Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Robinson  
>>> wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  
> wrote:
>> For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)
>
> I fs-updated a 1.75 with this, fixed /etc/rwtab and the Virtual line,
> and tried to update.
>
> yum update seems to hang at 'Setting up Install Process', spinning at
> 100%. CTRL+C doesn't kill it. I didn't modify any of the yum repos.
>
> Has anyone seen this?

 Yes, it gets there eventually. I was going to look at spinning another
 release, we might even have a basic rawhide build in the next couple
 of weeks.
>>>
>>> It took 50 minutes, but it finally got there. I expected it'd update
>>> yum and/or rpm and then it'd be okay, but it said there was nothing to
>>> update. Is that expected?
>>
>> No, can you check to see if the olpc-excludes are configured in
>> /etc/yum.repo.d/fedora*.repo?
>
> Yes, olpc-excludes are configured.

Disable them, they're pretty pointless at the moment and will give you updates.

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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  
 wrote:
> For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

 I fs-updated a 1.75 with this, fixed /etc/rwtab and the Virtual line,
 and tried to update.

 yum update seems to hang at 'Setting up Install Process', spinning at
 100%. CTRL+C doesn't kill it. I didn't modify any of the yum repos.

 Has anyone seen this?
>>>
>>> Yes, it gets there eventually. I was going to look at spinning another
>>> release, we might even have a basic rawhide build in the next couple
>>> of weeks.
>>
>> It took 50 minutes, but it finally got there. I expected it'd update
>> yum and/or rpm and then it'd be okay, but it said there was nothing to
>> update. Is that expected?
>
> No, can you check to see if the olpc-excludes are configured in
> /etc/yum.repo.d/fedora*.repo?

Yes, olpc-excludes are configured.

> I'm going to try to spin another release in the coming week which
> should clean up a number of issues.

Okay. I look forward to trying it out.

Thanks,
Matt
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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
 For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)
>>>
>>> I fs-updated a 1.75 with this, fixed /etc/rwtab and the Virtual line,
>>> and tried to update.
>>>
>>> yum update seems to hang at 'Setting up Install Process', spinning at
>>> 100%. CTRL+C doesn't kill it. I didn't modify any of the yum repos.
>>>
>>> Has anyone seen this?
>>
>> Yes, it gets there eventually. I was going to look at spinning another
>> release, we might even have a basic rawhide build in the next couple
>> of weeks.
>
> It took 50 minutes, but it finally got there. I expected it'd update
> yum and/or rpm and then it'd be okay, but it said there was nothing to
> update. Is that expected?

No, can you check to see if the olpc-excludes are configured in
/etc/yum.repo.d/fedora*.repo?

I'm going to try to spin another release in the coming week which
should clean up a number of issues.

Peter
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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>>> For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)
>>
>> I fs-updated a 1.75 with this, fixed /etc/rwtab and the Virtual line,
>> and tried to update.
>>
>> yum update seems to hang at 'Setting up Install Process', spinning at
>> 100%. CTRL+C doesn't kill it. I didn't modify any of the yum repos.
>>
>> Has anyone seen this?
>
> Yes, it gets there eventually. I was going to look at spinning another
> release, we might even have a basic rawhide build in the next couple
> of weeks.

It took 50 minutes, but it finally got there. I expected it'd update
yum and/or rpm and then it'd be okay, but it said there was nothing to
update. Is that expected?

Matt
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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)
>
> I fs-updated a 1.75 with this, fixed /etc/rwtab and the Virtual line,
> and tried to update.
>
> yum update seems to hang at 'Setting up Install Process', spinning at
> 100%. CTRL+C doesn't kill it. I didn't modify any of the yum repos.
>
> Has anyone seen this?

Yes, it gets there eventually. I was going to look at spinning another
release, we might even have a basic rawhide build in the next couple
of weeks.

Peter
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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-25 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

I fs-updated a 1.75 with this, fixed /etc/rwtab and the Virtual line,
and tried to update.

yum update seems to hang at 'Setting up Install Process', spinning at
100%. CTRL+C doesn't kill it. I didn't modify any of the yum repos.

Has anyone seen this?

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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-12 Thread Niels de Vos
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Dennis Gilmore  wrote:
> El Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:24:29 +
> Niels de Vos  escribió:
>> Unfortunately the fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo are
>> non-functional for Fedora 15 on ARM. Instead, I am now using the most
>> current builds directly from a repository on the koji infrastructure:
>> -
>> http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-f15-build/latest/armhfp/
>>
>> Does it make sense to create tickets for these kind of issues? Or is
>> this email sufficient to help others?
>
> MAke sure that time on your system is close to correct. mirrormanager
> uses https by default. if your time is way off the ssl cert wont check
> out and things wont work.
>
> the repos really do work just fine

Just tried it again, and it works for me now too. Not sure what has
changed on my side, the /var/log/yum.log is empty, nor can I remember
updating the time.

Oh well, all fine. Thanks for the replies,
Niels
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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-11 Thread Dennis Gilmore
El Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:24:29 +
Niels de Vos  escribió:
> Unfortunately the fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo are
> non-functional for Fedora 15 on ARM. Instead, I am now using the most
> current builds directly from a repository on the koji infrastructure:
> -
> http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-f15-build/latest/armhfp/
> 
> Does it make sense to create tickets for these kind of issues? Or is 
> this email sufficient to help others?

MAke sure that time on your system is close to correct. mirrormanager
uses https by default. if your time is way off the ssl cert wont check
out and things wont work.

the repos really do work just fine

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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Niels de Vos  wrote:
> systemd is included (as it is Fedora 15) but does not really work by
> default. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704783 describes the
> same problem and points to a solution:
> - remove /var/run, /var/lock and /media from /etc/rwtab and reboot

Thanks! I can confirm that this change makes this OS _much_ happier!

cheers,



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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-09 Thread Niels de Vos

On 01/03/2012 01:03 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE AIMED AT CORE OS/HW DEVELOPERS

This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
number of things that don't work. This is expected and its a release
only really intended for people that understandard what hardfp is and
the significance of it and wish to test and develop further for this
fairly major feature both for upstream Fedora and the XO releases.

This isn't a release that shouldn't have bug reports against it.

So what are the known issues, and what works?

- X works using fbdev. There's an issue with resolution. Fix this by
removing the "Virtual" line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.75.conf
- No accelerated X
- Sugar and GNOME do work quite well
- Networking seems to work OK
- Firefox DOESN'T work. Known issue, hopefully should be fixed before long
- Midori for GNOME, Surf for Sugar included as browsers.


systemd is included (as it is Fedora 15) but does not really work by 
default. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704783 describes 
the same problem and points to a solution:

- remove /var/run, /var/lock and /media from /etc/rwtab and reboot

The change was made on a date after the version of initscripts that is 
installed was created. There are no Fedora ARM updates yet, but maybe a 
new version fixes it automatically.



I've been working to get this to a reasonable testing state for a
while and finally all the bits fell into place. There's quite a bit of
change going on in the ARM Fedora 15 world. I would suggest regular
"yum update" to get the latest builds. I'm not expecting to do regular
builds of this, but will happily cut more builds if people think a new
one would be useful.


Unfortunately the fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo are non-functional 
for Fedora 15 on ARM. Instead, I am now using the most current builds 
directly from a repository on the koji infrastructure:

- http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-f15-build/latest/armhfp/

Does it make sense to create tickets for these kind of issues? Or is 
this email sufficient to help others?


Thanks for the release,
Niels



Download from:
http://build.laptop.org/F15-arm/os1/

For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

Peter
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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-09 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Niels de Vos  wrote:
> On 01/03/2012 01:03 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>> The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
>> audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.
>>
>> THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE AIMED AT CORE OS/HW DEVELOPERS
>>
>> This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
>> testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
>> number of things that don't work. This is expected and its a release
>> only really intended for people that understandard what hardfp is and
>> the significance of it and wish to test and develop further for this
>> fairly major feature both for upstream Fedora and the XO releases.
>>
>> This isn't a release that shouldn't have bug reports against it.
>>
>> So what are the known issues, and what works?
>>
>> - X works using fbdev. There's an issue with resolution. Fix this by
>> removing the "Virtual" line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.75.conf
>> - No accelerated X
>> - Sugar and GNOME do work quite well
>> - Networking seems to work OK
>> - Firefox DOESN'T work. Known issue, hopefully should be fixed before long
>> - Midori for GNOME, Surf for Sugar included as browsers.
>
>
> systemd is included (as it is Fedora 15) but does not really work by
> default. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704783 describes the
> same problem and points to a solution:
> - remove /var/run, /var/lock and /media from /etc/rwtab and reboot
>
> The change was made on a date after the version of initscripts that is
> installed was created. There are no Fedora ARM updates yet, but maybe a new
> version fixes it automatically.

I'll have a look, thanks for the heads up.

>> I've been working to get this to a reasonable testing state for a
>> while and finally all the bits fell into place. There's quite a bit of
>> change going on in the ARM Fedora 15 world. I would suggest regular
>> "yum update" to get the latest builds. I'm not expecting to do regular
>> builds of this, but will happily cut more builds if people think a new
>> one would be useful.
>
>
> Unfortunately the fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo are non-functional for
> Fedora 15 on ARM. Instead, I am now using the most current builds directly
> from a repository on the koji infrastructure:
> - http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-f15-build/latest/armhfp/

The entries in fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo should work just
fine. They do for me on both sfp and hfp platforms.

> Does it make sense to create tickets for these kind of issues? Or is this
> email sufficient to help others?

I wouldn't, its really a reference, I'll likely cut another build
shortly with other fixes but its not aimed at any sort of official
release but a stop gap until we can move to f17 snapshots.

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Re: The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-07 Thread Niels de Vos

On 01/03/2012 01:03 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE AIMED AT CORE OS/HW DEVELOPERS

This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
number of things that don't work. This is expected and its a release
only really intended for people that understandard what hardfp is and
the significance of it and wish to test and develop further for this
fairly major feature both for upstream Fedora and the XO releases.

This isn't a release that shouldn't have bug reports against it.

So what are the known issues, and what works?

- X works using fbdev. There's an issue with resolution. Fix this by
removing the "Virtual" line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.75.conf
- No accelerated X
- Sugar and GNOME do work quite well
- Networking seems to work OK
- Firefox DOESN'T work. Known issue, hopefully should be fixed before long
- Midori for GNOME, Surf for Sugar included as browsers.


systemd is included (as it is Fedora 15) but does not really work by 
default. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704783 describes 
the same problem and points to a solution:

- remove /var/run, /var/lock and /media from /etc/rwtab and reboot

The change was made on a date after the version of initscripts that is 
installed was created. There are no Fedora ARM updates yet, but maybe a 
new version fixes it automatically.



I've been working to get this to a reasonable testing state for a
while and finally all the bits fell into place. There's quite a bit of
change going on in the ARM Fedora 15 world. I would suggest regular
"yum update" to get the latest builds. I'm not expecting to do regular
builds of this, but will happily cut more builds if people think a new
one would be useful.


Unfortunately the fedora.repo and fedora-updates.repo are non-functional 
for Fedora 15 on ARM. Instead, I am now using the most current builds 
directly from a repository on the koji infrastructure:

- http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-f15-build/latest/armhfp/

Does it make sense to create tickets for these kind of issues? Or is 
this email sufficient to help others?


Thanks for the release,
Niels



Download from:
http://build.laptop.org/F15-arm/os1/

For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

Peter
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Re: [Techteam] The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-03 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/01/12 14:03, Peter Robinson wrote:

The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE AIMED AT CORE OS/HW DEVELOPERS

This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
number of things that don't work. This is expected and its a release
only really intended for people that understandard what hardfp is and
the significance of it and wish to test and develop further for this
fairly major feature both for upstream Fedora and the XO releases.

This isn't a release that shouldn't have bug reports against it.

So what are the known issues, and what works?

- X works using fbdev. There's an issue with resolution. Fix this by
removing the "Virtual" line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.75.conf
- No accelerated X
- Sugar and GNOME do work quite well
- Networking seems to work OK
- Firefox DOESN'T work. Known issue, hopefully should be fixed before long
- Midori for GNOME, Surf for Sugar included as browsers.

I've been working to get this to a reasonable testing state for a
while and finally all the bits fell into place. There's quite a bit of
change going on in the ARM Fedora 15 world. I would suggest regular
"yum update" to get the latest builds. I'm not expecting to do regular
builds of this, but will happily cut more builds if people think a new
one would be useful.

Download from:
http://build.laptop.org/F15-arm/os1/

For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

Peter


For booting I had to use the 'checker'-key (the right one of the game 
keys), otherwise I had a white screen after booting. (I think I had this 
with one of Daniel's early F16 builds, he might know how to fix this).


Removing the 'Virtual' line as indicated above fixed the resolution fine 
for me.


Regards,
   Simon



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Re: [Techteam] The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Martin Langhoff  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>> The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
>> audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.
>
> Right out of Barbarella!
>
>> This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
>> testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
>> number of things that don't work.
>
> And I am downloading it now :-)

We can build some binary graphics drivers for performance testing.
Still not to sort out the long term solution.

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Re: [Techteam] The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
> audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.

Right out of Barbarella!

> This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
> testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
> number of things that don't work.

And I am downloading it now :-)




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The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Robinson
The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE AIMED AT CORE OS/HW DEVELOPERS

This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
number of things that don't work. This is expected and its a release
only really intended for people that understandard what hardfp is and
the significance of it and wish to test and develop further for this
fairly major feature both for upstream Fedora and the XO releases.

This isn't a release that shouldn't have bug reports against it.

So what are the known issues, and what works?

- X works using fbdev. There's an issue with resolution. Fix this by
removing the "Virtual" line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.75.conf
- No accelerated X
- Sugar and GNOME do work quite well
- Networking seems to work OK
- Firefox DOESN'T work. Known issue, hopefully should be fixed before long
- Midori for GNOME, Surf for Sugar included as browsers.

I've been working to get this to a reasonable testing state for a
while and finally all the bits fell into place. There's quite a bit of
change going on in the ARM Fedora 15 world. I would suggest regular
"yum update" to get the latest builds. I'm not expecting to do regular
builds of this, but will happily cut more builds if people think a new
one would be useful.

Download from:
http://build.laptop.org/F15-arm/os1/

For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

Peter
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