Re: [SailfishDevel] Farewell to Jolla community!

2014-05-25 Thread Dag Nygren
On Saturday 24 May 2014 10:51:08 Filip Kłębczyk wrote:
> It was very nice experience to meet many of the people in this 
> community, despite the whole harm that has happened to me from Thomas, 
> Carsten and Jolla the company. I think there is nothing left and I need 
> to leave.

Thanks for that!

This has been like watching the kids in kindergarten, of which one (you)
with Aspergers (like our son).

It is a private thing and not for the mailing list.

Have a nice life!
Dag
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Farewell to Jolla community!

2014-05-25 Thread houpsa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOoJK_fY7nE


Le 05/24/2014 10:51 AM, Filip Kłębczyk a écrit :
It was very nice experience to meet many of the people in this 
community, despite the whole harm that has happened to me from Thomas, 
Carsten and Jolla the company. I think there is nothing left and I 
need to leave, as I gave so many chances for Jolla to fix this serious 
issue and they completely blew it. The last days just confirmed my 
worst fears that Jolla is a moral bankrupt and is unable to deal 
properly with problems. I guess everyone that hasn't lost his common 
sense has noticed that.


Now despite I'm leaving the community, I will do all the steps to 
spread the information about what happened here and how I was harmed. 
I see it as a justice, the justice I deserve to defend my good name 
(I'm active for around 10 years in various communities. I am a memeber 
of Polish Linux Users Group, OpenStreetMap Poland, Hackerspace Silesia 
and last but not least, recently founded Polish Python User Group, so 
my involvement in those relies on the trust that people in all those 
communites has given me choosing on important functions at those 
associations. Also, leaving the community doesn't mean I'm leaving my 
friends from it, but I'm happy that I've figured out who my real 
friends are and what people only pretended to be my friends.


To Jolla:
My offer of mediation lost its sense. I'm no longer interested in 
having to deal with your company at any level.


To Jolla Investors:
I hope you are reading all of this and will know what to do if you 
care about the rest of your money that haven't been pumped yet to this 
corpo-startup.


To Jolla Partners - Tieto, F-Secure, Nokia/Here and others:
I also hope someone will point you to this material and you will think 
twice with who you are partnering. It might also affect your companies 
image, especially F-Secure whose business, I would say, highly depends 
on that.


To mass media:
Feel free to contact me if you would like to make an article or 
interview about the whole problem. Reading the Sailfish-devel mailing 
list mail by mail will help you to understand a lot. If the mailing 
list, which is now a good evidence, will be deleted as someone 
suggested, then there is still a lot of evidence at individuals 
mailboxes.


To community members:
I don't know what will be soon left from Sailfish and Jolla (Mer and 
Nemo will probably prevail, including Glacier UI as they are open 
source, I hope qwazix and locusf, which are a great guys will still 
work on that despite everything!), but I guess there are some other 
interesting projects like Neo900, Ubuntu Touch or Tizen.


To Finns:
I know it's disappointing as Jolla is a Finnish company and you 
probably had highest hopes from all of us. Unfortunately that's how 
life goes, let's move forward, you still have Nokia and there are many 
other interesting and promising startups in Finland.


To Jolla employees:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlBBLc6vno
Remember the motto of my blog?

Regards,
Filip

PS. Probably I'm going offline for a few days, need to relax and spend 
the rest of the weekend with my good friends and my family.
PS2. I won't post anything more here, but I will make a thread on TMO 
as some people suggested.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Farewell to Jolla community!

2014-05-24 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
OK, NOW YOU GET THIS PERSONAL BY MENTIONING FINNS. GET A SNICKERS FILIP REALLY !

AS A FINN, I WILL SAY THAT TODAY I HAVE MORE HOPE AND TRUST ON JOLLA THAN EVER.
WE ARE ALWAYS REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO, EVEN WHEN DOING SHIT - LITERALLY.

AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I WILL SAY ONLY THIS - THANK YOU FOR YOUR DECISION, 
MAYBE THIS WILL NOW GET EVEN BETTER.

I DON'T KNOW YOU PERSONALLY, AND AFTER THIS I DON'T MIND KNOWING YOU IN THE 
FUTURE.
I HAD SOME GOOD HOPES IN THE BEGINNING SEEING FK_LX SHOWING JOLLA SOME PRESSURE 
TO OPENSOURCE THEIR CODE. BUT REALLY SOON I GOT IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE JUST 
ATTACKING TO EVERYONE WHO IS NOT IMMEDIATELY SHOWING THEIR CREATIONS SOURCE TO 
PUBLIC. IT CAN BE SEEN IN THOSE TWEETS YOU LINKED.

HAVE A NICE WEEKEND  >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM 

REGARDS, KIMMO 

*END*


To community members:
I don't know what will be soon left from Sailfish and Jolla (Mer and 
Nemo will probably prevail, including Glacier UI as they are open 
source, I hope qwazix and locusf, which are a great guys will still work 
on that despite everything!), but I guess there are some other 
interesting projects like Neo900, Ubuntu Touch or Tizen.

To Finns:
I know it's disappointing as Jolla is a Finnish company and you probably 
had highest hopes from all of us. Unfortunately that's how life goes, 
let's move forward, you still have Nokia and there are many other 
interesting and promising startups in Finland.

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[SailfishDevel] Farewell to Jolla community!

2014-05-24 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
It was very nice experience to meet many of the people in this 
community, despite the whole harm that has happened to me from Thomas, 
Carsten and Jolla the company. I think there is nothing left and I need 
to leave, as I gave so many chances for Jolla to fix this serious issue 
and they completely blew it. The last days just confirmed my worst fears 
that Jolla is a moral bankrupt and is unable to deal properly with 
problems. I guess everyone that hasn't lost his common sense has noticed 
that.


Now despite I'm leaving the community, I will do all the steps to spread 
the information about what happened here and how I was harmed. I see it 
as a justice, the justice I deserve to defend my good name (I'm active 
for around 10 years in various communities. I am a memeber of Polish 
Linux Users Group, OpenStreetMap Poland, Hackerspace Silesia and last 
but not least, recently founded Polish Python User Group, so my 
involvement in those relies on the trust that people in all those 
communites has given me choosing on important functions at those 
associations. Also, leaving the community doesn't mean I'm leaving my 
friends from it, but I'm happy that I've figured out who my real friends 
are and what people only pretended to be my friends.


To Jolla:
My offer of mediation lost its sense. I'm no longer interested in having 
to deal with your company at any level.


To Jolla Investors:
I hope you are reading all of this and will know what to do if you care 
about the rest of your money that haven't been pumped yet to this 
corpo-startup.


To Jolla Partners - Tieto, F-Secure, Nokia/Here and others:
I also hope someone will point you to this material and you will think 
twice with who you are partnering. It might also affect your companies 
image, especially F-Secure whose business, I would say, highly depends 
on that.


To mass media:
Feel free to contact me if you would like to make an article or 
interview about the whole problem. Reading the Sailfish-devel mailing 
list mail by mail will help you to understand a lot. If the mailing 
list, which is now a good evidence, will be deleted as someone 
suggested, then there is still a lot of evidence at individuals mailboxes.


To community members:
I don't know what will be soon left from Sailfish and Jolla (Mer and 
Nemo will probably prevail, including Glacier UI as they are open 
source, I hope qwazix and locusf, which are a great guys will still work 
on that despite everything!), but I guess there are some other 
interesting projects like Neo900, Ubuntu Touch or Tizen.


To Finns:
I know it's disappointing as Jolla is a Finnish company and you probably 
had highest hopes from all of us. Unfortunately that's how life goes, 
let's move forward, you still have Nokia and there are many other 
interesting and promising startups in Finland.


To Jolla employees:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlBBLc6vno
Remember the motto of my blog?

Regards,
Filip

PS. Probably I'm going offline for a few days, need to relax and spend 
the rest of the weekend with my good friends and my family.
PS2. I won't post anything more here, but I will make a thread on TMO as 
some people suggested.

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