Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:19 AM, RJV wrote: > Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the > main features of Sugar shell > > This looks like the nearest to what I hope to achieve - the same experience > of the XO on a hand-held device especially the Ad-Hoc networking. If using Sugar on a handheld tablet style device you might also want to look at running Linux on the tablet device and then you wouldn't need to deal with the sugar side of it at all. Fedora, on which the XO OS is based, for example will run find on a number of tablet devices with some work. With the touch work in the last cycle, that will continue into the next, it might be an option that might yield the same eventual wanted outcome. Peter > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> >> I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of >> borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, >> mess up the other person's name. >> >> Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. >> >> cheers, >> >> >> martin >> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV wrote: >> > Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name "Rajiv" from? :) >> > >> > RJv >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that >> >> has the main features of Sugar shell >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > >> > Ravichandran J.V. >> > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com >> > XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> martin.langh...@gmail.com >> mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC >> - ask interesting questions >> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first >> - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Ravichandran J.V. > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com > XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell This looks like the nearest to what I hope to achieve - the same experience of the XO on a hand-held device especially the Ad-Hoc networking. Jv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of > borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, > mess up the other person's name. > > Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. > > cheers, > > > martin > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV wrote: > > Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name "Rajiv" from? :) > > > > RJv > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff < > martin.langh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that > >> has the main features of Sugar shell > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Ravichandran J.V. > > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com > > XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 > > > > > > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, mess up the other person's name. Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. cheers, martin On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV wrote: > Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name "Rajiv" from? :) > > RJv > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> >> Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that >> has the main features of Sugar shell > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Ravichandran J.V. > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com > XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 > -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name "Rajiv" from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that > has the main features of Sugar shell > -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.* http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
Hi Rajiv, your plan seems to have good goals, but is missing some understanding of what you can and cannot do. You cannot run Sugar (a Python-based window manager, based on traditional Linux sw stack) on the Android stack. Way too different. To reach your goals, however, you could try something like... - identify what good Android Apps exist that match Sugar Activities, those you don' t have to port, just replace :-) (ie: don't port Record!) - those Sugar Activities that don't have an Android counterpart, reimplement them as Android apps - Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell - Implement some of the key services that make Sugar special: ad-hoc auto-networking, collaboration stack, the Journal. The most important, IMO, is the Journal, as Android's handling of "my files" is extremely poor. All these services will need integration into the shell and apps. Alternatively, you can wait for Android/Linux stack convergence projects (see Jolla / Sailfish) to mature. Maybe in a year or two there are ways to run Sugar inside Android or Android Apps on a Linux stack. hth, m On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM, RJV wrote: > Hi, > > We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: > > 1. Sugar as an application on Android. > 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. > > Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app > store? Are there any licensing issues? > > On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? > -- > Regards, > > Ravichandran J.V. > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com > XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)
I think Sugar could be something like an alternative gui shell similar cynogen http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM, RJV wrote: > Hi, > > We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: > > 1. Sugar as an application on Android. > 2. As a platform on top of the Linux platform. > > Can the Sugar build be used to create an app bundle to deploy to the app > store? Are there any licensing issues? > > On 2., can someone share their experience, if any, please? > -- > Regards, > > *Ravichandran J.V.* > http://ravichandranjv.blogspot.com > XO 1.75 - 12.1, 0.96, Build 21, Q4D17 > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
