Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
Me recalls how Nokia's dev wiki was suddenly pushed ahead a great deal when Nokia started heaving competitions and giving prizes for things like best article of a month. You know, as a part of a developer program :) It will be good to have a wiki, eventually many good github examples could have a central navigation place. Artem. On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Nicolas Cisco nci...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, the main problem in developing for SailfishOS is the lack of documentation, it would be good to have a official site with tutorials, faqs, etc. But, as it was said mantaining all that documentation is something that requires many people, ie: resources and money. I think that when we all support Jolla by buying the device we all knew that developing for it would be something like hacking. Sometimes, it's a bit frustrating to spend much time finding out how the platform works, instead of developing the app we are tring to. But, we, as a community, manage to surpass that problem and build good apps. I personally didn't know the existance of the Sailfish section in the mer wiki [1], so i started to write a blog [2] about the solutions i found to the problems i encountered while developing for SailfishOS, i'll try to start transcribing that entries to the wiki. If we all make an effort of writing an article in the wiki for every (or at least some) of the solutions we find for the problems we come across while developing we would a good base non-official documentation and tutorials. Remember that the main purpose of a wiki is the collaborative knowledge, if each puts it's little help, we'll make somthing big =). Let's be honest, there is a unofficial jolla/sailfish facebook group (which is well maintained), there are also unofficial jolla/sailfish blogs (with frequent entries) and there is also an unofficial jolla/sailfish forum, why can't we also have a good unofficial jolla/sailfish wiki/documentation? =D [1] https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish [2] http://nckweb.com.ar/sailing-code 2015-02-06 9:48 GMT-03:00 Thomas B. Rücker tho...@ruecker.fi: On 02/06/2015 12:13 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote: You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its various sub-pages? I'm looking more for things like (just examples): - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application - Storing settings in my app - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way - etc... That's what it's for and some of what you say is there, but if nobody puts anything new there it won't be there. Or were you looking for groomed developer documentation that happens to be on a wiki, like Nokia had and Nokia employed an army of people larger than Jolla as a whole to maintain? But this is moot anyway, as it was just said that there maybe some day be a official wiki, so please go back to your holding pattern and wait patiently. TBR ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Nicolas Cisco www.nckweb.com.ar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
In my opinion, the main problem in developing for SailfishOS is the lack of documentation, it would be good to have a official site with tutorials, faqs, etc. But, as it was said mantaining all that documentation is something that requires many people, ie: resources and money. I think that when we all support Jolla by buying the device we all knew that developing for it would be something like hacking. Sometimes, it's a bit frustrating to spend much time finding out how the platform works, instead of developing the app we are tring to. But, we, as a community, manage to surpass that problem and build good apps. I personally didn't know the existance of the Sailfish section in the mer wiki [1], so i started to write a blog [2] about the solutions i found to the problems i encountered while developing for SailfishOS, i'll try to start transcribing that entries to the wiki. If we all make an effort of writing an article in the wiki for every (or at least some) of the solutions we find for the problems we come across while developing we would a good base non-official documentation and tutorials. Remember that the main purpose of a wiki is the collaborative knowledge, if each puts it's little help, we'll make somthing big =). Let's be honest, there is a unofficial jolla/sailfish facebook group (which is well maintained), there are also unofficial jolla/sailfish blogs (with frequent entries) and there is also an unofficial jolla/sailfish forum, why can't we also have a good unofficial jolla/sailfish wiki/documentation? =D [1] https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish [2] http://nckweb.com.ar/sailing-code 2015-02-06 9:48 GMT-03:00 Thomas B. Rücker tho...@ruecker.fi: On 02/06/2015 12:13 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote: You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its various sub-pages? I'm looking more for things like (just examples): - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application - Storing settings in my app - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way - etc... That's what it's for and some of what you say is there, but if nobody puts anything new there it won't be there. Or were you looking for groomed developer documentation that happens to be on a wiki, like Nokia had and Nokia employed an army of people larger than Jolla as a whole to maintain? But this is moot anyway, as it was just said that there maybe some day be a official wiki, so please go back to your holding pattern and wait patiently. TBR ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Nicolas Cisco www.nckweb.com.ar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
That would be very helpful :D 06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет: Is there a developer wiki available ? Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that articles could be created and shared ? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
Hi, We plan to deploy a sailfishos dedicated wiki in March timeframe so we can address the need for such documentation and consolidate some of the information that is currently scattered across mer/nemomobile wikis. This is aligned with the sailfishos.org site renewal, priority is given first to restoring the silica documentation and broaden the scope of the site to accomodate other audiences than developers only. Cheers, Eric On 06/02/2015 12:52, peter.pykalai...@gmail.com peter.pykalai...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Lack of docimentation and how tos are a real problem. Even bigger problem than having stupid restrictions on harbour apps. // Pete Andrey Kozhevnikov kirjoitti pe helmikuuta 6 12:20:48 2015 GMT+0200: That would be very helpful :D 06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет: Is there a developer wiki available ? Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that articles could be created and shared ? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- // Peter Pykäläinen Lähetetty Jollastani ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
Excellent, thank you! Also could you please already start working on icon references too? I have requested this over a year ago. // Pete On 6 February 2015 at 13:06, Eric Le Roux eric.ler...@jolla.com wrote: Hi, We plan to deploy a sailfishos dedicated wiki in March timeframe so we can address the need for such documentation and consolidate some of the information that is currently scattered across mer/nemomobile wikis. This is aligned with the sailfishos.org site renewal, priority is given first to restoring the silica documentation and broaden the scope of the site to accomodate other audiences than developers only. Cheers, Eric On 06/02/2015 12:52, peter.pykalai...@gmail.com peter.pykalai...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Lack of docimentation and how tos are a real problem. Even bigger problem than having stupid restrictions on harbour apps. // Pete Andrey Kozhevnikov kirjoitti pe helmikuuta 6 12:20:48 2015 GMT+0200: That would be very helpful :D 06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет: Is there a developer wiki available ? Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that articles could be created and shared ? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- // Peter Pykäläinen Lähetetty Jollastani ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
Indeed. Lack of docimentation and how tos are a real problem. Even bigger problem than having stupid restrictions on harbour apps. // Pete Andrey Kozhevnikov kirjoitti pe helmikuuta 6 12:20:48 2015 GMT+0200: That would be very helpful :D 06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет: Is there a developer wiki available ? Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that articles could be created and shared ? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.or -- // Peter Pykäläinen Lähetetty Jollastani ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote: You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its various sub-pages? I'm looking more for things like (just examples): - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application - Storing settings in my app - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way - etc... See the Nokia developer wiki for what I mean. -- Kaj-Michael Lang mil...@tal.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?
On 02/06/2015 12:13 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote: You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its various sub-pages? I'm looking more for things like (just examples): - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application - Storing settings in my app - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way - etc... That's what it's for and some of what you say is there, but if nobody puts anything new there it won't be there. Or were you looking for groomed developer documentation that happens to be on a wiki, like Nokia had and Nokia employed an army of people larger than Jolla as a whole to maintain? But this is moot anyway, as it was just said that there maybe some day be a official wiki, so please go back to your holding pattern and wait patiently. TBR ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org