Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?
On 18 June 2011 04:58, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Not 100% sure, but the conditions changed a little bit since then: * The journal integrates a better with external storage devices. * There are good bindings for fuse (even in python). I think that a fuse-based-network-file-system could be a pretty flexible and valid option for entry-level backup in XS over LAN (for that particular scope). I am not talking about running an OS on top of it, or using it to replace the local storage over the internet. Is just my opinion though based on what I have tested so far. +1 This is a priority for us. We get requests from teachers all the time about being able to access a files server, and sharing files between Sugar and GNOME. Cheers, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 18 June 2011 04:58, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Not 100% sure, but the conditions changed a little bit since then: * The journal integrates a better with external storage devices. * There are good bindings for fuse (even in python). I think that a fuse-based-network-file-system could be a pretty flexible and valid option for entry-level backup in XS over LAN (for that particular scope). I am not talking about running an OS on top of it, or using it to replace the local storage over the internet. Is just my opinion though based on what I have tested so far. +1 This is a priority for us. We get requests from teachers all the time about being able to access a files server, and sharing files between Sugar and GNOME. There was a thread about this way back (started by me!!!...I must be getting old) about dumping to another filesystem. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024459.html The code mentioned in this thread was in the context of the school server and was written in Mono. This was also before we shipped GNOME + Sugar, so the context was a bit different. cheers, Sameer Cheers, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?
Actually, I have been playing with it in the last 2 days. What I am basically doing (as a proof on concept) is a xmlrpc-FUSE filesystem. Since FUSE provides a native FS interaction there is nothing special to be done, _it works_ (I mean it literally) just as a external storage device. What is very interesting about this approach is that is available also from gnome and that it doesn't require anything new/extra in sugar. If someone is interested I can upload the code somewhere this weekend. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I've been messing with FUSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace) in another context (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoe_Least-Authority_Filesystem) and was wondering if the Sugar Journal would talk to FUSE in any way. That might allow us to bridge Nautilus field manager and the Journal. Although I can't imagine this never came up before... cheers, Sameer ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?
Not 100% sure, but the conditions changed a little bit since then: * The journal integrates a better with external storage devices. * There are good bindings for fuse (even in python). I think that a fuse-based-network-file-system could be a pretty flexible and valid option for entry-level backup in XS over LAN (for that particular scope). I am not talking about running an OS on top of it, or using it to replace the local storage over the internet. Is just my opinion though based on what I have tested so far. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: There are other older intents: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/014815.html http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg14612.html Gonzalo On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I have been playing with it in the last 2 days. What I am basically doing (as a proof on concept) is a xmlrpc-FUSE filesystem. Since FUSE provides a native FS interaction there is nothing special to be done, _it works_ (I mean it literally) just as a external storage device. What is very interesting about this approach is that is available also from gnome and that it doesn't require anything new/extra in sugar. If someone is interested I can upload the code somewhere this weekend. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I've been messing with FUSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace) in another context (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoe_Least-Authority_Filesystem) and was wondering if the Sugar Journal would talk to FUSE in any way. That might allow us to bridge Nautilus field manager and the Journal. Although I can't imagine this never came up before... cheers, Sameer ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?
There are other older intents: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/014815.html http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg14612.html Gonzalo On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I have been playing with it in the last 2 days. What I am basically doing (as a proof on concept) is a xmlrpc-FUSE filesystem. Since FUSE provides a native FS interaction there is nothing special to be done, _it works_ (I mean it literally) just as a external storage device. What is very interesting about this approach is that is available also from gnome and that it doesn't require anything new/extra in sugar. If someone is interested I can upload the code somewhere this weekend. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I've been messing with FUSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace) in another context (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoe_Least-Authority_Filesystem) and was wondering if the Sugar Journal would talk to FUSE in any way. That might allow us to bridge Nautilus field manager and the Journal. Although I can't imagine this never came up before... cheers, Sameer ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] FUSE for Journal?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I have been playing with it in the last 2 days. What I am basically doing (as a proof on concept) is a xmlrpc-FUSE filesystem. Since FUSE provides a native FS interaction there is nothing special to be done, _it works_ (I mean it literally) just as a external storage device. What is very interesting about this approach is that is available also from gnome and that it doesn't require anything new/extra in sugar. If someone is interested I can upload the code somewhere this weekend. Oh, good! So someone else *is* thinking about this as well :-) I was thinking of FUSE in the context of the ongoing discussion on IAEP and elsewhere of the Journal being difficult to interoperate with the expectation of a file manager. cheers, Sameer On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I've been messing with FUSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace) in another context (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoe_Least-Authority_Filesystem) and was wondering if the Sugar Journal would talk to FUSE in any way. That might allow us to bridge Nautilus field manager and the Journal. Although I can't imagine this never came up before... cheers, Sameer ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel