Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-31 Thread Jim Gettys
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Marshall wrote:
 S Page wrote:
  Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 
  Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in
  poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB.
 
  I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on 
  poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2).  Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. 
  http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats
 
  Speaking of Evince, does Read support DjVu in 8.2.0? 
  http://djvu.org/docs/ has some test files.
  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2448 says yes, but 
  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6223 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6426 
  suggest no.
  I don't care, except that http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image_file_formats 
  presents DjVu as OLPC's preferred e-book file format.
 
 I have to vote that I do care.  DjVu is much more efficiently rendered
 at high resolution being designed for that purpose.  In fact, DjVu format
 is efficient enough that often a direct scan of a document at 300dpi
 compressed to DjVu format is smaller and faster displayed than a PDF
 file of the same document.  I believe some timings were reported in
 a previous thread around the bug ticket: #6223.  A look at the
 ticket indicates it has been pushed back to 9.1.0.
 
 --Chris
 

Things not in trac tend to get forgotten  Is it in trac?  If so,
what bug?
  - Jim

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Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-31 Thread Chris Marshall
Jim Gettys wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Marshall wrote:
 S Page wrote:
 Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

 Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in
 poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB.
 I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on 
 poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2).  Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. 
 http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats

 Speaking of Evince, does Read support DjVu in 8.2.0? 
 http://djvu.org/docs/ has some test files.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2448 says yes, but 
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6223 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6426 
 suggest no.
 I don't care, except that http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image_file_formats 
 presents DjVu as OLPC's preferred e-book file format.
 I have to vote that I do care.  DjVu is much more efficiently rendered
 at high resolution being designed for that purpose.  In fact, DjVu format
 is efficient enough that often a direct scan of a document at 300dpi
 compressed to DjVu format is smaller and faster displayed than a PDF
 file of the same document.  I believe some timings were reported in
 a previous thread around the bug ticket: #6223.  A look at the
 ticket indicates it has been pushed back to 9.1.0.

 --Chris

 
 Things not in trac tend to get forgotten  Is it in trac?  If so,
 what bug?
   - Jim
 

As I mentioned:

   http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6223

I saw a mention yesterday that something had changed with
evince on the XO and that that might have fixed the djvu
reading problem.  I have not had time to test.

--Chris

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Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Marshall
S Page wrote:
 Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

 Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in
 poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB.

 I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on 
 poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2).  Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. 
 http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats

 Speaking of Evince, does Read support DjVu in 8.2.0? 
 http://djvu.org/docs/ has some test files.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2448 says yes, but 
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6223 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6426 
 suggest no.
 I don't care, except that http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image_file_formats 
 presents DjVu as OLPC's preferred e-book file format.

I have to vote that I do care.  DjVu is much more efficiently rendered
at high resolution being designed for that purpose.  In fact, DjVu format
is efficient enough that often a direct scan of a document at 300dpi
compressed to DjVu format is smaller and faster displayed than a PDF
file of the same document.  I believe some timings were reported in
a previous thread around the bug ticket: #6223.  A look at the
ticket indicates it has been pushed back to 9.1.0.

--Chris


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Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-29 Thread S Page
Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

 Noticed that sugar-evince 2.20.1.1-3.olpc3 brought in
 poppler 0.6.2-5.olpc3, which is 3 MB.

I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on 
poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2).  Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. 
http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats

Speaking of Evince, does Read support DjVu in 8.2.0? 
http://djvu.org/docs/ has some test files.
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2448 says yes, but 
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6223 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6426 
suggest no.
I don't care, except that http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image_file_formats 
presents DjVu as OLPC's preferred e-book file format.

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Re: Evince (was Re: New joyride build 2222)

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:46 -0700, S Page wrote:
 I think 8.1.0 and 8.1.1 have the same dependency (on 
 poppler-0.6.2.4-olpc2).  Evince needs Poppler to render PDFs. 
 http://live.gnome.org/Evince/SupportedDocumentFormats

Yes, bringing in poppler was intentional. The lack of poppler was what
was breaking Read.

 Speaking of Evince, does Read support DjVu in 8.2.0? 

The rpm changelog suggested so. Can you try it out with a recent
joyride?

Thanks,
Daniel


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