[SailfishDevel] If this list even used?
Where's the activity? WTF. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] If this list even used?
Le 2013-09-30 10:11, Nathan a écrit : Where's the activity? WTF. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list Here FTW ! -- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] If this list even used?
+1 :) On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Benoît HERVIER wrote: > > > Le 2013-09-30 10:11, Nathan a écrit : > > Where's the activity? WTF. >> __**_ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > > Here FTW ! > > -- > Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ > > __**_ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
Hi, It looks like we might now have a couple of possible options with Python apps on Sailfish with Qt5: 1) PyOtherSide: http://thp.io/2011/pyotherside/ 2) PyQt 5.0.1: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/news/pyqt-501 I've been playing around today, and unfortunately was unable to get either installed nicely on the Sailfish VM. PyOtherSide requires Python 3 (which as far as I can tell is not available in the Sailfish VM), and I thought I managed to get PyQt to make/install, but then I just got symbol errors when I tried to import the modules. Obviously I'm not very good at compilation/linking/dependencies/flags/headers etc. (I am a python user after all :P ). So I was wondering if there are any plans to add either PyOtherSide or PyQt5 to the sailfish repos? Failing that, some instructions for a dummy like me would be very welcome :) Thanks, -- Matt m...@mattaustin.me.uk http://mattaustin.me.uk/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
W dniu 30.09.2013 13:08, Matt Austin pisze: Hi, It looks like we might now have a couple of possible options with Python apps on Sailfish with Qt5: 1) PyOtherSide: http://thp.io/2011/pyotherside/ 2) PyQt 5.0.1: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/news/pyqt-501 I've been playing around today, and unfortunately was unable to get either installed nicely on the Sailfish VM. PyOtherSide requires Python 3 (which as far as I can tell is not available in the Sailfish VM), and I thought I managed to get PyQt to make/install, but then I just got symbol errors when I tried to import the modules. Obviously I'm not very good at compilation/linking/dependencies/flags/headers etc. (I am a python user after all :P ). So I was wondering if there are any plans to add either PyOtherSide or PyQt5 to the sailfish repos? Well I think I've seen Python 3 already in Mer, so most probably it will be in Sailfish (or is already). I also think that it is much more probable to see PyOtherSide on Sailfish. On Qt Developer Days happening next week in Berlin there is a talk about PyOtherSide by thp so maybe there something more will be known (or not). I think PyQt from Riverbank is rather not the best solution on Sailfish - don't know if it is worth to dedicate time for that if PyOtherSide will be available. I've recently met in Prague some guy who developed his apps with PySide on Meego and now is trying to rewrite them to PyOtherside. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
i m a bit busy to explain, but you can also use the python version which is installed on sailfish. Do not forget to install python-devel in toolkit via the nice sailfish icon. http://khertan.net/ownNotes http://github.com/khertan/ownNotes Regards -- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.netLe 30/09/13 13:26 FIlip Kłębczyk a écrit : W dniu 30.09.2013 13:08, Matt Austin pisze: > Hi, > > It looks like we might now have a couple of possible options with Python > apps on Sailfish with Qt5: > > > 1) PyOtherSide: http://thp.io/2011/pyotherside/ > > 2) PyQt 5.0.1: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/news/pyqt-501 > > > I've been playing around today, and unfortunately was unable to get > either installed nicely on the Sailfish VM. PyOtherSide requires Python > 3 (which as far as I can tell is not available in the Sailfish VM), and > I thought I managed to get PyQt to make/install, but then I just got > symbol errors when I tried to import the modules. > > Obviously I'm not very good at > compilation/linking/dependencies/flags/headers etc. (I am a python user > after all :P ). So I was wondering if there are any plans to add either > PyOtherSide or PyQt5 to the sailfish repos? Well I think I've seen Python 3 already in Mer, so most probably it will be in Sailfish (or is already). I also think that it is much more probable to see PyOtherSide on Sailfish. On Qt Developer Days happening next week in Berlin there is a talk about PyOtherSide by thp so maybe there something more will be known (or not). I think PyQt from Riverbank is rather not the best solution on Sailfish - don't know if it is worth to dedicate time for that if PyOtherSide will be available. I've recently met in Prague some guy who developed his apps with PySide on Meego and now is trying to rewrite them to PyOtherside. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
Hi, On Sep 30, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Matt Austin wrote: > It looks like we might now have a couple of possible options with Python apps > on Sailfish with Qt5: > > 1) PyOtherSide: http://thp.io/2011/pyotherside/ > > 2) PyQt 5.0.1: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/news/pyqt-501 > > I've been playing around today, and unfortunately was unable to get either > installed nicely on the Sailfish VM. PyOtherSide requires Python 3 (which as > far as I can tell is not available in the Sailfish VM), and I thought I > managed to get PyQt to make/install, but then I just got symbol errors when I > tried to import the modules. > > Obviously I'm not very good at compilation/linking/dependencies/flags/headers > etc. (I am a python user after all :P ). So I was wondering if there are any > plans to add either PyOtherSide or PyQt5 to the sailfish repos? I can't say too much about PyQt, as I haven't used it myself. For PyQt, you might have to package it yourself, but be aware of PyQt's licensing: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/software/pyqt/license The rest of this mail deals with PyOtherSide: It's available in the mer-python3 repository: https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-python3 In the sb2 target and on a device, you can add that repo using: zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-python3/latest_armv7hl/mer-python3.repo In the Emulator, you can add that repo using: zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-python3/latest_i486/mer-python3.repo After that (and a possible "zypper ref"), you can install the QML Plugin in the emulator using: zypper in pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5 If you are packaging an application, you should also add this to the RPM .spec file (as QML dependencies are not auto-detected): Requires: pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5 Be aware that this is a run-time dependency, so you don't really need to install the QML plugin in your SDK target (it doesn't need to be available at build-time), only on the emulator and on the device where you actually run the application. The sources are available here: https://github.com/mer-python3/ The API documentation is here: http://thp.io/2011/pyotherside/doc/classQPython.html Some basic usage examples are here: https://github.com/thp/pyotherside/tree/master/examples If you're coming from PySide on Harmattan, it's a totally different setup -- instead of launching a Python interpreter that then loads the PySide bindings, which then resolve all Qt symbols that have bindings (takes a long time), you start out with a normal QML application (startup speed = same as C++ QML application) and then import the PyOtherSide QML plugin there (only loads libpython), and once the UI is up (i.e. the user can see your application window), you can then start loading Python modules, etc.. Also, try to avoid the synchronous functions, and use the asynchronous API instead (see PyOtherSide's documentation for examples). Think of your Python code as the "data backend implementation" for your QML UI, and think of your QML code as your main application. Or in other words, "QML uses the services of Python for its backend", instead of "Python uses the services of QML for its frontend". Also, it's Python >= 3.3 only at this point. See http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/ and https://github.com/thp/python2sucks to figure out why this is a very good idea and why you want to have that. Protip: If you want to have a Python 3 interpreter to play with on the command line, install "python3-base" from that repository. HTH :) Thomas ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] SailfishOS style buttons
What is more matches for SailfshOS style: IconButtons with actions or actions in pulldown menu? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS style buttons
Hi Олег,
Pulley menus are good for global actions relevant for the page ("New message",
"Search", "Sync", "Update"), context menus and icon buttons are more
appropriate for actions related to a specific content item (photo, person,
location, song, etc.) displayed inside the page.
As a rule of thumb primary action (open item in full-screen, call in phone,
play in video player, etc.) is activated by tapping the content item, and most
secondary actions (delete, edit, favorite, add to playlist, etc.) are accessed
by long-pressing the item and selecting appropriate action from the context
menu that opens.
In general most actions which you would traditionally show in a toolbar in
Sailfish you instead expose from a pull-down menu for quicker access and better
one-handed use. But there are still use cases for toolbars, for example when
the pulley menu is already reserved for something else or when the user is
expected to scroll a long list of content (as the pulley menu is only
accessible on the top of the list).
Some examples of icon button usage:
1.) clearing text field contents, cross icon "image://theme/icon-m-clear"
2.) favoriting item, star icon (favorite ?
"image://theme/icon-m-favorite-selected" : "image://theme/icon-m-favorite")
3.) appending new content item, e.g. new person in recipient field, plus icon
(image://theme/icon-m-add").
Cheers,
Joona
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Subject: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS style buttons
What is more matches for SailfshOS style: IconButtons with actions or actions
in pulldown menu?
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[SailfishDevel] OAuth2 authorization for application
Hi. How do you authorize ur application, if it should open webpage with Allow/Disallow access button to service and how do you get token from site, if access granted? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
Em 30-09-2013 09:40, Thomas Perl escreveu: Also, it's Python >= 3.3 only at this point. See http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/ and https://github.com/thp/python2sucks to figure out why this is a very good idea and why you want to have that. Hi Thomas Perl, Citing your words (in Twitter) : to convert this plugin to Python 2.7 is very simple, in "pyotherside/python.pri" (source code), change "python3.3" with "python2.7". For example, in Qt 5.1 for Linux PC, I've made this change in PyOtherSide, built it and used it in a simple "Limit.py"/"Limit.qml" mathematical application (http://www.robertocolistete.net/Limit/) using Qt Quick Controls & Python 2.7 & SymPy, see the screenshot below. Limit/Calculus will be available on Sailfish. I think it would be interesting to also have "pyotherside-qml-plugin-python-qt5" (using Python 2.7, because it is the default Python on Mer/Sailfish) on Sailfish OS in a default Mer/Sailfish repository. So making Python softwares with PyOtherSide on Sailfish would be very simple (no need to use Python 3, no need to the user add repositories, etc). The Talk Maemo.org topic "Python & Qt5 on Sailfish" : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91049 has many useful discussions about PyOtherSide, PyQt5, etc. About PyQt5 on Mer/Sailfish, I think it is worth to : help porting many PyQt4/PyQt5 softwares from PC and Maemo 4 & 5; have all Qt5 functions in Python. More programming options -> more softwares on Mer/Sailfish. 8-) Regards, Roberto <>___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] If this list even used?
Guess he doesn't get anything like me some time ago. -- Marcin 2013/9/30 Jukka Eklund > +1 :) > > > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Benoît HERVIER wrote: > >> >> >> Le 2013-09-30 10:11, Nathan a écrit : >> >> Where's the activity? WTF. >>> __**_ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> >> >> Here FTW ! >> >> -- >> Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ >> >> __**_ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] If this list even used?
W dniu 30.09.2013 17:24, Marcin Mielniczuk pisze: Guess he doesn't get anything like me some time ago. Do you have an idea what was it in your case? I mean the reason why you didn't receive mails. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] SilicaWebView
Hi. Exmaple doesn't work with: LinkView.qml:7 SilicaWebView is not a type May be I need some special imports? How I can force it to work? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] SilicaWebView
W dniu 30.09.2013 18:58, Oleg Linkin pisze: Hi. Exmaple doesn't work with: LinkView.qml:7 SilicaWebView is not a type Well, there is no such component in Silica components, see documentation: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-silica-all.html May be I need some special imports? How I can force it to work? You should use instead WebView (which is just a part of QtQuick): http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtwebkit/qml-qtwebkit3-webview.html Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] If this list even used?
iirc using inboxalias.com address. -- Marcin 2013/9/30 FIlip Kłębczyk > W dniu 30.09.2013 17:24, Marcin Mielniczuk pisze: > > Guess he doesn't get anything like me some time ago. >> > > Do you have an idea what was it in your case? I mean the reason why you > didn't receive mails. > > Regards, > Filip > > > __**_ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
30.9.2013 16:15, Roberto Colistete Jr.: About PyQt5 on Mer/Sailfish, I think it is worth to : help porting many PyQt4/PyQt5 softwares from PC and Maemo 4 & 5; have all Qt5 functions in Python. More programming options -> more softwares on Mer/Sailfish. 8-) I would second that. While I think at least in my case, PyOtherSide & Python backend should be able to cover all what is needed for my modRana and Mieru Sailfish ports, I think there might be some use-cases where all the various Qt class wrappings provided by PyQt might be useful. Stuff like XML/JSON parsing, network access manager, Qt resources, QObject, signals & slots, QWidget, QThread, QtSerialPort, etc. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python & Qt5 (PyOtherSide / PyQt)
Hi Thomas, On 30 September 2013 20:40, Thomas Perl wrote: > > It's available in the mer-python3 repository: > https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-python3 > > > After that (and a possible "zypper ref"), you can install the QML Plugin > in the emulator using: > zypper in pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5 > > If you are packaging an application, you should also add this to the RPM > .spec file (as QML dependencies are not auto-detected): > Requires: pyotherside-qml-plugin-python3-qt5 > Fantastic, just what I was after - I'll have a play with it this week :) Thanks very much for your help! -- Matt m...@mattaustin.me.uk http://mattaustin.me.uk/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
