Re: EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Klaus Weidner
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:50:10PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:09 , Klaus Weidner wrote:
> >
> > I've now read the old thread, and I think there's some confusion  
> > between
> > a "page" being a screenful versus being the paper sheet to which I've
> > contributed, sorry.
> 
> Wouldn't a "real" EBook reader be much more useful than displaying  
> PDFs? You know, one that reflows pages automatically, where I can  
> adjust font size etc. Is this planned or even in existence already?

I think these are two quite independent areas, and it would of course be
useful to have good support for reflowable books. The evince-based reader
appears fundamentally designed to work with non-reflowable pre-laid-out
text, and changing that would be difficult. 

Instead of having a completely separate application, would it make sense
to enhance the "Browse" functionality to work with e-books? Converters to
HTML should be available for most common formats. In order to be a nice
book reader, it would be good to have more features such as better
table-of-contents handling and bookmarks that remember the position in
the document, and both of these would also be useful for web pages. It's
a blurry line between a web page being read offline and an e-book,
especially for the XO's intended use for kids who are likely to have
spotty Internet access.

I'm using the Scrapbook extension for Firefox a lot
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/427), and I think
something along those lines would work fairly well for reflowable
e-books. Clicking a link to an e-book file would convert it to HTML on
the fly, storing it in the scrapbook, where it would remain available for
later reading.

-Klaus
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Re: EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Samuel Klein
Yes, that's it.  You can see a couple of books displayed with it here
: http://ejohn.org/apps/ebook/

SJ

On Jan 27, 2008 10:41 AM, Chas. Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2008 8:37 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We had a "real" ebook reader written by John Resig in the days of the
> > B2 hardware. I thin the project has sat untouched ever since. It would
> > be worth reexamining.
> snip
>
> Where might the source be?  I took a look on the activites page and
> did not see it.  Is it ebook-browser-reader in git.laptop.org?
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Re: EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Jerry Van Baren
I don't know how/if it fits, but I've been using FBReader on my n800 and 
it is very, very good.
   

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gvb


Walter Bender wrote:
> We had a "real" ebook reader written by John Resig in the days of the
> B2 hardware. I thin the project has sat untouched ever since. It would
> be worth reexamining.
> 
> -walter
> 
> On 1/27/08, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:09 , Klaus Weidner wrote:
>>> I've now read the old thread, and I think there's some confusion
>>> between
>>> a "page" being a screenful versus being the paper sheet to which I've
>>> contributed, sorry.
>> Wouldn't a "real" EBook reader be much more useful than displaying
>> PDFs? You know, one that reflows pages automatically, where I can
>> adjust font size etc. Is this planned or even in existence already?
>>
>> - Bert -
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Re: EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Chas. Owens
On Jan 27, 2008 8:37 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had a "real" ebook reader written by John Resig in the days of the
> B2 hardware. I thin the project has sat untouched ever since. It would
> be worth reexamining.
snip

Where might the source be?  I took a look on the activites page and
did not see it.  Is it ebook-browser-reader in git.laptop.org?
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Re: EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Walter Bender
We had a "real" ebook reader written by John Resig in the days of the
B2 hardware. I thin the project has sat untouched ever since. It would
be worth reexamining.

-walter

On 1/27/08, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:09 , Klaus Weidner wrote:
> >
> > I've now read the old thread, and I think there's some confusion
> > between
> > a "page" being a screenful versus being the paper sheet to which I've
> > contributed, sorry.
>
> Wouldn't a "real" EBook reader be much more useful than displaying
> PDFs? You know, one that reflows pages automatically, where I can
> adjust font size etc. Is this planned or even in existence already?
>
> - Bert -
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EBook Reader (was Re: [PATCH] RFC: ReadActivity fullscreen, paging changes)

2008-01-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:09 , Klaus Weidner wrote:
>
> I've now read the old thread, and I think there's some confusion  
> between
> a "page" being a screenful versus being the paper sheet to which I've
> contributed, sorry.

Wouldn't a "real" EBook reader be much more useful than displaying  
PDFs? You know, one that reflows pages automatically, where I can  
adjust font size etc. Is this planned or even in existence already?

- Bert -
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