Re: [SailfishDevel] [SPAM] Re: Does Sailfish support PyQt5?
Yes it does. But long story short, Python WILL BE supported in Sailfish one way or the other, that much I can promise. Sailfish/Mer basically is Fedora mobile which means that just about anything that works on Fedora will work on Sailfish too. Jolla might not support Python but there will be third party support if that's the case. And I have no problem with that as Jolla have around fifty devs or something so if they only support C++ in Harbour it's basically a matter of resources. But today there is Openrepos that supports PyQt. And if you don't like GPLv3 there is also Pyotherside which is a QML plugin so that is not the same thing as PyQt but still could work for most apps. https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Python_Development Happy new year all! Jens On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.comwrote: 26.12.2013 23:34, Mikael Hermansson: Its not my opinion it's a fact why should a new platform depend on deprecated libs or language versions when we know it very soon will disappear even from upstream projects? And dists? Its only leads to maintanance hell. And when it disappear developers and endusers gets angry because apps not work. AFAIK Jolla don't recommend python2 even if it still exists in MeR or the repos it may very well dissapear sooner or later. So if you really want PyQT you better depend on python3 because that IS the future. I think PyQt5 supports Python 3 and can be built against it just fine. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] [SPAM] Re: Does Sailfish support PyQt5?
AFAIK python is NOT installed from scratch in sf. also if python will be supported it will be python3 as thomas already has said. Thats the way to go. Python 2 should be seen as deprecated on new platforms IMHO... Regards Mikael Thu Dec 26 2013 19:00:35 GMT+0100 (CET) skrev Jens Persson: PyQt works very well on the Jolla phone and you can get it from Openrepos. It should support the whole Qt C++ API except for deprecated modules. As Sailfish is using Python2 by default I've built it with that. Porting from Pyside to PyQt is very easy and takes only a few hours for a small app and you can publish them on Openrepos as Harbour does not support PyQt and maybe never will. Just remember that PyQt is GPLv3 so you must use that license or pay for a commercial license from Riverbankcomputing. IMHO this is not a big problem as most Python apps are opensource and you better stick with native code for closed source anyway. Greets Jens On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Ye Zetao kongkong...@gmail.com wrote: Hello,I am a developer of python and I know that Sailfish support Qt with C++, but I am not familiar with C++,So I want to know that if Sailfish support PyQt5 ? Thanks :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Skickat från min Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] [SPAM] Re: Does Sailfish support PyQt5?
Its not my opinion it's a fact why should a new platform depend on deprecated libs or language versions when we know it very soon will disappear even from upstream projects? And dists? Its only leads to maintanance hell. And when it disappear developers and endusers gets angry because apps not work. AFAIK Jolla don't recommend python2 even if it still exists in MeR or the repos it may very well dissapear sooner or later. So if you really want PyQT you better depend on python3 because that IS the future. Also think about the endusers, I know very well that its fun to play with every libs and possible combination but still can't hold every possible combination and endusers are probadly not intrested to install to many thirdparty repositorys just to get one application work. Right now it already seems to be an issues with all those thirdparty dropbox links releases latest days... Regards Mikael On Thursday 26 December 2013 20.15.19 Jens Persson wrote: Well, that's your opinion. But today it's Python2 that is default in Sailfish and not three and that's why I built PyQt with two. Afaik all Python modules currently available as default (dev mode enabled) are built with Python2. Greets Jens On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se wrote: AFAIK python is NOT installed from scratch in sf. also if python will be supported it will be python3 as thomas already has said. Thats the way to go. Python 2 should be seen as deprecated on new platforms IMHO... Regards Mikael Thu Dec 26 2013 19:00:35 GMT+0100 (CET) skrev Jens Persson: PyQt works very well on the Jolla phone and you can get it from Openrepos. It should support the whole Qt C++ API except for deprecated modules. As Sailfish is using Python2 by default I've built it with that. Porting from Pyside to PyQt is very easy and takes only a few hours for a small app and you can publish them on Openrepos as Harbour does not support PyQt and maybe never will. Just remember that PyQt is GPLv3 so you must use that license or pay for a commercial license from Riverbankcomputing. IMHO this is not a big problem as most Python apps are opensource and you better stick with native code for closed source anyway. Greets Jens On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Ye Zetao kongkong...@gmail.com wrote: Hello,I am a developer of python and I know that Sailfish support Qt with C++, but I am not familiar with C++,So I want to know that if Sailfish support PyQt5 ? Thanks :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Skickat från min Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Skickat från Lenovo Thinkpad X230 running Kubuntu desktop ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] [SPAM] Re: Does Sailfish support PyQt5?
26.12.2013 23:34, Mikael Hermansson: Its not my opinion it's a fact why should a new platform depend on deprecated libs or language versions when we know it very soon will disappear even from upstream projects? And dists? Its only leads to maintanance hell. And when it disappear developers and endusers gets angry because apps not work. AFAIK Jolla don't recommend python2 even if it still exists in MeR or the repos it may very well dissapear sooner or later. So if you really want PyQT you better depend on python3 because that IS the future. I think PyQt5 supports Python 3 and can be built against it just fine. Also think about the endusers, I know very well that its fun to play with every libs and possible combination but still can't hold every possible combination and endusers are probadly not intrested to install to many thirdparty repositorys just to get one application work. Right now it already seems to be an issues with all those thirdparty dropbox links releases latest days... Regards Mikael On Thursday 26 December 2013 20.15.19 Jens Persson wrote: Well, that's your opinion. But today it's Python2 that is default in Sailfish and not three and that's why I built PyQt with two. Afaik all Python modules currently available as default (dev mode enabled) are built with Python2. Greets Jens On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se wrote: AFAIK python is NOT installed from scratch in sf. also if python will be supported it will be python3 as thomas already has said. Thats the way to go. Python 2 should be seen as deprecated on new platforms IMHO... Regards Mikael Thu Dec 26 2013 19:00:35 GMT+0100 (CET) skrev Jens Persson: PyQt works very well on the Jolla phone and you can get it from Openrepos. It should support the whole Qt C++ API except for deprecated modules. As Sailfish is using Python2 by default I've built it with that. Porting from Pyside to PyQt is very easy and takes only a few hours for a small app and you can publish them on Openrepos as Harbour does not support PyQt and maybe never will. Just remember that PyQt is GPLv3 so you must use that license or pay for a commercial license from Riverbankcomputing. IMHO this is not a big problem as most Python apps are opensource and you better stick with native code for closed source anyway. Greets Jens On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Ye Zetao kongkong...@gmail.com wrote: Hello,I am a developer of python and I know that Sailfish support Qt with C++, but I am not familiar with C++,So I want to know that if Sailfish support PyQt5 ? Thanks :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Skickat från min Jolla ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Skickat från Lenovo Thinkpad X230 running Kubuntu desktop ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
