection=5 maybe there is some better place in the wiki to do so. Greg do you agree?. Can we organize this page better?, i'm thinking we should put the specific hardware of all countries in there, to have a knowledge database. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:47 AM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been some questions about what hardware Uruguay is using for school servers. They are placing a second tender right now, but the first batch of servers were: (An IBM x3105) 1.6 - 1.8 GHz AMD processor 2 GB RAM 160 GB disk (two drives, in RAID 1) three NICs (one WAN, and two LAN) the intent was to have a WiFi network inside the school and another for outside the school, but they are currently only using a single WiFi network. Six USB slots DVD-RW for backup These machines stop working at temperatures higher than 40C. (Crash, not nice power-off) The RAM size was chosen to better support Squid and Dansguardian. The small disk size is due to the costs of disks when bought through server vendors and there not being XO backup at this point. Watchdog and remote monitoring boards are recommended (but not currently installed.) All errors are mine, wad ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] XS 163 videos
Hello, FYI Jesse padilla form Manizales, Colombia has uploaded some videos about XS 163 server build installation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHpN7-XVKw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwvZsJYzJ_s -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 163 videos
Hi On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/16 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jesse padilla form Manizales, Colombia has uploaded some videos about XS 163 server build installation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHpN7-XVKw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwvZsJYzJ_s Interesting! The show the initial install... any hopes of getting through the reboot and dns+ejabberd configuration? Yep i t is possible we will work on that ;). -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: OLPC Project suggestions.
deployments in US schools: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Internet_Protection_Act Kid-friendly Python IDE http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Pippy http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Develop http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/icon-draw-activity Collaboration via Multi-pointer X (MPX) http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-May/015602.html Lots more at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects_and_proposals And don't forget: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_program -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)
Hi all, In the wiki there are testing guides that could do as reference for Colors and other activities. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_guide. 2008/5/1 Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually I should mention that Colors! has a bug list going on its Development page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Colors%21/Development Some of those may have regressed since they were marked fixed, I feel like I have seen the blank toolbar happen recently. -Wade ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: FAQ software
Hello i did a little googling on this.. Results only include scripts in python or perl to generate the FAQS. Also drupal and other CMS have especial modules for this purpose. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Charles Merriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, A text file and raw HTML to the web page work very well if there is a single FAQ maintainer. Charles On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:21 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any recommendations for software for Peru to build an FAQ site ? Yes, there are Wikis. Votes for the easiest to install and maintain ? Is there anything better out there ? wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Extreme Linux Server Available to North America
This is cool but what about $$ ? Sorry this question was aimed to determine possible better solutions about pricing, i'm not involved in decisions about money (talking about my country's pilot) but it would be nice to have a reference, because all the schools and pilots are different and this issue is really important for deployments. So anyway i'm investigating this..but is off-topic right now. pardon. martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Extreme Linux Server Available to North America
Hi On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holger mentioned the Plat'Home machines recently featured on Slashdot... Wad and myself looked at the specs recently. Overall, they are good, I think the summary is: - Good kit - sealed, fanless, flash RAM, lots to like... - RAM ceiling is too low. 512MB would be the minimum workable RAM right now. - Shifts the problem spot to the ext HD. At the end of the day, they are not that different from running the XS from an XO-1 HW platform. The upside is that you have ethernet ports, the shared limitation is that you have no internal HD and very limited RAM. If those same machines could be ordered with RAM ranging from 512 to 2GB... instant love ;-) -- add a fanless ext USB drive enclosure and run run run. This is cool but what about $$ ? martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] noob needs Poodle, Moodle, Drupal mentoring
Hi Yama About pootle you can also join #olpc-pootle in freenode. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Yama, DIY instructions: - install a basic Ubuntu linux machine - install moodle and drupal via the packaging system - apt-get install moodle drupal5 - have a read of the README.Debian file in each to see how to complete the configuration - Poodle... google a Poodle install howto and follow it, if it goes wrong, ask in the poodle mailing list! each of these programs has a fantastic community around it. If you need further help, ask them. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: New long range router! :-)
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ed Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:09 AM Subject: Re: New long range router! :-) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering if the OLPC has become aware of a new long-range wi-fi router, reported in MIT review. Apparently, gives 6Mps for at least 60 miles! Could be very useful in some remote areas. http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20432/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Sugar jhbuild bug
Hello all, Same problem in debian, fixed as tomeu stated. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:56 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to set up sugar-jhbuild on my OpenSuse 10.2 computer. When I was satisfying all the dependencies reported by the build option I noticed one that seemed very odd. It wanted automake 1.7. Open Suse installs automake 1.9, and I would have thought anything 1.7 or greater would work. I satisfied all the other dependencies first, hoping this would go away, but it stayed to the end and build would not budge until I fixed it. I downloaded automake 1.7.9 source and installed it in /usr/local/bin, and that seemed to be enough to get sugar-jhbuild working again. Then I got this message: configure.ac:8: require Automake 1.9, but have 1.7.9 autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1 That's a Catch-22 if I ever saw one. I let the build keep running, skipping over the modules that won't compile. It's pretty obvious that I won't have anything workable afterwards, though. I would guess there are a lot of sugar-jhbuild users on this list, and I'd appreciate any suggestions. I can easily uninstall automake 1.7.9, the question is what to do after that. Hi, just in case it helps somehow in OpenSuse, here in ubuntu gutsy I installed automake 1.7.9 and 1.9 from the standard repos and things work fine. Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Localization] Updating translations for release...
Hi all, Talking about Spanish fuzzy strings i have been working to unfuzzy all of them,, i have a few that still need reviewing but the majority are now unfuzzy. i expect to complete the process or most of it before monday. On Feb 8, 2008 2:17 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like a plan. Translators, please unfuzz your strings! This is particularly important for Spanish, which seems to be suffering with a lot of time... - Jim On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 22:38 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: Hi, On Feb 8, 2008 5:10 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The time has come to get the activities updated with Update.1 translations. How do we stand? I have done extensive testing with Spanish and Mongolian, and they seem to be good to go. We can't wait any longer to speak of. I think we need to pick a definite date and time for the completion of this, no later than, say, Monday, and anything untranslated stays untranslated. We have to be able to move on to working on our next release. Agree thoroughly. Monday is the date. 1) Can the activities be updated by you updating the packages, or will this require work by the activity developers? Yes one can simply do a git pull from dev.laptop.org and the latest translations will go in. 2) I gather we have to update Sugar to fix a problem or two to get the translations to stick. Are there any other activities in a similar situation, that will require code updates as well as translations? Not that I know of (except for Sugar). TurtleArt has a spelling mistake which you might want to fix. However, the build system does not pick up all translations - see #6179 3) Fuzzy strings. What's left to un-fuzz them? It depends on the translators - I request all translators to got through their fuzzy strings during the weekend if possible, and unfuzz them. Messages which remain fuzzy on Monday will not be compiled in. 4) fonts: are there any additional fonts that need to be added? If so, what are their packages, their licenses, and their sizes? Does Dennis know what languages are to go into the image? Depends on #6179 (ie, which languages go into the image). I believe we cover all the languages that are currently defined in Sugar Control Panel - but I'll stilll go through them and verify by Sunday. 5) I noticed some mail go by that certain mis-coding could cause activities to crash. How do we get those fixed? Hmm - tough question :-). I'll try to fix those by hand (most of them are syntax errors). But this will take some time, and I'll probably finish by Sunday night (IST). So any package update has to be _after_ that. Does that sound viable ? Yes. Thank you, Sayamindu -- Jim Gettys One Laptop Per Child ___ Localization mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] Matplotlib vs PyCha
Hi Arjun, I think Matplotlib would be the best choice taking in count that we probably want to work analysing bio-signals, i see that Matplotlib has splendid examples like mri_with_eeg.pyhttp://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/screenshots/mri_with_eeg.pyand eeg.py http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/screenshots/eeg.py So we have a nice framework to begin with. Also without knowing too much about it, the problem about the large size could be worked out as you suggested. cheers! On Feb 7, 2008 2:20 AM, Arjun Sarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In continuation with my previous email[1] in which I had mentioned that I was looking for python packages that would enable me to do graphing/plotting of data in various formats. I searched through a series of packages. One that I really liked was gtksheet (or gtkextra?)[2] which had various plotting functions (and also a spreadsheet like interface, which I would eventually need) but there hasn't been any development on that since a long time and that package depends pygtk1 and python 2.4 so it seems I can't use it. After searching through more packages it seems to me that I have two options -- (A) PyCha [3] Pros * Very small package - 30KB. Just need to include these few python files [4] Cons * Very limited types of representations - just line, bar and pie chart * For displaying it within a gtk window one needs to do some hackish stuff. like making a cairo surface and cairo context and copying the surface from within the python modules to the main program etc. (B) Matplotlib [5] Pros * A __huge__ variety of display methods a large number of graphs, and a large number of built in mathematical functions * A large community develops on and/or around it. Quite well known. * There is a well defined and supported method for embedding it in gtk Cons * Large size. Just the rpm is about 5MB. It requires python-dateutils and pytz. The pytz rpm is another about 6MB I am veering towards Matplotlib because it has some really amazing functionality (see the screenshots page[4]) The solution to the large size could be that we fork the upstream package by removing certain parts that we don't require. There are things that we don't need. For example in the rpm that I downloaded I noticed that we could remove the examples and also remove support for other backends (just keep the gtk backend support) Please give comments/feedback/suggestions that would help set a direction for development. thanks Arjun [1] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-January/004211.html [2] http://gtkextra.sourceforge.net/ [3] http://www.lorenzogil.com/projects/pycha/#Documentation [4] http://www.lorenzogil.com/projects/pycha/browser/trunk/src [5] http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html ___ Sugar mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC library] MATLAB for OLPC?
2008/1/28 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 28, 2008 5:24 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Cleve Moler wrote: (I doubt that MATLAB runs in the OLPC, but I'm not sure.) There are a number of open-source replacements for MATLAB, including GNU Octave ( http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ ) and Maxima ( http://maxima.sourceforge.net/ ). --scott -- Another interesting open source math project also pointed as a replacement of matlab is Sage * http://www.sagemath.org/** * -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: wiki is being spammed with huge numbers of new pages
hmm. adding text is pointless... If a vandal went through and did massive deletions, is it recoverable? yes, this can be done going trough the page history and reverting changes . -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Peripherals] [Tele]Health Update
Hi all, As Ian said i'm working in a EKG prototype with the assistance of a professor and alumni of my uni, The process has been stoped due to intersemestral vacations but we have a working prototype, although we still need a lot of improvements. So i guess in two weeks or so we will continue with the development. I hope soon, i can upload the footprint of the prototype, and all the related info. Cheers! On Jan 1, 2008 12:36 PM, Ian Daniher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has, in the past few months, been a surge of interest in health and telehealth applications for the XO. My own efforts have been focused on telehealth hardware and software intended for use in scenarios where medical facilities are available but man hours to manually screen individuals is not. This is a scenario faced in many large third-world cities in addition to refuge camps. Codyl and Dirakx have been assisting; Codyl handling the micro-controller part, Dirakx working with a Columbian team to develop an EKG. I have designed a Pulse Oximeter based heavily on a communications photodiode instrumentation amplifier. I have started prototyping over Christmas break. I am working with Dirakx and Dr. Dhurjaty to design and prototype an EKG unit providing valuable diagnostic information about Arrythmia. Both of these devices will also provide valuable pedagogical resources. I have designed a server-client infrastructure of the following form for the THPM activity(telehealth parameterized activity): A GTK+/PyGTK based gui feeds information into a program which creates an XML document via PXTL XML templating. This XML file is uploaded to a server running an httpd and ftpd using the ftplib python module, along with images in a .jpg format and waveforms in a .wav format. The program creates a folder on the server of the following form /www /username /time /health.xml /image_of_affected_bodypart1.jpg /image_of_affected_bodypart2.jpg /pulseox.wav /stethescope_and_audio.wav /ekg.wav /health.css From this structure, a doctor can access a webpage from the url format: http://server/username/time/health.xml The XML file will be rendered by a CSS file in the root web directory. The THM(TeleHealth Module) activity will use code similar to the measure code to record and then display waveforms inputted via a USB Analog to Digital Converter. In addition to all this, there has been a movement to convert the .pdf Hesperian foundation work *Where There is No Doctor* into [x]html. Pascals has been heading up this work. Anyone interested in contributing, feel free to contact me via any of the below means. Many thanks, -- Ian Daniher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype : it.daniher irc.freenode.com: DyDisMe ___ Peripherals mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/peripherals -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC News 2007-12-22
Hi Carl There is an effort to open the Ec code. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OpenEC if you want to help you are welcome! :). On Dec 22, 2007 7:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't the clearance made wider sometime between B1 and B2 to fix the problem with interlocking plastic parts? Please explain further. As I recall, we widened the base to reduce some wobble. This is an effort to further reduce wobble (in the 90 degree rotation). Is this a hardware or software bug? Software. This may have been asked before, but how far is the progress in freeing the EC code? IIRC first there were official statements that the EC code would be free (and all parties would agree to that), then after some time it was announced that OLPC were talking with Quanta about setting the code free, now we just hear about EC bugs, but nothing about the code. I don't think we'll get this code freed up because it is a tangle of ownership and licenses. But we do plan to rewrite it from scratch when we come up for air. -walter --- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Laptop debug
I guess you can try with an standard serial/usb adapter ..and play along. :). On Dec 20, 2007 12:50 PM, Gerard J. Cerchio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rafael, I saw that page, you mean if I want one I build it from the PDF's?? Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: On Dec 20, 2007 12:16 PM, Gerard J. Cerchio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Do the XO's ship with the serial/USB debug adapter? no If not, how do I get one? you can see this for reference. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Serial_adapters HTH ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org mailto:Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [olpc-community-support] [Testing] Conf Call today for discussion of G1G1 Support, 2pm est
Hi everyone! Could be this support meeting be done in IRC in the future? cheers! On Dec 17, 2007 1:34 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! I will write up minutes and publish on email and probably wiki. Kim On Dec 17, 2007 1:04 PM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will someone be keeping minutes for those of us who cannot be available at that time? -ffm ___ community-support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/community-support -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: joyride, ship.1 etc.
Hi all i've put some notes in here.. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Stable_Upgrade cheers! On Dec 4, 2007 5:12 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ship.1 == build 623, on initial MP systems. Now being upgraded in the field. Ship.2 == build 649, released last Friday, now in production from Quanta as of this Monday. Will be on all G1G1 machines. Update.1 == build TBD, now being put together. Should be released sometime in January. - Jim On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 13:07 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: Can someone point me to a document that explains what the flow is with respect to these branches (these are branches I presume) and what will be shipped on the G1G1 machines, Ceibal project, etc.? Thanks, Sameer -- Jim Gettys One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: WSJ
Hi Michael and all,
i agree with your thoughts about MikMik, it would be a nice tool to do
feedback , although yet its not entirely sugarized. i did an early work
that's on
http://dev.laptop.org/~rafael/MikMik-8.xo
but is not yet finished. so would be nice if somebody could help out with
this porting.
Cheers!
On Nov 25, 2007 8:32 PM, Michael Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
James, you might have heard of this software, but I'll share for the rest
of the list that might not have seen in in the pipeline...
On Nov 25, 2007 4:33 PM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1, insightful, useful. Some of the feedback mirrors what some of the
recent Wiki questions have covered, and I agree, we seem to lack
involvement in the Wiki from the trial deployments, the teacher
training, and the software re-use groups.
It might not be the proper fit, but Mako's MikMik [0] wiki software should
go a long way to solving this problem. Essentially, it is using distributed
version control (via BZR. Similar to the linux kernel development process
with Git) and merging it with wiki software. With it, when teachers (or
Peruvian high school students) start to documenting their work (either for
lectures, coarse outlines or general tips on XO support, etc), those commits
to the school server's wiki software can trickle 'upstream' to regional,
country or global OLPC wikis for others to use and further edit. Even
Wikipedia article edits (a portion of which we include on the school
server's content library) could be filtered and vetted (or fast-tracked,
depending on user experience) from a grammar school in Peru all the way over
to the florida colo servers of the Wiki media foundation. But it is a
longer-term project to make a process like that streamlined.
With that software (or the future iterations a work flow that MikMik
allows), getting feedback from the deployments will be a natural part of the
process.
[0] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/MikMik
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Re: [Localization] New localisation workflow: Overview and status
On 10/31/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/31/07, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Current Status ** Most of the scripts, etc are ready, and we are quite satisfied with the results of what we have seen so far using local repositories. The only major blocker issue that is left to be resolved is the question of GIT access to dev.laptop.org for the Pootle user. The most optimal solution for this is to use the newly released support for GIT submodules (where the po directory can be a separate submodule of a project). This isolates the PO directory from the rest of the project, minimising the chances of Pootle messing something other than translations :-). However, we would like to hear from developers on this - does having a new submodule under your project tree complicate your job ? Information on git submodules and how to use them is available at http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSubmoduleTutorial From my point of view this is not really necessary, we can keep on doing our actual simlinks and script scheme, although is not an entirely integration to git (from the pootle point of view), from the d.l.o side is the better solution, but anyway im not saying that we shouldn't keep on trying to find a complete solution for this, but this solution does not have to be so complex. So i agree with marco that we have to write a tutorial about this, but the procedure is not difficult, taking in count that we have to handle the translation sync from the translate machine, and this is made by git pull from all the activities. cheers! Is this really necessary? Git is complicated enough for new comers so if we can avoid additional complexity I think we should do it. Also, a short tutorial on how an activity author would set it up would probably help to evaluate this better. Thanks, Marco ___ Localization mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Capturing wireless traffic on the xo
Hi all, i've put this procedure in the wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wireless Feel free to add or correct the information. Cheers! On 10/22/07, Javier Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernie, As requested, here are the steps to capture wireless traffic on the xo: pre-req: yum install tcpdump killall NetworkManager then: echo $TRAFFIC_MASK /sys/class/net/msh0/device/libertas_rtap ifconfig rtap0 up tcpdump -i rtap0 -w capture.dump TRAFFIC_MASK bits: Data frames: 0x1 Mgmt frames but beacons: 0x2 Beacons: 0x4 You can then open capture.dump with wireshark. To interpret mesh traffic correctly, you will want to compile wireshark with this patch: https://cozybit1.dnsalias.org/~javier/patches/wireshark-0.99.5-fw-5.220.11-support.patch Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Javier ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [design] Lack of built-in serial and // port ?
Hi all, The serial port in the XO is designed for low level debugging, please see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Serial_adapters. Cheers! On 10/23/07, Ian Daniher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samir, IIRC, there *is* a serial port, but due to constraints I have not been made aware of, It isn't exposed, instead it is buried inside the case. Sorry I can't help more, -- Ian Daniher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype : it.daniher irc.freenode.com: DyDisMe On 10/23/07, Samir Saidani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have heard about the OLPC initiative a while ago, and recently I have decided to take a further look at this very interesting initiative... Here are first thoughts about it... I'm quite new to this project, and one thing that strikes me was the lack of built-in serial and parallel port. Why ? When you don't have a lot of money, you tend to use obsolete technology which are cheaper than the newer one, like parallel printers, serial modem, serial mouse, parallel scanner, etc ... This obsolete technology are easily available on poor countries, because it's easy for an non profit organization to send this kind of technology that almost nobody wants anymore (at least the enterprises, and the schools of rich countries update quite often their hardware and throw the old one to the garbage or donate it to a NPO). So you can have the old tech for free, because they often end into the gargage while they are still working great. And this is not a theory, we have founded here in France a npo which locally is working to give One Computer Per Child for 0 $. We have already a lot of computers, and we are slowing down the process to avoid a computer hardware overload... Recycling is an ecologic approach to the environment, and it seems that it is a concern of the whole OLPC initiative. Recycling allows you to do things by yourself with little money (or none at all). I know that there is a serial/USB interface, but I'm not sure that it would be as easy to use as built-in ports (possibility to lost it, unable to do it by yourself due to the complex USB electronics component...). So when you consider the target audience (poor countries, rural zone, poor people), I think this is a design mistake. Or at least it's reducing a lot the possibility of hacking and recycling obsolete hardware lying around. Maybe and probably do you have already talk about this matter ? Thanks ! Samir ___ Design mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/design ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] Improving quality
But, clearly that process has left out a lot of interested people, so we need to come up with something better that will allow us to make decisions relatively quickly, but will allow the contributions to come all interested people. Bernie's idea of summarizing each week where we are and what the discussions/decisions we need to work on is probably a good start. I try to do that in a weekly 'Ship' meeting; but maybe I need to move that Monday morning exercise to the devel and sugar lists rather than the local conference room. That way everyone will know where we need to focus energy that week and can contribute to that email thread. I think this is really better for the porpuse of making OLPC project stronger, i mean, we were letting people behind close doors that could make interesting contributions to the projects..so the idea of moving the discussions to devel and sugar is very good. On 9/16/07, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually ate the dog food for a whole week and wrote a long review about the experience[1], with a few suggestions on how to improve the GUI and a few other things. Apparently, it was ignored, but hey, no hard feelings. I'm still doing a few other experiments to see how to improve the existing software and now with the bug tracker finally open again, I think I'll go back to write the missing tickets. -Ivo [1] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2007-September/003284.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: wireless networking
Hi For more info you could see. [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wireless [2]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mesh_Network_Details [3]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking [4]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mesh_Network_FAQ All of these are usefull but for your purpose [2] its interesting On 9/13/07, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 14:08 +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Hi all, Got the delivery of two B4 machines and joined the list today. I am trying to test the system, so would like to get some help. I am starting with networking; I have not yet updated to the latest OS image, though. I got the two machines side by side. Shouldn't they see each other in Sugar's neighboorhood? I opened the terminal and set them to the same essid but still no sign. Yes, iwconfig is incompatible with NetworkManager because iwconfig changes the parameters underneath NM. You also need an IP address before the two will talk, and when NM manages the connection, it'll do that for you automatically. If you connect them both to the same AP using the GUI, or you remove the saved network config bits in ~/.sugar/default/nm/networks and just start them up and wait a while, they will fall back to channel 1 and mesh with each other. Dan Also, should they not see other AdHoc machines around them (say other windows, linux, OSX). Suggestions? Victor Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero OLPC Colombia http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Colombia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
