Re: [SailfishDevel] Python in Jolla Harbour and repositories ?
Hi, 2014-06-11 7:43 GMT+02:00 Roberto Colistete Jr. roberto.colist...@gmail.com: So I want to be maintainer for python-sympy and python3-sympy. I've contacted w00t about it. Talked with Robin about it. I guess first step would be to set up the packaging using tar_git and get familiar with how things are packaged in Nemo Mobile: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#With_tar_git_service Get an account for the Mer OBS: https://build.merproject.org/ Then set up a Git repository (e.g. on Github) with tar_git (tar_git is not used directly, it's a tool that is used when the OBS checks out your source code from Git and the builds it). This might take some time to grasp, but it will make maintaining the packaging easier down the road, and it will give you e.g. free RPM changelogs by writing good Git commit messages (with special format as described in the Wiki). SymPy is very stable for API use. For example, my softwares Limit, Derivative and Integral (for Maemo 4, Maemo 5 and Sailfish OS) are compatible with SymPy from 2011 to 2014. Sounds stable, yes. IPython (which you probably don't depend on in your app?) is less of a problem API stability-wise - it can just be available in the repositories to be installed from the command line. If possible I would like to be maintainer of IPython, NumPy and MatPlotLib on Mer/NemoMobile/Sailfish. The best way is probably to start with one of these, set up a source tree that's using tar_git, and then get the Mer OBS to build an RPM package from the Git source tree. After that, the next step would be to see where we put this in the Nemo Github organizations. HTH :) Thomas ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python in Jolla Harbour and repositories ?
Em 23-05-2014 05:25, Thomas Perl escreveu: The wiki Sailfish/Python Development : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Python_Development is updated, listing 14 Python applications released for Sailfish, available at OpenRepos.net. It would be nice to also have them on Jolla Harbour. I also would like to be maintainer of some of these Python packages (modules) : https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Arcolistete and include (mainly SymPy and IPython) in default Jolla repositories (nemo:devel:mw ?) : https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw What is the procedure ? Some months ago I was told by IRC : basically you ask w00t to create a repo for you in nemomobile github and then setup a webhook which builds it in mer OBS. Is it the same now ? Yes, that's still the same procedure. For packages where nemo is not upstream (e.g. SymPy and IPython), the Github organization to use is https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ Thanks, Thomas Perl. So I want to be maintainer for python-sympy and python3-sympy. I've contacted w00t about it. python3-sympy package (30 MB after installation) is used by Integral, Derivative (released today) and Limit, and can also be used by other future applications. IPython 2.0 package is obviously a must for any developer using Python on device. For SymPy, do you know if the API is stable or does it change (in incompatible ways) between releases? If you want to depend on it from your app in Harbour, it has to have a stable API, and we have to have a maintainer for the package (to get any security fixes and updates packaged). For small, pure-python libraries, just packaging it with the app is an option, but for big packages like SymPy (that probably has some C extension modules), the repository is probably the best way. SymPy is very stable for API use. For example, my softwares Limit, Derivative and Integral (for Maemo 4, Maemo 5 and Sailfish OS) are compatible with SymPy from 2011 to 2014. IPython (which you probably don't depend on in your app?) is less of a problem API stability-wise - it can just be available in the repositories to be installed from the command line. If possible I would like to be maintainer of IPython, NumPy and MatPlotLib on Mer/NemoMobile/Sailfish. But let me try SymPy at first. Best regards, Roberto ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python in Jolla Harbour and repositories ?
Hi, 2014-05-23 1:39 GMT+02:00 Roberto Colistete Jr. roberto.colist...@gmail.com: Will Python applications be accepted in Jolla Harbour with the new update 6 / 7 planned for June ? The Together.Jolla.com topic : https://together.jolla.com/question/6116/python-application-support-in-jolla-store-harbour/ doesn't give a date. The only thing blocking Python 3 for Harbour apps at the moment is that the store backend needs to have some things still implemented that allows apps that use APIs introduced in newer OS versions to be hidden from older OS versions (e.g. stable PyOtherSide was introduced in update 4, but right now, there's no way for the backend to hide PyOtherSide-using applications from devices running update 1-3, and the app would be uninstallable/broken on a device running update 1, 2 or 3, which would result in users observing uninstallable/broken apps in the store). This is actively being worked on. The wiki Sailfish/Python Development : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Python_Development is updated, listing 14 Python applications released for Sailfish, available at OpenRepos.net. It would be nice to also have them on Jolla Harbour. I also would like to be maintainer of some of these Python packages (modules) : https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Arcolistete and include (mainly SymPy and IPython) in default Jolla repositories (nemo:devel:mw ?) : https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw What is the procedure ? Some months ago I was told by IRC : basically you ask w00t to create a repo for you in nemomobile github and then setup a webhook which builds it in mer OBS. Is it the same now ? Yes, that's still the same procedure. For packages where nemo is not upstream (e.g. SymPy and IPython), the Github organization to use is https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ For packaging, we use tar_git, which is described here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#With_tar_git_service Basically, tar_git clones the Git repository, then changes the .spec file to the version that is the latest tag in Git, adds all [something] text parts from the Git commit messages to the RPM changelog and builds the whole thing in OBS. python3-sympy package (30 MB after installation) is used by Integral, Derivative (released today) and Limit, and can also be used by other future applications. IPython 2.0 package is obviously a must for any developer using Python on device. For SymPy, do you know if the API is stable or does it change (in incompatible ways) between releases? If you want to depend on it from your app in Harbour, it has to have a stable API, and we have to have a maintainer for the package (to get any security fixes and updates packaged). For small, pure-python libraries, just packaging it with the app is an option, but for big packages like SymPy (that probably has some C extension modules), the repository is probably the best way. IPython (which you probably don't depend on in your app?) is less of a problem API stability-wise - it can just be available in the repositories to be installed from the command line. HTH :) Thomas ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Python in Jolla Harbour and repositories ?
Hi, Will Python applications be accepted in Jolla Harbour with the new update 6 / 7 planned for June ? The Together.Jolla.com topic : https://together.jolla.com/question/6116/python-application-support-in-jolla-store-harbour/ doesn't give a date. The wiki Sailfish/Python Development : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Python_Development is updated, listing 14 Python applications released for Sailfish, available at OpenRepos.net. It would be nice to also have them on Jolla Harbour. I also would like to be maintainer of some of these Python packages (modules) : https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Arcolistete and include (mainly SymPy and IPython) in default Jolla repositories (nemo:devel:mw ?) : https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw What is the procedure ? Some months ago I was told by IRC : basically you ask w00t to create a repo for you in nemomobile github and then setup a webhook which builds it in mer OBS. Is it the same now ? python3-sympy package (30 MB after installation) is used by Integral, Derivative (released today) and Limit, and can also be used by other future applications. IPython 2.0 package is obviously a must for any developer using Python on device. Best regards, Roberto ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
