Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Hi Valerio, that Google support page doesn't offer a real solution it seems. It confirms that Google Sync will stop working and it says that IMAP, CardDav and CalDav are available instead. So, can we use IMAP+CardDav+CalDav on Jolla? On 17 December 2013 10:27, Valerio Valerio wrote: > Hi, > > > On 17/12/13 10:11, Nils Jeisecke wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> - Fonts look generally pretty bad (most obvious in the launcher) >> - Scrolling makes pixels look "jaggy". Open Terminal, type ls, go to >> app switcher and drag a little bit => pixels in the minimized terminal >> app start to dance around >> - Android Tasks must be handled by the Sailfish Taskswitcher. BB10 >> does this right. >> - Pinning would be useful >> - email Push over Exchange does not work for me (using Google) >> > > is that a payed account ? (google apps for business for e.g). > If not, access will stop working at the end of the year, does not make > sense to invest time and resource in a service that will stop working in a > few more days(unless google extent the support again). Google suggests > these alternatives: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2716936 > > Best regards, > > Valério > > >> >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Kari Pihkala >> wrote: >> >>> 2. There should be a way to go straight from Lock Screen to Launcher > (instead of needing to go through Home) > i don't agree, for multi-processing this is better, plus there's a pulley menu on lock for the relevant apps... i suppose this is configurable >>> I also have difficulties with the Home screen and I would rather use the >>> Launcher screen to switch between apps. I think the reason is that >>> >>> in Home screen: >>> >>> * Covers move around so I have to go through them one by one to find >>> the >>> app I need. Only if I continuously swap between two apps, I might trust >>> that >>> the app is the first or second one in the grid. >>> * Cover texts/images change, so I have to read/decypher images to >>> understand which app they relate to. This is slow. >>> >>> in Launcher screen: >>> >>> * App icons don't move around. I can rely on my spatial memory and >>> find the >>> app always at the same spot. Often, I have already moved my finger over >>> the >>> app before the screen has stopped scrolling. >>> * App icons don't change. Recognizing a familiar icon is faster than >>> reading/decyphering images. >>> >>> Perhaps the number of covers displayed on Home could be customizable? I >>> would limit it to three small ones (or remove all). The app icons could >>> move >>> up to occupy the free space. >>> >>> Also pinning the covers would help (I would pin most of them). >>> >>> I never close apps, so I have all the time nine small covers on the Home >>> screen. Am I doing it wrong? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Kari >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/12/14 AL13N >>> Hi, > > Moving from N9/Meego two days ago, I find Jolla/Sailfish very easy to > use, > and have some feedback (wishlist?). I hope this is the right place for > this feedback, otherwise please point me to the correct place. > i'm not a jolla dev, nor do i have a jolla, but i'll reply and give my thoughts... Current version: 1.0.1.10 (notification for version upgrade came almost > immediate I got online) > > Sailfish/Platform specific: > 1. From Lock Screen, swiping-up should bring me to Home screen, but it > often brings up the Events screen even if there is no > notifications/events. A friend's N9 community edition Sailfish allows > swiping from the left/right side on Lock screen - the same doesn’t work > on > my Jolla. > if you swipe up from the bottom, it brings event screen, if you swipe up from the middle, it brings home screen. takes some getting used to... maybe swiping left/right doens't work if you don't have a TOH? 2. There should be a way to go straight from Lock Screen to Launcher > (instead of needing to go through Home) > i don't agree, for multi-processing this is better, plus there's a pulley menu on lock for the relevant apps... i suppose this is configurable 3. Easier (less taps) accessible configuration (eg WLAN, Bluetooth) > from > any screen (not just "Settings") > wasn't there some kind of cover where you could do this? there's been a request for pinning covers, i would like this in combination... 4. Need easier way view the current connection (All the connection > related > icons on Lock Screen are hard to decode at least initially - in > particular > for the Mobile Network Data icon, but WLAN icon also hard to decode) > 5. More configurable settings (colour selection for text/notification > icons/etc, background picture, additional items to be displayed on Lock > screen) > this is done via ambience iinm, but i agree that this Abience should really be allowed t
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
I will start working as soon as possible to SailSoma, the porting of CuteSoma (Soma.fm client) from N9 to SailfishOS :) On 14 December 2013 10:41, AL13N wrote: > if there are people who are working on apps, and want to let it know, so > that no other devs will waste time making the same apps, you can add these > here: > > http://elinux.org/Jolla > > in the appriopriate section. > > Thanks! > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
Hi Damien, feel free to develop a more complete client for Soma.fm :) Better two than none :D I will develop it anyway because I want to learn some SilicaUI stuff :) Cheers. On 17 December 2013 22:58, Damien Tardy-Panis wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > I'm already working on a "more complete" SomaFM client (more features: > channels favorites, songs bookmarks, channels sorting, channels quality, > support,...) > I checked your code to learn some stuff btw :-) > Everything is ready except the actual streaming music player which I just > started > > It will be available in a couple of months maybe depending on my > availability. > I just received my Jolla and I want to use the app for testing for some > time before submitting it. > > Damien > > On Tuesday 17 December 2013 22:39:09 a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I will start working as soon as possible to SailSoma, the porting of > > CuteSoma (Soma.fm client) from N9 to SailfishOS :) > > > > > > On 14 December 2013 10:41, AL13N wrote: > > > > > if there are people who are working on apps, and want to let it know, > so > > > that no other devs will waste time making the same apps, you can add > these > > > here: > > > > > > http://elinux.org/Jolla > > > > > > in the appriopriate section. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > ___ > > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones
Hi Christofer, did you give a look (and maybe contributed) to this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqcXroZyLBjPdGJ4WmhOMlZBaVdEc2g1TmY3cXNLeWc&usp=sharing#gid=0? Did you also read my tweet about how to get FedEx tracking number https://twitter.com/andreagrandi/status/413281942373535744 ? If not, please do it :) On 19 December 2013 12:58, wrote: > Hi > > I know this isn't strictly a developer question, but as having real > hardware is an important step in testing I am going to ask in any case. > > So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone. The > pre-order was confirmed on 25th November. > > From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order" page > on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in picking". Today > the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website has changed, looking > like it did some weeks ago, and the order just shows the status "paid". > > This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it will > be delivered. > > What's going on? Are others in the same boat? > > Chris > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones
I didn't pay anything more. Afaik between UK and Finland there is freedom of commerce, so no custom to be paid. (it's not like USA-EU). Did you use my suggestion to get the tracking number from FedEx website? On 19 December 2013 17:10, Chris Walker < cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:46:58 +0100 > christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: > > > Ciao Andrea > > > > That was new to me, but I have now entered my details. > > > > It looks like Switzerland and Norway have received no deliveries at > > all yet. > > > > And when it is finally sent, then there will be the additional delay > > of the Swiss Customs ... > > Is any import duty payable when the phone hits customs? I'm curious > whether customs in the UK will hold up the phone or whether I really > will get it before Christmas - status is shown 'Picking'. > > > Patience is required. > > Indeed. > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Can't use Mer SDK virtual machine under OSX
Hi, I'm using OSX 10.9.1, latest VirtualBox (4.3.6) and I've installed all the updates available in QtCreator for SailfishOS SDK. I've created a sample project (that you can find here https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma ) and I'm trying to build it on Mer SDK vm and the deploy to Jolla device. I click on the "Start SDK" icon, then I choose Build -> Deploy project, it does something and at the end I get this error http://pastebin.com/Rw5YUCbs What's wrong? How can I fix this and make the build/deploy work? Thanks. -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] together.jolla.com
... is open! Go there and contribute with ideas :) Thanks! -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Are Jolla core apps opensource ?
The two things are not related at all :) Even "Linux", that is 100% opensource, has hundred of people paid to contribute to it full time. I know that the comparison is a bit unfair, but it's just to explain that it can be normal to be paid to develop something that is opensource. Can Jolla afford to rely completely on the community? They can't, at this stage. They pay employees to develop some apps. This doesn't mean these apps can't be opensourced for this reason. So probably there is a different reason that only Jolla can explain. Cheers. On 25 December 2013 22:17, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > I think there are persons in Jolla who receive a salary for developing > > because of that Jolla Core is not opensource (yet?) > > > On 26.12.2013 03:05, Vincent B. wrote: > >> I'm not sure about it, since I'm unable to find the sources for Jolla >> core apps such as the app clock. I'd like to add the ability to select a >> timer's duration at the second precision level. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Vincent >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] File not found errors while generating rpms: how can I fix them?
Hi, After having transformed my app, because I started it with the template that was shipping with the first version of the SDK, to use the new template, I think there are still some things to be fixed in .pro or .yaml When I try to deploy my app using "Deploy as RPM package" I get these errors: http://pastebin.com/qJv9L1cA I think the problem is in the .pro or in the .yaml and you can find both files (and also the full source code) here: - https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/rpm/harbour-sailsoma.yaml - https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/harbour-sailsoma.pro I've tried to give a look around to other projects but I cannot understand the differences (or better... ALL projects seem to be different from each other and use different conventions... it would not be better to use all the same convention and having QtC to check what's missing in .pro and .yaml for us?). It's a bit frustrating the fact that I'm spending more time to make project/packaging/deployment work instead of coding the app :( Thanks for your help. Cheers. -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] File not found errors while generating rpms: how can I fix them?
Hi, yes I deleted the branch because another person on #sailfishos suggested me how to fix the problem. I merged the branch with master and deleted the branch. You can find the whole source code here https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma but to be quick it was a matter of putting all the qml files under qml/ and removing some stuff from the .pro Thanks in any case :) On 5 January 2014 18:48, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Sunday 05 January 2014, a.gra...@gmail.com escribió: > > - > > > https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/rpm/harbour-sails > > oma.yaml - > > > https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/harbour-sailsoma > . > > pro > > Have you fixed that already? Because those URLs are 404 now. You deleted > the > branch? > > > I've tried to give a look around to other projects but I cannot > understand > > the differences (or better... ALL projects seem to be different from each > > other and use different conventions... > > Because not all projects are the same, and because not all projects are > developed by the same people. > > > it would not be better to use all > > the same convention and having QtC to check what's missing in .pro and > > .yaml for us?). > > That's even harder, and worse. You could define some high level project > that > would generate a .pro file, but once you generate the project file, you > would > end up needing to modify the .pro anyways. And you would need extra > documentation for the added layer. > > I suggest you that you try to be patient, and don't try to learn all it at > the > same time. QMake is not awesome, and is not the best documented thing in > the > world, but is manageable, and for the use case of the majority of Sailfish > developers, is not harder that doing the application itself. > > The problem is that one very quickly wants to do that, and at the same > time do > the packaging, which is another step, and is not necessarily well > documented > (IMHO) compared to qmake. > > If you can, try making your application work on the desktop as well. At > least > make it compile and install, so you can try simply if all files get copied > to > where you want. Then you can start blaming RPM or the packaging > infrastructure > if something doesn't work. Otherwise, without good knowledge of any of the > two > sides (building and packaging), you are shooting with your eyes closed. > > -- > Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 > http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
