Re: Flash Tests
Oops...sorry about the case sensitive gaffetry sudo yum update -x . Sudo Yum Update? Not so much. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Flash-tests-tp1092716p1143298.html Sent from the OLPC Software development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
Hi, Some related news from the haXe world: "Ogg Vorbis implementation in pure haXe" http://lists.motion-twin.com/pipermail/haxe/2008-October/019856.html more details: http://barelyfocused.net/blog/2008/10/03/flash-vorbis-player/ Zjnue ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
Carlos Nazareno wrote: > > Now the worst part is that now I can't > yum update > > says I'm missing network dependencies :-/ > > :( > > -Naz > Howdy, Try Sudo Yum Update -x where is whichever one that is missing dependencies. If one package won't yum update then none in the queue will yum update. Same in Yumex, only prettier. It's NetworkManager-glib on my xo running joyride-2500. Sudo yum update -x NetworkManger-glib works for me. Have you done the RPM-GPG-KEY patch since the recent Fedora server problems? Dunno, might help. BTW, Flash = slow with no sound, (Gnash not fit for duty at all). ¡Gracias! genesee -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Flash-tests-tp1092716p1132980.html Sent from the OLPC Software development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:59 AM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ugh. > > Okay, in an attempt to get sound working with Gnash 8.3.0 > (preinstalled with build 766), I did the following: > > su > wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-9.rpm > rpm -vi livna-release-9.rpm > > Now livna is part of my repositories. > > next I did > yum install gstreamer-ffmpeg > > it installed, so far so good. > > No dice with sound in Gnash still. > > So I try > yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly > > Doesn't want to install, says I have missing dependencies. Now the > dependencies are in gstreamer-plugins-good, I believe, but when I try > to > yum install gstreamer-plugins-good > it says already installed. yup, this is because of our old version of gstreamer. I don't know if there will be an easy fix, you might be able to update gstreamer if you don't care about Record behavior. > same with yum install gstreamer-plugins-base > > Now the worst part is that now I can't > yum update > > says I'm missing network dependencies :-/ might be a temporary problem, but you could try: sudo yum clean all (this was suggested to me last time I was having yum trouble by the nice people of IRC in #fedora on FreeNode) bobby > > :( > > -Naz > > -- > Carlos Nazareno > http://www.object404.com > > interactive media specialist > zen graffiti studios > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
Ugh. Okay, in an attempt to get sound working with Gnash 8.3.0 (preinstalled with build 766), I did the following: su wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-9.rpm rpm -vi livna-release-9.rpm Now livna is part of my repositories. next I did yum install gstreamer-ffmpeg it installed, so far so good. No dice with sound in Gnash still. So I try yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly Doesn't want to install, says I have missing dependencies. Now the dependencies are in gstreamer-plugins-good, I believe, but when I try to yum install gstreamer-plugins-good it says already installed. same with yum install gstreamer-plugins-base Now the worst part is that now I can't yum update says I'm missing network dependencies :-/ :( -Naz -- Carlos Nazareno http://www.object404.com interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Bobby. How do I install these? I can't find docs at > wiki.laptop.org or by googling on how to install these on the XO. I'm > a fedora noob and googling, all I see are apt-getting for ubuntu. Hi Carlos, What you want to do is add the livna repositories: http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/ Jerome G. Website: http://www.gotangco.com Blog: http://engage.wordpress.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
Gnash is probably already installed by default. Type:rpm -qv gnash-plugin and see what it says. You could try: yum install gnash-plugin if it isn't already installed. wad On Sep 30, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: >> A month or two ago on joyride I had gnash playing youtube videos with >> perfect sound, but very slow (.5ish FPS) video. For sound (and maybe >> video) you probably have to install the ffmpeg-gstreamer, and >> gstreamer-plugins-bad (and maybe gstreamer-plugins-dirty), all from >> the Livna repositories. The problem is that we've reverted to using >> an older version of gstreamer to get correct record behavior, and the >> livna gstreamer-plugins want the newer gstreamer. > > Hey Bobby. How do I install these? I can't find docs at > wiki.laptop.org or by googling on how to install these on the XO. I'm > a fedora noob and googling, all I see are apt-getting for ubuntu. > > I just installed 766 on one of the XOs and I'd like to see how Gnash > performs with sound. What's the easiest way to get sound working with > Gnash on a just-clean-installed-766 + installed some activities > environment? > > This page: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Restricted_Formats > doesn't help (sorry, I'm a linux newb, haven't had much experience > with recompiling from sources. Have only mostly installed from apt-get > and .debs in ubuntu and .rpms in fedora) > > Thanks! > > -Naz > > -- > Carlos Nazareno > http://www.object404.com > > interactive media specialist > zen graffiti studios > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
> A month or two ago on joyride I had gnash playing youtube videos with > perfect sound, but very slow (.5ish FPS) video. For sound (and maybe > video) you probably have to install the ffmpeg-gstreamer, and > gstreamer-plugins-bad (and maybe gstreamer-plugins-dirty), all from > the Livna repositories. The problem is that we've reverted to using > an older version of gstreamer to get correct record behavior, and the > livna gstreamer-plugins want the newer gstreamer. Hey Bobby. How do I install these? I can't find docs at wiki.laptop.org or by googling on how to install these on the XO. I'm a fedora noob and googling, all I see are apt-getting for ubuntu. I just installed 766 on one of the XOs and I'd like to see how Gnash performs with sound. What's the easiest way to get sound working with Gnash on a just-clean-installed-766 + installed some activities environment? This page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Restricted_Formats doesn't help (sorry, I'm a linux newb, haven't had much experience with recompiling from sources. Have only mostly installed from apt-get and .debs in ubuntu and .rpms in fedora) Thanks! -Naz -- Carlos Nazareno http://www.object404.com interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash Tests
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys! I'm a volunteer for OLPC Philippines and I'm very new here. > > Our project, OLPC XO as a Flash gaming/educational gaming platform > (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Flash_Gamedev) got approved and we > just received 3 XO units Monday last week for testing and development. > > Anyway: > > 1) I recommend Flash 10 RC over Flash 9 because: > - Flash 10 final should be coming out in a couple of months or so. > Adobe just announced the launch of the CS4 product line Tue. last week > (including Flash CS4). I guess that means they'll be shipping within 2 > months or so, so expect Flash player 10 to be finalized by then. > - Flash 9 has no V4L2 hardware support. The XO comes with a V4L2 webcam. > Flash apps that use the webcam show nothing in Flash 9 (cam LED will > light up, but only a black box appears in Flash). In Flash 10, it > shows red & green static but the static reacts if you wave your hand > in front of the camera. I reported the cam behavior to Adobe, and > they're looking into it. > (tested in update.1 711 -> will test in 766 if cam behavior improves). > > Anyway, my point is, we should really make Flash 10 our baseline > rather than Flash 9, because it'll be coming out of RC soon. > > Btw, youtube played in Flash 9.0.124.0, but maybe that was because I > was using Opera 9.52 in 711... > > 2) Gnash behavior: testing the pre-bundled Gnash 8.3 in the Sept.19 > Livecd build > (ftp://rohrmoser-engineering.de/pub/XO-LiveCD/XO-LiveCD_080919.iso) > emulated in Virtualbox showed a lot of sound glitches with Flash 7 & 8 > apps, and no sound at all in Youtube. I'm downloading RC 766 now, and > will install it in one of the XOs in a while and report back. > Currently, I only have update.1 711 stable installed in the XO units. A month or two ago on joyride I had gnash playing youtube videos with perfect sound, but very slow (.5ish FPS) video. For sound (and maybe video) you probably have to install the ffmpeg-gstreamer, and gstreamer-plugins-bad (and maybe gstreamer-plugins-dirty), all from the Livna repositories. The problem is that we've reverted to using an older version of gstreamer to get correct record behavior, and the livna gstreamer-plugins want the newer gstreamer. bobby > Regarding Flash performance: > > I noticed that Flash runs faster in Opera 9.52 (latest desktop linux > version of Opera runs fine on the XO) than in the Browse activivity > that comes with 711. I think this is primarily caused by the fact that > browser contents in the Browse activity are scaled up, and thus, it's > taxing Flash's engine more. > > In general, the bigger the dimensions of the Flash applet, the more > CPU horsepower it eats. Thus, using the same applet, if you zoom in on > a page with Flash in Opera, you'll see performance drop and if you > zoom out a page and thus shrink the flash applet size, you'll see > performance improve. > > Oh, I heard from Ben Schwartz that the Browse activity in 8.2.0 is > based on Firefox 3. If so, that would be interesting because my > general experience is that the Flash plugin performs better in Firefox > 3 than in MS IE or Opera 9.x. > > Anyway, am installing 766 and will report back on Flash/Gnash test results. > > -Naz > > -- > Carlos Nazareno > http://www.object404.com > > interactive media specialist > zen graffiti studios > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
re: Flash Tests
Hi guys! I'm a volunteer for OLPC Philippines and I'm very new here. Our project, OLPC XO as a Flash gaming/educational gaming platform (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Flash_Gamedev) got approved and we just received 3 XO units Monday last week for testing and development. Anyway: 1) I recommend Flash 10 RC over Flash 9 because: - Flash 10 final should be coming out in a couple of months or so. Adobe just announced the launch of the CS4 product line Tue. last week (including Flash CS4). I guess that means they'll be shipping within 2 months or so, so expect Flash player 10 to be finalized by then. - Flash 9 has no V4L2 hardware support. The XO comes with a V4L2 webcam. Flash apps that use the webcam show nothing in Flash 9 (cam LED will light up, but only a black box appears in Flash). In Flash 10, it shows red & green static but the static reacts if you wave your hand in front of the camera. I reported the cam behavior to Adobe, and they're looking into it. (tested in update.1 711 -> will test in 766 if cam behavior improves). Anyway, my point is, we should really make Flash 10 our baseline rather than Flash 9, because it'll be coming out of RC soon. Btw, youtube played in Flash 9.0.124.0, but maybe that was because I was using Opera 9.52 in 711... 2) Gnash behavior: testing the pre-bundled Gnash 8.3 in the Sept.19 Livecd build (ftp://rohrmoser-engineering.de/pub/XO-LiveCD/XO-LiveCD_080919.iso) emulated in Virtualbox showed a lot of sound glitches with Flash 7 & 8 apps, and no sound at all in Youtube. I'm downloading RC 766 now, and will install it in one of the XOs in a while and report back. Currently, I only have update.1 711 stable installed in the XO units. Regarding Flash performance: I noticed that Flash runs faster in Opera 9.52 (latest desktop linux version of Opera runs fine on the XO) than in the Browse activivity that comes with 711. I think this is primarily caused by the fact that browser contents in the Browse activity are scaled up, and thus, it's taxing Flash's engine more. In general, the bigger the dimensions of the Flash applet, the more CPU horsepower it eats. Thus, using the same applet, if you zoom in on a page with Flash in Opera, you'll see performance drop and if you zoom out a page and thus shrink the flash applet size, you'll see performance improve. Oh, I heard from Ben Schwartz that the Browse activity in 8.2.0 is based on Firefox 3. If so, that would be interesting because my general experience is that the Flash plugin performs better in Firefox 3 than in MS IE or Opera 9.x. Anyway, am installing 766 and will report back on Flash/Gnash test results. -Naz -- Carlos Nazareno http://www.object404.com interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it is worth testing flash on a classmate running Sugar to > determine if the problem lies with Sugar or the XO? Anyone have a > Classmate out there? I don't think a link to Sugar can be made. Also, LATU tested with Debian on XO in order to get one more reference point. My biggest suspects are: - Flash being tuned for several CPUs but not for the Geode, - slow graphics performance of X in the OLPC builds. Regards, Tomeu > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:13 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in rendering. >>> >>> I don't think we should expect games like "Hulk Central Smashdown" to >>> become playable at any time soon. >> >> Personally, I agree, but LATU disagrees. >> Their report indicates that this video plays on Intel Classmates >> (but only under Fedora, not Windows!) and there shouldn't be >> such a gulf in performance. Flash is detecting and using >> hardware assist on the Classmate, but isn't happy with what >> it finds on the XO. >> >> wad >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
Am 30.09.2008 um 11:13 schrieb John Watlington: > > On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two >>> frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in >>> rendering. >> >> I don't think we should expect games like "Hulk Central Smashdown" to >> become playable at any time soon. > > Personally, I agree, but LATU disagrees. > Their report indicates that this video plays on Intel Classmates > (but only under Fedora, not Windows!) and there shouldn't be > such a gulf in performance. Flash is detecting and using > hardware assist on the Classmate, but isn't happy with what > it finds on the XO. The Classmate has a significantly faster CPU and a lot less pixels than the XO. Which makes it more power-hungry and less crisp, but better for games. Still, the XO performance might be tuned - did someone get a couple of dev machines to the Adobe Linux hackers? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
Maybe it is worth testing flash on a classmate running Sugar to determine if the problem lies with Sugar or the XO? Anyone have a Classmate out there? -walter On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:13 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two >>> frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in >>> rendering. >> >> I don't think we should expect games like "Hulk Central Smashdown" to >> become playable at any time soon. > > Personally, I agree, but LATU disagrees. > Their report indicates that this video plays on Intel Classmates > (but only under Fedora, not Windows!) and there shouldn't be > such a gulf in performance. Flash is detecting and using > hardware assist on the Classmate, but isn't happy with what > it finds on the XO. > > wad > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two >> frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in >> rendering. > > I don't think we should expect games like "Hulk Central Smashdown" to > become playable at any time soon. Personally, I agree, but LATU disagrees. Their report indicates that this video plays on Intel Classmates (but only under Fedora, not Windows!) and there shouldn't be such a gulf in performance. Flash is detecting and using hardware assist on the Classmate, but isn't happy with what it finds on the XO. wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just checked Flash10 with 8.2-765. > > The results are the same as with earlier versions of Flash: The flash games in the ceibal tests are still unplayable, but their performance is greatly improved, just go back to the Flash 9 plugin and you will see it. Youtube videos become viewable with Flash 10 although it doesn't play totally smoothly. In my opinion, Flash 10 improves significantly the flash experience on the XO and it would be worth studying if it should be recommended instead of Flash 9. > Did this really have to be sent to olpc-sur without a cursory > check first ? As I said above, I actually did compared both versions. > Castle Wars is doesn't function correctly, and is unplayable. > > The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two > frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in > rendering. I don't think we should expect games like "Hulk Central Smashdown" to become playable at any time soon. Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
I just checked Flash10 with 8.2-765. The results are the same as with earlier versions of Flash: Did this really have to be sent to olpc-sur without a cursory check first ? Castle Wars is doesn't function correctly, and is unplayable. The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in rendering. Bummer, wad On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > have added it to my queue, but I'm pretty busy with the DS and will be > traveling tomorrow, so if someone could take this task instead of me, > I will be very grateful. It's basically following adobe's instructions > from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html . > > Thanks, > > Tomeu > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Greg Smith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Tomeu, >> >> I don't think we need to question Latu to test again. >> >> Its more a matter of explaining to end users what is the best way >> to get a >> good experience with Flash. >> >> Can you layout the steps people need to take to try out the new >> Flash? >> >> If you can post that (preferably in Spanish) to a wiki somewhere >> we can ask >> the Sur list to try it out. >> >> We may need an explanation of how to try it with 8.2 release >> candidate, 708 >> (Peru image) and 656 (Uruguay image) if the instructions are >> different for >> each. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg S >> >> Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> >>> 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi All, We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2. Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin (9.0.124-0). They tested Castle Wars: http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php? id=4570 Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php? id=6769 I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They weren't necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I would be very interested in the results. Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are appreciated. >>> >>> Just tried the Flash 10 RC and it's working much better. Should >>> we ask >>> Uruguay to repeat their tests with that version? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tomeu >>> >> > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
Hi, have added it to my queue, but I'm pretty busy with the DS and will be traveling tomorrow, so if someone could take this task instead of me, I will be very grateful. It's basically following adobe's instructions from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html . Thanks, Tomeu On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tomeu, > > I don't think we need to question Latu to test again. > > Its more a matter of explaining to end users what is the best way to get a > good experience with Flash. > > Can you layout the steps people need to take to try out the new Flash? > > If you can post that (preferably in Spanish) to a wiki somewhere we can ask > the Sur list to try it out. > > We may need an explanation of how to try it with 8.2 release candidate, 708 > (Peru image) and 656 (Uruguay image) if the instructions are different for > each. > > Thanks, > > Greg S > > Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >> 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release >>> 8.2. >>> >>> Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at >>> this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ >>> >>> They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin >>> (9.0.124-0). >>> >>> They tested Castle Wars: >>> http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 >>> Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php?id=4570 >>> Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=6769 >>> >>> I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They >>> weren't >>> necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) >>> >>> In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. >>> >>> If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I >>> would >>> be very interested in the results. >>> >>> Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are >>> appreciated. >> >> Just tried the Flash 10 RC and it's working much better. Should we ask >> Uruguay to repeat their tests with that version? >> >> Regards, >> >> Tomeu >> > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
Hi Tomeu, I don't think we need to question Latu to test again. Its more a matter of explaining to end users what is the best way to get a good experience with Flash. Can you layout the steps people need to take to try out the new Flash? If you can post that (preferably in Spanish) to a wiki somewhere we can ask the Sur list to try it out. We may need an explanation of how to try it with 8.2 release candidate, 708 (Peru image) and 656 (Uruguay image) if the instructions are different for each. Thanks, Greg S Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi All, >> >> We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2. >> >> Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at >> this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ >> >> They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin >> (9.0.124-0). >> >> They tested Castle Wars: http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 >> Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php?id=4570 >> Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=6769 >> >> I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They weren't >> necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) >> >> In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. >> >> If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I would >> be very interested in the results. >> >> Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are >> appreciated. > > Just tried the Flash 10 RC and it's working much better. Should we ask > Uruguay to repeat their tests with that version? > > Regards, > > Tomeu > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2. > > Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at > this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ > > They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin > (9.0.124-0). > > They tested Castle Wars: http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 > Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php?id=4570 > Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=6769 > > I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They weren't > necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) > > In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. > > If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I would > be very interested in the results. > > Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are > appreciated. Just tried the Flash 10 RC and it's working much better. Should we ask Uruguay to repeat their tests with that version? Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
all my comments are directed at Gregs email, so I suppose I should have replied to him... I hope this doesn't cause too much confusion... bobby On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For consideration in your testing: there are some ways to tune the >> performance of Flash, such as the video playback hack described here: >> >> http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=845.0 >> >> I don't know if there are similar hacks for improving general >> performance of Flash (or Gnash) on lesser-powered machines, although I >> am sure Rob has plenty of hints he can share for Gnash. >> >> -walter >> >> 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2. >>> >>> Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at >>> this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ >>> >>> They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin >>> (9.0.124-0). > > that version of gnash is very old, you get different results running > 8.2 or a recent joyride: > >>> They tested Castle Wars: http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 > > loads, but doesn't work right (loops through some intro screens, > animation is slow). (same behavior on my laptop running F9 + gnash) > >>> Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php?id=4570 > > website doesn't load correctly in Browse, complains 'the URL is not > valid and cannot be loaded'. (on F9 it loads, plays an annoying > soundclip saying I've won a nintendo Wii, and gets all the way to the > instruction screen, but doesn't let me hit start) > >>> Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=6769 > > gets to main menu, doesn't do anything after that. (same on F9, > except when the main screen comes up it plays a soundclip saying 'HULK > SMASH') > >>> >>> I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They weren't >>> necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) >>> >>> In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. > > again, this is not representative of 8.2 (although they still aren't > playable in Gnash)... > >>> If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I would >>> be very interested in the results. >>> >>> Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are >>> appreciated. > > I will file some gnash bugs related to this later, as well as try them > out on Gnash's trunk (its not building for me at the moment). > > Bobby > >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Greg S >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Techteam mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/techteam >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@lists.laptop.org >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >>> >>> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For consideration in your testing: there are some ways to tune the > performance of Flash, such as the video playback hack described here: > > http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=845.0 > > I don't know if there are similar hacks for improving general > performance of Flash (or Gnash) on lesser-powered machines, although I > am sure Rob has plenty of hints he can share for Gnash. > > -walter > > 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi All, >> >> We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2. >> >> Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at >> this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ >> >> They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin >> (9.0.124-0). that version of gnash is very old, you get different results running 8.2 or a recent joyride: >> They tested Castle Wars: http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 loads, but doesn't work right (loops through some intro screens, animation is slow). (same behavior on my laptop running F9 + gnash) >> Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php?id=4570 website doesn't load correctly in Browse, complains 'the URL is not valid and cannot be loaded'. (on F9 it loads, plays an annoying soundclip saying I've won a nintendo Wii, and gets all the way to the instruction screen, but doesn't let me hit start) >> Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=6769 gets to main menu, doesn't do anything after that. (same on F9, except when the main screen comes up it plays a soundclip saying 'HULK SMASH') >> >> I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They weren't >> necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) >> >> In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. again, this is not representative of 8.2 (although they still aren't playable in Gnash)... >> If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I would >> be very interested in the results. >> >> Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are >> appreciated. I will file some gnash bugs related to this later, as well as try them out on Gnash's trunk (its not building for me at the moment). Bobby >> Thanks, >> >> Greg S >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Techteam mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/techteam >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash tests
For consideration in your testing: there are some ways to tune the performance of Flash, such as the video playback hack described here: http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=845.0 I don't know if there are similar hacks for improving general performance of Flash (or Gnash) on lesser-powered machines, although I am sure Rob has plenty of hints he can share for Gnash. -walter 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2. > > Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at > this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/ > > They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.8.1-1) and a Flash plugin > (9.0.124-0). > > They tested Castle Wars: http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=5552 > Freekick Fusion http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/html/index.php?id=4570 > Hulk Central Smahdown http://www.minijuegos.com/juegos/jugar.php?id=6769 > > I believe those were chosen as examples of Flash capabilities. They weren't > necessarily things the ministry of education wanted to use in class :-) > > In all three Gnash failed completely and Flash ran slowly. > > If anyone has time to try those again with the 8.2 candidate build I would > be very interested in the results. > > Any other comments, URLs or examples about our Flash support are > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Greg S > > > > > > ___ > Techteam mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/techteam > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
