Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:

> 
> I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old
> machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but
> everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are
> compatible with it (only ATest has limits).

Ugh.  Verified.  e15 bricks a B2.  I suspect that when I "fixed" the 
board ID table for the upcoming C3 I've somehow broken B2.

I'm investigating now.

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Richard A. Smith
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Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:

 >
 > I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old
 > machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but
 > everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are
 > compatible with it (only ATest has limits).

Ugh.  Verified.  e15 bricks a B2.  I suspect that when I "fixed" the 
board ID table for the upcoming C3 I've somehow broken B2.

I'm investigating now.

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Richard Smith  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Richard A. Smith wrote:
> Ugh.  Verified.  e15 bricks a B2.  I suspect that when I "fixed" the 
> board ID table for the upcoming C3 I've somehow broken B2.
> 
> I'm investigating now.

It is hard to avoid having these things happen given all the versions of
machines out there. Though it is still more like the early Mac days than
the current PC world. When I was downloading e15 the second time to
verify that I had the right bits, I did run across a notice that said
that e12 was the latest stable version. By then it was too late, of
course.

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Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:

> It is hard to avoid having these things happen given all the versions of
> machines out there. Though it is still more like the early Mac days than
> the current PC world. When I was downloading e15 the second time to
> verify that I had the right bits, I did run across a notice that said
> that e12 was the latest stable version. By then it was too late, of
> course.

All 'e' series firmware will brick any machine using a Geode GX (B1 & 
B2) so e12 would have not have saved you.

B2's have been unsupported for quite a while now and we don't do any 
testing on them. Nor do we care to since we don't have the resources.

If you make and account on the developer program website and say you 
have a B2 that you want replaced we will send you a new MP machine. 
Make sure there is some sort of project listed with your request.

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Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-11 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Richard Smith wrote:
> All 'e' series firmware will brick any machine using a Geode GX (B1 & 
> B2) so e12 would have not have saved you.

Right, it would be a good idea to mention this in

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_specification#Software_on_the_develop
ment_systems

It is pretty easy to miss it there, but it is the only place in the wiki
where I saw a similar warning relating to the ATest boards. A short note
here might be easier to find (but I don't know if it wold be out of
place):

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware

> B2's have been unsupported for quite a while now and we don't do any 
> testing on them. Nor do we care to since we don't have the resources.

That is to be expected.

> If you make and account on the developer program website and say you 
> have a B2 that you want replaced we will send you a new MP machine. 
> Make sure there is some sort of project listed with your request.

I would actually like to stick with the B2 for now. It has a certain
historical value. Its main use was to help illustrate the various talks
I have given about OLPC. Between 500 and 700 people have had a chance to
play a little with it, but that hasn't happened in months so it has
probably outlived its usefulness in this regard. I am also interested in
SqueakNOS and for that 64MB is quite enough, let alone 128MB.

-- Jecel

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