Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-08 Thread Artem Marchenko
Me recalls how Nokia's dev wiki was suddenly pushed ahead a great deal when
Nokia started heaving competitions and giving prizes for things like best
article of a month. You know, as a part of a developer program :)

It will be good to have a wiki, eventually many good github examples could
have a central navigation place.

Artem.


On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Nicolas Cisco nci...@gmail.com wrote:

 In my opinion, the main problem in developing for SailfishOS is the lack
 of documentation, it would be good to have a official site with tutorials,
 faqs, etc. But, as it was said mantaining all that documentation is
 something that requires many people, ie: resources and money.

 I think that when we all support Jolla by buying the device we all knew
 that developing for it would be something like hacking. Sometimes, it's a
 bit frustrating to spend much time finding out how the platform works,
 instead of developing the app we are tring to. But, we, as a community,
 manage to surpass that problem and build good apps. I personally didn't
 know the existance of the Sailfish section in the mer wiki [1], so i
 started to write a blog [2] about the solutions i found to the problems i
 encountered while developing for SailfishOS, i'll try to start transcribing
 that entries to the wiki. If we all make an effort of writing an article in
 the wiki for every (or at least some) of the solutions we find for the
 problems we come across while developing we would a good base non-official
 documentation and tutorials. Remember that the main purpose of a wiki is
 the collaborative knowledge, if each puts it's little help, we'll make
 somthing big =).

 Let's be honest, there is a unofficial jolla/sailfish facebook group
 (which is well maintained), there are also unofficial jolla/sailfish blogs
 (with frequent entries) and there is also an unofficial jolla/sailfish
 forum, why can't we also have a good unofficial jolla/sailfish
 wiki/documentation? =D

 [1] https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish
 [2] http://nckweb.com.ar/sailing-code

 2015-02-06 9:48 GMT-03:00 Thomas B. Rücker tho...@ruecker.fi:

 On 02/06/2015 12:13 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote:
  On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote:
  You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its
  various
  sub-pages?
  I'm looking more for things like (just examples):
  - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app
  - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface
  - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game
  - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app
  - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application
  - Storing settings in my app
  - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way
  - etc...

 That's what it's for and some of what you say is there, but if nobody
 puts anything new there it won't be there. Or were you looking for
 groomed developer documentation that happens to be on a wiki, like
 Nokia had and Nokia employed an army of people larger than Jolla as a
 whole to maintain?

 But this is moot anyway, as it was just said that there maybe some day
 be a official wiki, so please go back to your holding pattern and wait
 patiently.

 TBR

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-07 Thread Nicolas Cisco
In my opinion, the main problem in developing for SailfishOS is the lack of
documentation, it would be good to have a official site with tutorials,
faqs, etc. But, as it was said mantaining all that documentation is
something that requires many people, ie: resources and money.

I think that when we all support Jolla by buying the device we all knew
that developing for it would be something like hacking. Sometimes, it's a
bit frustrating to spend much time finding out how the platform works,
instead of developing the app we are tring to. But, we, as a community,
manage to surpass that problem and build good apps. I personally didn't
know the existance of the Sailfish section in the mer wiki [1], so i
started to write a blog [2] about the solutions i found to the problems i
encountered while developing for SailfishOS, i'll try to start transcribing
that entries to the wiki. If we all make an effort of writing an article in
the wiki for every (or at least some) of the solutions we find for the
problems we come across while developing we would a good base non-official
documentation and tutorials. Remember that the main purpose of a wiki is
the collaborative knowledge, if each puts it's little help, we'll make
somthing big =).

Let's be honest, there is a unofficial jolla/sailfish facebook group (which
is well maintained), there are also unofficial jolla/sailfish blogs (with
frequent entries) and there is also an unofficial jolla/sailfish forum, why
can't we also have a good unofficial jolla/sailfish wiki/documentation? =D

[1] https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish
[2] http://nckweb.com.ar/sailing-code

2015-02-06 9:48 GMT-03:00 Thomas B. Rücker tho...@ruecker.fi:

 On 02/06/2015 12:13 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote:
  On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote:
  You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its
  various
  sub-pages?
  I'm looking more for things like (just examples):
  - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app
  - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface
  - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game
  - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app
  - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application
  - Storing settings in my app
  - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way
  - etc...

 That's what it's for and some of what you say is there, but if nobody
 puts anything new there it won't be there. Or were you looking for
 groomed developer documentation that happens to be on a wiki, like
 Nokia had and Nokia employed an army of people larger than Jolla as a
 whole to maintain?

 But this is moot anyway, as it was just said that there maybe some day
 be a official wiki, so please go back to your holding pattern and wait
 patiently.

 TBR

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-06 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov

That would be very helpful :D

06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет:

Is there a developer wiki available ?

Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that
articles could be created and shared ?




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-06 Thread Eric Le Roux
Hi,

We plan to deploy a sailfishos dedicated wiki in March timeframe so we can
address the need for such documentation and consolidate some of the
information that is currently scattered across mer/nemomobile wikis.
This is aligned with the sailfishos.org site renewal, priority is given
first to restoring the silica documentation and broaden the scope of the
site to accomodate other audiences than developers only.

Cheers,
Eric

On 06/02/2015 12:52, peter.pykalai...@gmail.com
peter.pykalai...@gmail.com wrote:

Indeed. Lack of docimentation and how tos are a real problem. Even bigger
problem than having stupid restrictions on harbour apps.

// Pete

Andrey Kozhevnikov kirjoitti pe helmikuuta 6 12:20:48 2015 GMT+0200:
 That would be very helpful :D
 
 06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет:
  Is there a developer wiki available ?
 
  Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that
  articles could be created and shared ?
 
 
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-06 Thread Peter Pykäläinen
Excellent, thank you!

Also could you please already start working on icon references too?
I have requested this over a year ago.


// Pete

On 6 February 2015 at 13:06, Eric Le Roux eric.ler...@jolla.com wrote:

 Hi,

 We plan to deploy a sailfishos dedicated wiki in March timeframe so we can
 address the need for such documentation and consolidate some of the
 information that is currently scattered across mer/nemomobile wikis.
 This is aligned with the sailfishos.org site renewal, priority is given
 first to restoring the silica documentation and broaden the scope of the
 site to accomodate other audiences than developers only.

 Cheers,
 Eric

 On 06/02/2015 12:52, peter.pykalai...@gmail.com
 peter.pykalai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Indeed. Lack of docimentation and how tos are a real problem. Even bigger
 problem than having stupid restrictions on harbour apps.
 
 // Pete
 
 Andrey Kozhevnikov kirjoitti pe helmikuuta 6 12:20:48 2015 GMT+0200:
  That would be very helpful :D
 
  06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет:
   Is there a developer wiki available ?
  
   Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that
   articles could be created and shared ?
  
  
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-06 Thread peter . pykalainen
Indeed. Lack of docimentation and how tos are a real problem. Even bigger 
problem than having stupid restrictions on harbour apps.

// Pete

Andrey Kozhevnikov kirjoitti pe helmikuuta 6 12:20:48 2015 GMT+0200:
 That would be very helpful :D
 
 06.02.2015 15:14, Kaj-Michael Lang пишет:
  Is there a developer wiki available ?
 
  Something like the Nokia developer wiki, where various how-to-do-that
  articles could be created and shared ?
 
 
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-06 Thread Kaj-Michael Lang
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote:
 You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its
 various
 sub-pages? 

I'm looking more for things like (just examples):
- How to use the camera in a Sailfish app
- How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface
- How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game
- How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app
- How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application
- Storing settings in my app
- Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way
- etc...

See the Nokia developer wiki for what I mean.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Developer wiki?

2015-02-06 Thread Thomas B. Rücker
On 02/06/2015 12:13 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote:
 On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 10:32 +, Thomas B. Rücker wrote:
 You mean like https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish and its
 various
 sub-pages? 
 I'm looking more for things like (just examples):
 - How to use the camera in a Sailfish app
 - How do I create this-and-that kind of UI interface
 - How do I use a Wii/PS3 controller in my Sailfish game
 - How can I send e-mail from my application using the e-mail app
 - How do I implement a social sharing feature into my application
 - Storing settings in my app
 - Getting GPS information in a harbour approved way
 - etc...

That's what it's for and some of what you say is there, but if nobody
puts anything new there it won't be there. Or were you looking for
groomed developer documentation that happens to be on a wiki, like
Nokia had and Nokia employed an army of people larger than Jolla as a
whole to maintain?

But this is moot anyway, as it was just said that there maybe some day
be a official wiki, so please go back to your holding pattern and wait
patiently.

TBR

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