Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Chris Walker
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
> 
> We are super excited to announce that we’ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
> 
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
> 
> JOIN NOW 
> 
>  

Sold out by 12:10?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Claudio Campeggi
I've been checking the website after 12:00 UTC and to me ot never went on sale 
in the first place.. always out of stock.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:18:02 +0100
From: Chris Walker 
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
    Program and Jolla C
Message-ID: <20160614121802.5c88f...@the-walker-household.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
>
> We are super excited to announce that we?ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
>
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
>
> JOIN NOW
> <http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
[http://shop.jolla.com/media/images/default/jolla-device-fb-share-1.jpg]<http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>

Jolla Online Shop | SAILFISH COMMUNITY DEVICE PROGRAM - Community & 
Developers<http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
shop.jolla.com
uploads/2016/05/JollaC_Device.jpg" alt="Jolla C" style="width:100%; height: 
auto;">



Sold out by 12:10?



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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Claudio Campeggi
It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead of the 
Announced 12:00 UTC


It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:

https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html

James Noori james.noori at jolla.com 
<mailto:devel%40lists.sailfishos.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSailfishDevel%5D%20Available%20now%3A%20Sailfish%20Community%20Device%20Program%0A%09and%20Jolla%20C&In-Reply-To=%3C575FD5AE.3000102%40jolla.com%3E>
Tue Jun 14 10:00:14 UTC 2016


and is consistent with TJC posts on the new sale:
https://together.jolla.com/question/135407/jolla-c-campaign-to-add-more-users-whos-interested/?answer=136393#post-id-136393


so that explains why is already sold out.


well, let's wait for a new batch..





I've been checking the website after 12:00 UTC and to me ot never went on sale 
in the first place.. always out of stock.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:18:02 +0100
From: Chris Walker 
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
    Program and Jolla C
Message-ID: <20160614121802.5c88f...@the-walker-household.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
>
> We are super excited to announce that we?ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
>
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
>
> JOIN NOW
> <http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
[http://shop.jolla.com/media/images/default/jolla-device-fb-share-1.jpg]<http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>

Jolla Online Shop | SAILFISH COMMUNITY DEVICE PROGRAM - Community & 
Developers<http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
shop.jolla.com
uploads/2016/05/JollaC_Device.jpg" alt="Jolla C" style="width:100%; height: 
auto;">



Sold out by 12:10?



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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Chris Walker
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
Claudio Campeggi  wrote:

> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> 
> 
> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> 
> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html

It isn't consistent at all!

The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread r0kk3rz
it says CEST, not UTC. Which is UTC+2 according to google

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Chris Walker <
cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
>
> > It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> > of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> >
> >
> > It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> >
> > https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
>
> It isn't consistent at all!
>
> The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> James Noori  wrote:
>
> I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Ruediger Schiller
Time announced on ML was 1pm EET (local .fi time), which is UTC+3, the shop 
went online
couple of minutes past 10:00 UTC which is 1pm EET.

How is UK time +0200? BST is UTC+1?!

James, you might want to announce in UTC from now on.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 01:55:40PM +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
> 
> > It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> > of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> > 
> > 
> > It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> > 
> > https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
> 
> It isn't consistent at all!
> 
> The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> James Noori  wrote:
> 
> I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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so long and thanks for all the fish


Rüdiger Schiller
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| +** *Chem|st * **+ |
| ++ |
| ++ |
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Harald Schmitt
Am 14.06.2016 um 15:07 schrieb Ruediger Schiller:
> Time announced on ML was 1pm EET (local .fi time), which is UTC+3, the shop 
> went online
> couple of minutes past 10:00 UTC which is 1pm EET.
>
> How is UK time +0200? BST is UTC+1?!
>
> James, you might want to announce in UTC from now on.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 01:55:40PM +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
>> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
>>
>>> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
>>> of the Announced 12:00 UTC
>>>
>>>
>>> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
>>>
>>> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
>> It isn't consistent at all!
>>
>> The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
>> James Noori  wrote:
>>
>> I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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> so long and thanks for all the fish
>
>
> Rüdiger Schiller
> ++
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> | ++ |
> | ++ |
> ++
>
>
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I recommend you link to timeanddate.com it is a nice tool.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160614T13&p1=101
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Chris Walker
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:39:41 +0200
Harald Schmitt  wrote:

> >> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
> >>  
> >>> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC
> >>> instead of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html  
> >> It isn't consistent at all!
> >>
> >> The email to me was timed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> >> James Noori  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm mightily pissed off about this.

> I recommend you link to timeanddate.com it is a nice tool.
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160614T13&p1=101

I think you're all missing the point. Yes I screwed up by mis-reading
the time BUT, I got an email at 12 o'clock UK time saying that the
devices were now available when plainly they weren't. They had all been
sold by then. So I claim the email mis-represented the state of the
store. Hence why I was pissed off.

I can't change things now but it sure leaves a bad taste.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

2016-06-14 Thread Dietmar Schwertberger

On 14.06.2016 18:38, Chris Walker wrote:

I think you're all missing the point. Yes I screwed up by mis-reading
the time BUT, I got an email at 12 o'clock UK time saying that the
devices were now available when plainly they weren't. They had all been
sold by then. So I claim the email mis-represented the state of the
store. Hence why I was pissed off.
I'm a bit surprised, as I got mine exactly at 12:01 CEST, which was in 
time to order.
And according to the headers of my mail server, the mail to this list 
was also at 12:00 CEST.


Regards,

Dietmar

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