Re: proposal for updating Activities/Joyride page

2008-12-08 Thread S Page
(resending, sorry wrong e-mail account)

Daniel Drake wrote:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Joyride is out of date.  Some
 activities, e.g. Record and Read, need new versions listed which are
 not backwards compatible with 8.2.

  The current listed versions are
 included because of Joyride including Activities/G1G1 which includes
 Activities/Record-G1G1, but if I were to modify that then
 Activities/G1G1/8.2 would be modified too, causing broken upgrades for
 8.2 users.

Working with dsd and bert I changed Activities
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 to transclude
Activities/Record_(8.2) instead of Activities/Record-G1G1.  That allowed
them to update the latter as dsd says.  They requested I also made the
change for several other activities that have forked from 8.2: Browse,
Chat, Etoys, Read.

I think the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Peru page needs the
same fix -- it should not be loading Browse (latest).

I don't understand why all activities on the 8.2 page aren't set this
way.  They should not pull in the latest version, they should pull in
the (8.2) version.  But a lot of the (8.2) fragments are out of date,
they don't list the latest version that works on 8.2.0.

Also, I'm not sure what the point of the -G1G1 files are.  Currently,
Activities/G1G1 transcludes Activities/Record-G1G1 , which redirects to
Activities/Record_(latest).  But there is no G1G1 version of any
activity, there are simply pages for each activity group that pull in
either the version that works in 8.2 or the latest version.  Why mention
-G1G1?

Rather than explain it here, it should be somewhere on the wiki,
referred to by http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_updater

I also rewrote the explanation in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 , statements like They
are part of the G1G1 activity pack are simply incorrect.
(Is there a new [[G1G1 activity pack]]?)

Cheers,
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Re: proposal for updating Activities/Joyride page

2008-12-08 Thread S Page
Daniel Drake wrote:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Joyride is out of date.  Some
 activities, e.g. Record and Read, need new versions listed which are
 not backwards compatible with 8.2.

  The current listed versions are
 included because of Joyride including Activities/G1G1 which includes
 Activities/Record-G1G1, but if I were to modify that then
 Activities/G1G1/8.2 would be modified too, causing broken upgrades for
 8.2 users.

Working with dsd and bert I changed Activities 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 to transclude 
Activities/Record_(8.2) instead of Activities/Record-G1G1.  That allowed 
them to update the latter as dsd says.  They requested I also made the 
change for several other activities that have forked from 8.2: Browse, 
Chat, Etoys, Read.

I think the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Peru page needs the 
same fix -- it should not be loading Browse (latest).

I don't understand why all activities on the 8.2 page aren't set this 
way.  They should not pull in the latest version, they should pull in 
the (8.2) version.  But a lot of the (8.2) fragments are out of date, 
they don't list the latest version that works on 8.2.0.

Also, I'm not sure what the point of the -G1G1 files are.  Currently, 
Activities/G1G1 transcludes Activities/Record-G1G1 , which redirects to 
Activities/Record_(latest).  But there is no G1G1 version of any 
activity, there are simply pages for each activity group that pull in 
either the version that works in 8.2 or the latest version.  Why mention 
-G1G1?

Rather than explain it here, it should be somewhere on the wiki, 
referred to by http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_updater

I also rewrote the explanation in 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 , statements like They 
are part of the G1G1 activity pack are simply incorrect.
(Is there a new [[G1G1 activity pack]]?)

Cheers,
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proposal for updating Activities/Joyride page

2008-12-07 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Joyride is out of date.  Some
activities, e.g. Record and Read, need new versions listed which are
not backwards compatible with 8.2. The current listed versions are
included because of Joyride including Activities/G1G1 which includes
Activities/Record-G1G1, but if I were to modify that then
Activities/G1G1/8.2 would be modified too, causing broken upgrades for
8.2 users.

So, I propose these changes:
 1. Record-G1G1 is copied to Record-G1G1-8.2
 2. Activities/G1G1/8.2 is updated to use Record-G1G1-8.2
 3. Record-G1G1 is updated to point to the newest version, which is
only compatible with 9.1

I'm happy to do this except I can't do step 2 (the 8.2 page is
locked). Any comments before I beg SJ for access?

Daniel
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Re: proposal for updating Activities/Joyride page

2008-12-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On 07.12.2008, at 14:15, Daniel Drake wrote:

 Hi,

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Joyride is out of date.  Some
 activities, e.g. Record and Read, need new versions listed which are
 not backwards compatible with 8.2. The current listed versions are
 included because of Joyride including Activities/G1G1 which includes
 Activities/Record-G1G1, but if I were to modify that then
 Activities/G1G1/8.2 would be modified too, causing broken upgrades for
 8.2 users.

 So, I propose these changes:
 1. Record-G1G1 is copied to Record-G1G1-8.2
 2. Activities/G1G1/8.2 is updated to use Record-G1G1-8.2
 3. Record-G1G1 is updated to point to the newest version, which is
 only compatible with 9.1

 I'm happy to do this except I can't do step 2 (the 8.2 page is
 locked). Any comments before I beg SJ for access?


I have been begging for this for three months:

http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/019720.html
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/020840.html
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/021276.html

Maybe you have more luck.

- Bert -


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