Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 6 February 2011 12:51, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: I think I figured it out: ht doesn't exist as a locale, but what ht means in this context is to include all avaliable locales which start with ht_. This doesn't seem to be 100% true. An OS build with pt does include various files for pt_BR. But if I make an OS build with pt,pt_BR I do get a few new files, particularly firefox's langpack-pt-BR So I guess we don't fully understand just yet. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 02/06/2011 07:36 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 4 February 2011 13:00, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: I request German for inclusion! At least I use it in my small 'deployment' of 5 machines :) I remember as well a class in Austria that used the builds, Christoph (in cc) will know better. Sebastian had as well a class set delivered to Hannover - not sure what the status is there. Bert might have other examples... Whats the locale that needs adding then? de? de_DE? I did build my builds with including 'de' - there exist de_AT (Austria) and de_DE (Germany) and a few more de_* - as Austria and Germany have requested inclusion you could just include those. Thanks, Simon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 02/06/2011 07:51 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 6 February 2011 12:36, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: Does anyone know what the difference between ht and ht_HT is? I see that SKU24 does set the system locale to ht_HT. But does that mean we should include ht *and* ht_HT? Just ht_HT? Or ...? I think I figured it out: ht doesn't exist as a locale, but what ht means in this context is to include all avaliable locales which start with ht_. Yes that is how I understand it as well. Having pt,pt_BR in the olpc-os-builder config file seem to be not needed then - 'pt' would be enough. According to locale -a output on 11.2.0-7, ht_HT is already available, and it seems to work (not many strings are available, but according to kreyol.com the offered translation of Write as Ekri is accurate). So I think we may have misdiagnosed (or mis-guessed) the problem in 10.1.3 with Kreyol translations in that other thread, as ht_HT should also be included there. You are right on that one. ht was included in the build all the time. So I think just the CP command line command did choke when setting. Regards, Simon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 6 February 2011 12:36, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Does anyone know what the difference between ht and ht_HT is? I see that SKU24 does set the system locale to ht_HT. But does that mean we should include ht *and* ht_HT? Just ht_HT? Or ...? I think I figured it out: ht doesn't exist as a locale, but what ht means in this context is to include all avaliable locales which start with ht_. According to locale -a output on 11.2.0-7, ht_HT is already available, and it seems to work (not many strings are available, but according to kreyol.com the offered translation of Write as Ekri is accurate). So I think we may have misdiagnosed (or mis-guessed) the problem in 10.1.3 with Kreyol translations in that other thread, as ht_HT should also be included there. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 4 February 2011 15:50, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: en_AU please Added for future builds, thanks! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 4 February 2011 13:42, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: en_UK please. If you tell me that there's an active UK deployment or that one is likely to happen in the next 6 months then I'll add it, but we do need to keep this limited to actual deployments to avoid proliferation. Also, as there are no XO laptops which come with the manufacturing data set to en_UK, you will have to hack the build, adjust the manufacturing data of all the laptops, or manually change the locale after installing the systems. I would have thought there's be a lot of cross over between en_AU and en_UK as in terms of spelling and similar related things the language is pretty much the same with the only major difference being keyboard layout. So from that point of view what is the impact in terms of size. There is hopefully one planned this year but the people involved in doing it are somewhat quiet at the moment. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 2/6/2011 7:42 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 4 February 2011 13:42, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: en_UK please. If you tell me that there's an active UK deployment or that one is likely to happen in the next 6 months then I'll add it, but we do need to keep this limited to actual deployments to avoid proliferation. Tough call, indeed. Almost exactly 2 years ago a few hundred XO-1s were shipped to UK enthusiasts, and I'd certainly welcome them making more noise: http://www.olpcMAP.net/?go=uk Likewise Canada's ~11,000 XOs (~6000 XO-1s shipped in 2008 and 2009; and ~5000 XO-1.5s with or en route to http://olpcCanada.com) will generally prefer en_UK over en_US. Other less royal Canadians don't care :) -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Language support for 11.2.0
en was not on the original list, I think though it may have still been intended to include it en_US en_UK and en_AU apperar to build on en.po translations at least in Turtle Art Tony On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 4 February 2011 13:42, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: en_UK please. If you tell me that there's an active UK deployment or that one is likely to happen in the next 6 months then I'll add it, but we do need to keep this limited to actual deployments to avoid proliferation. Also, as there are no XO laptops which come with the manufacturing data set to en_UK, you will have to hack the build, adjust the manufacturing data of all the laptops, or manually change the locale after installing the systems. I would have thought there's be a lot of cross over between en_AU and en_UK as in terms of spelling and similar related things the language is pretty much the same with the only major difference being keyboard layout. So from that point of view what is the impact in terms of size. There is hopefully one planned this year but the people involved in doing it are somewhat quiet at the moment. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 02/04/2011 07:16 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: en_US es ar pt pt_BR fr ht mn mr_IN am_ET km_KH ne_NP ur_PK rw ps fa_AF si zh_CN We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be made on this mailing list. I request German for inclusion! At least I use it in my small 'deployment' of 5 machines :) I remember as well a class in Austria that used the builds, Christoph (in cc) will know better. Sebastian had as well a class set delivered to Hannover - not sure what the status is there. Bert might have other examples... One area we need to investigate is Haiti in light of a recent discussion here; ht is included but perhaps we also need ht_HT? Yes, ht_HT is what I included in the builds I made for Haiti. That had the locale we were looking for. Regards, Simon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 02/04/2011 07:16 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: en_US es ar pt pt_BR fr ht mn mr_IN am_ET km_KH ne_NP ur_PK rw ps fa_AF si zh_CN We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be made on this mailing list. I request German for inclusion! At least I use it in my small 'deployment' of 5 machines :) I remember as well a class in Austria that used the builds, Christoph (in cc) will know better. Sebastian had as well a class set delivered to Hannover - not sure what the status is there. Bert might have other examples... FWIW, there is also interest in German from a private school chain and foundation in India. -walter One area we need to investigate is Haiti in light of a recent discussion here; ht is included but perhaps we also need ht_HT? Yes, ht_HT is what I included in the builds I made for Haiti. That had the locale we were looking for. Regards, Simon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 02/04/2011 07:16 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: en_US es ar pt pt_BR fr ht mn mr_IN am_ET km_KH ne_NP ur_PK rw ps fa_AF si zh_CN We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be made on this mailing list. I request German for inclusion! At least I use it in my small 'deployment' of 5 machines :) I remember as well a class in Austria that used the builds, Christoph (in cc) will know better. Sebastian had as well a class set delivered to Hannover - not sure what the status is there. Bert might have other examples... (Thanks a lot for the heads-up Simon:-) Yes, I'd also love to see German included again. Due to a variety of issues we won't be able to do a whole lot at the Austrian pilot project this year but the 2011-2012 school year (when the project class is going to be in 4th grade, the last one of primary school) I definitely want to make a strong push again. And being able to use the latest Sugar version in German would definitely help here:-) Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
Anybody knows if the language packs[1] created in pootle server are used actually? The scripts used to generate the language packs are running but only with old branches (0.82 and 0.84). Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Localization/Testing#Using_the_Language_Packs On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: en_US es ar pt pt_BR fr ht mn mr_IN am_ET km_KH ne_NP ur_PK rw ps fa_AF si zh_CN We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be made on this mailing list. One area we need to investigate is Haiti in light of a recent discussion here; ht is included but perhaps we also need ht_HT? Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: en_US es ar pt pt_BR fr ht mn mr_IN am_ET km_KH ne_NP ur_PK rw ps fa_AF si zh_CN We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be made on this mailing list. en_UK please. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: Thanks for looking into this -- related questions - - What's an average/estimate size cost of each of these langs? - Can we improve the lang selector so that it only shows langs we have langpacks for? (Not tasking you to do it, but is it straightforward to read the langpacks we have?) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On 4 February 2011 14:31, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: Thanks for looking into this -- related questions - - What's an average/estimate size cost of each of these langs? - Can we improve the lang selector so that it only shows langs we have langpacks for? (Not tasking you to do it, but is it straightforward to read the langpacks we have?) I don't know the answers to these questions without looking into it, but I do know that the last round of locale trimming saved more than 50mb in the build. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Language support for 11.2.0
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 12:16 +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, Currently we are including the following languages and locales in 11.2.0 official builds: en_US es ar pt pt_BR fr ht mn mr_IN am_ET km_KH ne_NP ur_PK rw ps fa_AF si zh_CN We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be made on this mailing list. One area we need to investigate is Haiti in light of a recent discussion here; ht is included but perhaps we also need ht_HT? en_AU please Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
