Re: [support-gang] 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
The Sugar Commander Activity I put together lets you do interesting things with the Journal even if you're using an old version of Sugar. You can sort Journal entries by name, MIME type, size, etc. both ascending and descending. You can see the screen grab and metadata for a Journal entry on the same screen as the list of Journal entries is on. You can resize images and make them take up less disk space. You can see the contents of thumb drives and SD cards as a hierarchical file system instead of as imitating the Journal. You can copy files into the Journal from anywhere on the file system. It is my idea of what the Journal should be like. You can check it out here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4291 James Simmons > Journal entries, especially ones that are just metadata that an activity > was used are very small amounts of data on the disk. I think perhaps the > worst case would be if a child is making lots of video or audio recordings > using the Record activity, EToys projects, and perhaps Paint being the next > worse for disk size. I would love to know what children are using up their > disk space with. I'm guessing some of it is downloads of the less disk space > efficient Activity software ports from Gnome (Tux Paint, Open Office, > Firefox, some of the GCompris activities), and perhaps using Browse to save > music, video and pictures from the Internet. Would be great if you have any > information/data on how you see children have used up most of their disk > space! > > With the new builds OLPC are currently finishing up for release, the > version of Sugar in them supports sorting the Journal by size, and by > creation date (in addition to the default modification date). Sorting by > size is great for tracking down where all your disk space went, sorting by > creation date is helpful when you are looking for work you know you started > last Monday, or at the beginning of term, or you can remember other > activities you did at the same time (I took 5 photos and then started the > essay I'm looking for). > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
e interruption" >> >> Yes, I'm agree. >> Also is annoying is to have the obligation (not freedom) the save something >> .. >> For example, when I use the Activity Maze, entered to play at level 1. When >> I return to the entrance that, start in 1! That's the point? Many of the >> activities create an entry "habit", butbear no relevant information, > > For the Maze activity, this is considered a missing feature. I'm pretty sure > we have a bug ticket (or two) open requesting that a resumed Maze activity > continues from the level you had last reached (and perhaps having a leader > board for who solved the maze first/second/third for each level completed). > Over time, Activities are getting better and better at keeping useful state > in the Journal (have you experimented with the Physics activity yet?), we > need to keep on making sure activity designers make best use of Journal state. > >> and generate an endless list of meaningless entries(knowing that no labels >> are used). In addition, save the entries as a record of what thechild does >> (one kind of blog, journal) in practice is not viable .. Maybe I'm wrong > > Well I'd argue over 'endless list of meaningless entries' ;-) I think even > with the limited metadata we currently do keep it would be great if local > deployments collected some random samples of counts of activity usage. This > would be VERY useful information for the translation teams to make sure the > activities being used are localised in the languages most needed; for > activity developers to decide which bugs and features to work on first; for > usage time patterns for considering perhaps power saving improvements, and > other design needs; for object disk sizes so developers can focus on > optimising the activities that most fill up disk space. To my knowledge I've > not yet seen any deployment feedback data from actual usage – the best I have > so far is trying to keep a general eye on the activities that deployments are > choosing to install by default on their local builds. > > Kind Regards, > --Gary > >> .. >> >>> Thanks for taking the time to write some feedback, hope the above was >>> of some help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> --Gary >>> >> >> Alan >> >> >> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 >> Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review >> From: gonz...@laptop.org >> To: alan...@hotmail.com >> CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm down the new version ... >> >> When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the >> journal entry.. >> >> Is like this? (capture01.png) >> >> Why is not this? (capture02.png) >> >> >> God question. >> What is your idea about the X icon? >> Do not close the activity? >> There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. >> Close the activity without saving? >> >> >> Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... >> >> All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to >> save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... >> >> >> If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, >> is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? >> >> Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance >> of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. >> >> Gonzalo >> >> Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... >> >> I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 >> > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review >> > From: d...@laptop.org >> > To: devel@lists.laptop.org >> >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and >> > by any other interested contributors: >> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 >> > >> > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. >> > >> > cheers >> > Daniel >> > ___ >> > Devel mailing list >> > Devel@lists.laptop.org >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
had last reached (and perhaps having a leader board for who solved the maze first/second/third for each level completed). Over time, Activities are getting better and better at keeping useful state in the Journal (have you experimented with the Physics activity yet?), we need to keep on making sure activity designers make best use of Journal state. > and generate an endless list of meaningless entries(knowing that no labels > are used). In addition, save the entries as a record of what thechild does > (one kind of blog, journal) in practice is not viable .. Maybe I'm wrong Well I'd argue over 'endless list of meaningless entries' ;-) I think even with the limited metadata we currently do keep it would be great if local deployments collected some random samples of counts of activity usage. This would be VERY useful information for the translation teams to make sure the activities being used are localised in the languages most needed; for activity developers to decide which bugs and features to work on first; for usage time patterns for considering perhaps power saving improvements, and other design needs; for object disk sizes so developers can focus on optimising the activities that most fill up disk space. To my knowledge I've not yet seen any deployment feedback data from actual usage – the best I have so far is trying to keep a general eye on the activities that deployments are choosing to install by default on their local builds. Kind Regards, --Gary > .. > >> Thanks for taking the time to write some feedback, hope the above was >> of some help. >> >> Regards, >> --Gary >> > > Alan > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 > Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > From: gonz...@laptop.org > To: alan...@hotmail.com > CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm down the new version ... > > When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the > journal entry.. > > Is like this? (capture01.png) > > Why is not this? (capture02.png) > > > God question. > What is your idea about the X icon? > Do not close the activity? > There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. > Close the activity without saving? > > > Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... > > All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to > save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... > > > If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, > is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? > > Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance > of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. > > Gonzalo > > Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... > > I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... > > Alan > > > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 > > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > > From: d...@laptop.org > > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > > > > Hi, > > > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > > by any other interested contributors: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. > > > > cheers > > Daniel > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
Hi Gary, Complicated! ;) As to why there is no 'don't save', well a couple of points: 1) the Journal was designed to be a log of activity not just a flat list of saved data files, it would be great to have more interesting metadata auto stored (e.g. length of time spent in activity, number of times resumed), and/or to be able to better encourage the child to write short descriptions about what they were doing for later review (e.g. "I searched google for cool pictures of sharks with lasers, for my school essay, but didn't find one I liked."). Yes, in theory. I am Uruguayan. I have seen thousands of XO .. No one uses the journal that way, the little disk space (1 GB 400 MB are available) and when you have hundreds of entries, and begins to complicate, to walk slower. And the problem of "find nothing" is repeated often. Cause: You may need to teach children the proper use of labels. But the kids out of an activity and never notice that ... I have come across many machines you have to reflash because it does not leave or enter the newspaper to delete things (in old sugar images, in this new I not do a stress test) ... 2) The naming dialogue was added as an opportunity for the child to provide a useful name, description and tags when they stop a new activity instance. The activity state will very likely havebeen already automatically stored in the Journal (e.g. activity state is stored in the Journal whenever you switch views). So the 'don't save' button would really be an 'erase this entry from the journal' button. Changing the implementation of the saved, change this too FWIW, there is already an accepted design for dropping this naming dialogue (at least one deployment has already removed it from their builds) as the psychology of a user who has just clicked 'Stop' is one of "get me out of here, I want to do something else now", not "I would like to describe what I was just doing", most folks seem to skips past the dialogue as fast as they can, annoyed/distracted by the interruption. The replacement design is a system wide 'detail view' dialogue (similar features as per the current Journal details view) that can be opened at the users discretion while working in an activity. "most folks seem to skips past the dialogue as fast as they can, annoyed/distracted by the interruption"Yes, I'm agree. Also is annoying is to have the obligation (not freedom) the save something .. For example, when I use the Activity Maze, entered to play at level 1. When I return to the entrance that, start in 1! That's the point? Many of the activities create an entry "habit", butbear no relevant information, and generate an endless list of meaningless entries(knowing that no labels are used). In addition, save the entries as a record of what thechild does (one kind of blog, journal) in practice is not viable .. Maybe I'm wrong .. Thanks for taking the time to write some feedback, hope the above was of some help. Regards,--Gary Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: gonz...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, I'm down the new version ... When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal entry.. Is like this? (capture01.png) Why is not this? (capture02.png) God question. What is your idea about the X icon? Do not close the activity? There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. Close the activity without saving? Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. Gonzalo Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... Alan > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > From: d...@laptop.org > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > Hi, > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > by any other interested contributors: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > Feedback n
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
Hi Alan, On 21 Jul 2011, at 00:37, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: > > The idea of the X is not save the entry.. > > to avoid a shutdown by mistake could add the classic triangle of return ... > > The final windows may be with 3 options: > > Triangle: return to the activity (The problem is that usually the activity is > closed) > > Cross: don't save the entry in the journal.. > > Tick: save the entry > > It's a simple system, no? Or is't complicated? Complicated! ;) As to why there is no 'don't save', well a couple of points: 1) the Journal was designed to be a log of activity not just a flat list of saved data files, it would be great to have more interesting metadata auto stored (e.g. length of time spent in activity, number of times resumed), and/or to be able to better encourage the child to write short descriptions about what they were doing for later review (e.g. "I searched google for cool pictures of sharks with lasers, for my school essay, but didn't find one I liked."). 2) The naming dialogue was added as an opportunity for the child to provide a useful name, description and tags when they stop a new activity instance. The activity state will very likely have been already automatically stored in the Journal (e.g. activity state is stored in the Journal whenever you switch views). So the 'don't save' button would really be an 'erase this entry from the journal' button. FWIW, there is already an accepted design for dropping this naming dialogue (at least one deployment has already removed it from their builds) as the psychology of a user who has just clicked 'Stop' is one of "get me out of here, I want to do something else now", not "I would like to describe what I was just doing", most folks seem to skips past the dialogue as fast as they can, annoyed/distracted by the interruption. The replacement design is a system wide 'detail view' dialogue (similar features as per the current Journal details view) that can be opened at the users discretion while working in an activity. Thanks for taking the time to write some feedback, hope the above was of some help. Regards, --Gary > > Alan > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 > Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > From: gonz...@laptop.org > To: alan...@hotmail.com > CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm down the new version ... > > When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the > journal entry.. > > Is like this? (capture01.png) > > Why is not this? (capture02.png) > > > God question. > What is your idea about the X icon? > Do not close the activity? > There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. > Close the activity without saving? > > > Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... > > All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to > save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... > > > If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, > is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? > > Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance > of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. > > Gonzalo > > Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... > > I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... > > Alan > > > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 > > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > > From: d...@laptop.org > > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > > > > Hi, > > > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > > by any other interested contributors: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. > > > > cheers > > Daniel > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
The idea of the X is not save the entry.. to avoid a shutdown by mistake could add the classic triangle of return ... The final windows may be with 3 options: Triangle: return to the activity (The problem is that usually the activity is closed) Cross: don't save the entry in the journal.. Tick: save the entry It's a simple system, no? Or is't complicated? Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: gonz...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, I'm down the new version ... When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal entry.. Is like this? (capture01.png) Why is not this? (capture02.png) God question. What is your idea about the X icon? Do not close the activity? There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. Close the activity without saving? Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. Gonzalo Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... Alan > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > From: d...@laptop.org > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > Hi, > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > by any other interested contributors: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. > > cheers > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn < alan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm down the new version ... > > When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal > entry.. > > Is like this? (capture01.png) > > Why is not this? (capture02.png) > > God question. What is your idea about the X icon? Do not close the activity? There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. Close the activity without saving? > Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... > > All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to > save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... > > If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. Gonzalo > Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any > system... > > I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... > > Alan > > > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 > > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > > From: d...@laptop.org > > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > > > > Hi, > > > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > > by any other interested contributors: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. > > > > cheers > > Daniel > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
james wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 07:00:24AM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: > > - regarding sparse fs-updates: it occurred to me that we could > > probably improve on the "strange" look by changing the updater so that > > every block's color changes. skipped blocks could have their colors > > changed when skipped, perhaps to a different shade of the same color > > used for written blocks. > > Yes, that's possible. > > However, I don't think now is a good time to do it, because the release > is so near. I think we've lost the opportunity to fix it. certainly not. i agree. > > While it is different to how it was before, it still does indicate > install progress, just that it jumps forward. > > We've had the odd "I'm not sure if it is working" response from our > testing community, but after the initial reaction I've heard nothing > more. So it is a training issue that can be solved by education. > > If we release as is, then I don't think we should change it back in a > later release. That will just confuse people more. it wouldn't be changing it "back". it would be almost just like it is now, except that the blocks that are left gray now would become a different shade of green than the data-filled blocks. it's not a big deal. paul > > Still, if there is consensus that it should be changed, I'm happy to > investigate it. > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 07:00:24AM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: > - regarding sparse fs-updates: it occurred to me that we could > probably improve on the "strange" look by changing the updater so that > every block's color changes. skipped blocks could have their colors > changed when skipped, perhaps to a different shade of the same color > used for written blocks. Yes, that's possible. However, I don't think now is a good time to do it, because the release is so near. I think we've lost the opportunity to fix it. While it is different to how it was before, it still does indicate install progress, just that it jumps forward. We've had the odd "I'm not sure if it is working" response from our testing community, but after the initial reaction I've heard nothing more. So it is a training issue that can be solved by education. If we release as is, then I don't think we should change it back in a later release. That will just confuse people more. Still, if there is consensus that it should be changed, I'm happy to investigate it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
Hi, I'm down the new version ... When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal entry.. Is like this? (capture01.png) Why is not this? (capture02.png) Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button tosave the entry in the journal and need to delete it... Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... Alan > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 > Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review > From: d...@laptop.org > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > Hi, > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > by any other interested contributors: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. > > cheers > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel <><>___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
On 20 July 2011 12:14, Walter Bender wrote: > 11.2 supports the new toolbars, so the pictures illustrating the > activities should us the new toolbars. If you agree, I am happy to > upload new versions. Please feel free. > Also, where as there has been significant changes to Turtle Blocks > since 10.1.3, perhaps the following text could be added to the > significant activities update section: > > * [http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 Turtle > Blocks] has many enhancements to its sensor support; more robust > sharing; and includes many new examples. Sounds good, please go ahead and make this addition. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > by any other interested contributors: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. 11.2 supports the new toolbars, so the pictures illustrating the activities should us the new toolbars. If you agree, I am happy to upload new versions. Also, where as there has been significant changes to Turtle Blocks since 10.1.3, perhaps the following text could be added to the significant activities update section: * [http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4027 Turtle Blocks] has many enhancements to its sensor support; more robust sharing; and includes many new examples. regards. -walter > > cheers > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
daniel wrote: > Hi, > > The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and > by any other interested contributors: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 > > Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. - i'm not sure mentioning Skype is worthwhile, unless we know it works (reasonably). it never has before -- has this changed? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0#New_XO-1.5_video_driver - regarding sparse fs-updates: it occurred to me that we could probably improve on the "strange" look by changing the updater so that every block's color changes. skipped blocks could have their colors changed when skipped, perhaps to a different shade of the same color used for written blocks. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0#Faster_installation_for_XO-1.5 paul > > cheers > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
11.2.0 release notes ready for review
Hi, The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and by any other interested contributors: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. cheers Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
