Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
Walter Bender wrote: > There is no T-Mobile hotspot outside of lounges at Logan. They have > granted a monopoly to a woefully inadequate provider. A year ago I was using a B1 unit with T-mobile after my regular laptop self-destructed on a work trip through Europe. (I already have a T-mobile web account) Since then, I've connected various X0 models through T-mobile many times around the world, as it often gets better signal strength than my Compal laptop. Nice when the airline terminal is far from the access point... For another data point, I've never had any trouble getting connected since about build 300 or so. The keyboard drives me a bit nuts, but you get used to it. Mutt and fetchmail run decently on the X0 when you need them to. :-) I used to get funny looks doing this, (the little green machine with ears) but it was always a good time to explain the OLPC project. The last few months it seems like everyone has heard of the OLPC project, and most wholeheartedly think it's a great idea. - rob - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
There is no T-Mobile hotspot outside of lounges at Logan. They have granted a monopoly to a woefully inadequate provider. -walter On Dec 27, 2007 5:57 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 27, 2007 5:01 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alas, try logging into the WiFi system at Boston's Logan Airport. > > Can't you use the T-Mobile hotspot? > -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
On Dec 27, 2007 5:01 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alas, try logging into the WiFi system at Boston's Logan Airport. Can't you use the T-Mobile hotspot? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
Alas, try logging into the WiFi system at Boston's Logan Airport. I've not been able to get the website to let me select alternative service provider using either Firefox of Opera on an Ubuntu machine... Haven't tried recently with an XO; maybe I'll have better luck. -walter On Dec 27, 2007 4:57 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 26, 2007 7:20 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. My experience with wireless in hotels and Linux is that: > > I've seen those (sometimes with JS/HTML breakage that would only work > in IE) in the past, but they are mostly gone or going away. You can > always get ie4linux if you have disk space for it. Or WebKit-GTK (for > a Safari-lookalike). > > In the last 2 years I haven't seen any breakage with APs on > linux/firefox. Perhaps I'm just lucky but I've done a lot of > travelling... > > cheers, > > > > m > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
On Dec 26, 2007 7:20 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. My experience with wireless in hotels and Linux is that: I've seen those (sometimes with JS/HTML breakage that would only work in IE) in the past, but they are mostly gone or going away. You can always get ie4linux if you have disk space for it. Or WebKit-GTK (for a Safari-lookalike). In the last 2 years I haven't seen any breakage with APs on linux/firefox. Perhaps I'm just lucky but I've done a lot of travelling... cheers, m ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
On Tuesday 25 December 2007, Vern Ceder wrote: > > a. You usually need Windows and IE to authenticate the first time. > > This isn't a problem because my other laptops have been dual-booted, but > > the XO isn't and won't be. > > I've NEVER run across a site where I couldn't log in with Firefox, > although I did have some trouble with my Nokia N800 browser (Opera > based, I think) at the Denver airport last month. Same here, but I remember one case where a hotel had a system that relied on the specific (mis)behavior of the Windows name resolver, as it was returning DNS replies with an incorrect source address in order to redirect web browsers to the login page. Windows and MacOS X accepted these just fine, while Linux didn't... Arnd <>< ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
> With the XO, though, I'm planning to use it more like a laptop -- only > connect to AC when required. Is that easier on the battery, harder on > the battery, or about the same as what I've done with my older > laptops? I'm not a battery wizard. To first order, I'd expect battery lifetime to be measured in charge-discharge cycles. >b. I've had a number of instances where something in the way the > Linux wireless configuration (it's a DHCP thing) can actually crash > the hotel's wireless infrastructure and require a reboot of it! This > has happened to me (and possibly other hotel guests at the same time) > at least three times. If that happens with an XO, I'd suggest trying to find out what type of gear they have and/or who to contact so somebody can work on understanding and fixing the problem. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A couple of "adult use case" questions
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > 2. My experience with wireless in hotels and Linux is that: I've used Linux as my ONLY OS on laptops for about 6 years. I travel about once a month and over the past few years have connected to wifi networks at airports and hotels (everything from Motel 6 to Mariotts and Hiltons, as well as T-Mobile spots). My experiences have been different... >a. You usually need Windows and IE to authenticate the first time. > This isn't a problem because my other laptops have been dual-booted, but > the XO isn't and won't be. I've NEVER run across a site where I couldn't log in with Firefox, although I did have some trouble with my Nokia N800 browser (Opera based, I think) at the Denver airport last month. >b. I've had a number of instances where something in the way the > Linux wireless configuration (it's a DHCP thing) can actually crash the > hotel's wireless infrastructure and require a reboot of it! Again, I've never run across that while traveling, nor at the school where we have some Linux laptops as DHCP clients. I wonder if the systems you experienced this are Windows based? Or a particular access point? In years of running DHCP servers on Linux, I can't remember having a DHCP server crash, certainly not to point of requiring a reboot. Mind you, I'm not denying your experience, just providing a another data point. Cheers, Vern -- This time for sure! -Bullwinkle J. Moose - Vern Ceder, Director of Technology Canterbury School, 3210 Smith Road, Ft Wayne, IN 46804 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 260-436-0746; FAX: 260-436-5137 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
A couple of "adult use case" questions
1. My typical use of laptops is nearly always with the AC adapter plugged in. I don't travel a lot, and when I do, I generally don't operate the laptop in an aircraft. I've been told that this is harder on batteries than allowing them to discharge and recharge. With the XO, though, I'm planning to use it more like a laptop -- only connect to AC when required. Is that easier on the battery, harder on the battery, or about the same as what I've done with my older laptops? 2. My experience with wireless in hotels and Linux is that: a. You usually need Windows and IE to authenticate the first time. This isn't a problem because my other laptops have been dual-booted, but the XO isn't and won't be. b. I've had a number of instances where something in the way the Linux wireless configuration (it's a DHCP thing) can actually crash the hotel's wireless infrastructure and require a reboot of it! This has happened to me (and possibly other hotel guests at the same time) at least three times. I don't know enough about the details to know exactly what the mechanism is, but again, since I wouldn't have Windows, I wouldn't be able to follow the support tech's instructions if I crashed it. Of course, this use case is 180 degrees away from the reason the machine was designed. But still, if I do go on the road, say, to a G1G1 conference somewhere, are things like this going to be a problem? Conversely, if there *are* going to be G1G1 conferences, might I suggest that they be held on a university campus rather than in a hotel? :) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
