Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Nir Soffer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Sandro Bonazzola > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > >> > >> Probably fails because of: > >> git describe > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > > > > > > Yes. I think autogen.sh and configure.ac shouldn't rely on git for > package > > versioning. > > The automation/build-artifacs.sh script can take care of adding suffixes > to > > rpm release if needed at build time. > > Version should be statically defined within configure.ac. > > Yaniv is using a git clone, so depending on git is fine in this case. > > The tarball should not have any dependencies on git. > > I think the issue is missing tags - this works: > > git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm > git tag v4.17.999 > How do I know which tag to use? Y. > ./autogen.sh --system > > Nir > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > >>> > >>> Cloning VDSM with the following command: > >>> git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm > >>> > >>> Which works, but then I can't run ./autogen.sh succesfully: > >>> mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github/vdsmshallow$ ./autogen.sh |less > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >>> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish > >>> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command > line. > >>> configure: error: package version not defined > >>> > >>> As the difference is 1:10 in data size and I only wish to work on the > >>> tip, this could be very useful to me. > >>> Any ideas? > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Devel mailing list > >> Devel@ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sandro Bonazzola > > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. > > See how it works at redhat.com > > > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: >> >> Probably fails because of: >> git describe >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > > > Yes. I think autogen.sh and configure.ac shouldn't rely on git for package > versioning. > The automation/build-artifacs.sh script can take care of adding suffixes to > rpm release if needed at build time. > Version should be statically defined within configure.ac. Yaniv is using a git clone, so depending on git is fine in this case. The tarball should not have any dependencies on git. I think the issue is missing tags - this works: git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm git tag v4.17.999 ./autogen.sh --system Nir > > >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: >>> >>> Cloning VDSM with the following command: >>> git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm >>> >>> Which works, but then I can't run ./autogen.sh succesfully: >>> mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github/vdsmshallow$ ./autogen.sh |less >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >>> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish >>> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. >>> configure: error: package version not defined >>> >>> As the difference is 1:10 in data size and I only wish to work on the >>> tip, this could be very useful to me. >>> Any ideas? >> >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > > > -- > Sandro Bonazzola > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. > See how it works at redhat.com > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > Probably fails because of: > git describe > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > Yes. I think autogen.sh and configure.ac shouldn't rely on git for package versioning. The automation/build-artifacs.sh script can take care of adding suffixes to rpm release if needed at build time. Version should be statically defined within configure.ac. > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > >> Cloning VDSM with the following command: >> git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm >> >> Which works, but then I can't run ./autogen.sh succesfully: >> mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github/vdsmshallow$ ./autogen.sh |less >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish >> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. >> configure: error: package version not defined >> >> As the difference is 1:10 in data size and I only wish to work on the >> tip, this could be very useful to me. >> Any ideas? >> > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Nir Soffer wrote: > Trying new clone: > > $ time git clone https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm.git > Cloning into 'vdsm'... > remote: Counting objects: 47555, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (155/155), done. > remote: Total 47555 (delta 76), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 47400 > Receiving objects: 100% (47555/47555), 27.16 MiB | 435.00 KiB/s, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (35297/35297), done. > Checking connectivity... done. > > real 0m43.045s > user 0m3.650s > sys 0m0.555s > > Are you sure you need to do a shallow clone? > It might be that the cloud provider of oVirt's gerrit is throttling connections from the office, but the data size is ratio is huge: mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github$ time git clone -b master --depth 1 https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm.git Cloning into 'vdsm'... remote: Counting objects: 924, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (849/849), done. remote: Total 924 (delta 181), reused 308 (delta 50), pack-reused 0 Receiving objects: 100% (924/924), *1.37 MiB* | 2.39 MiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (181/181), done. Checking connectivity... done. real 0m2.059s user 0m0.095s sys 0m0.052s mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github$ time git clone -b master https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm.git vdsm-full Cloning into 'vdsm-full'... remote: Counting objects: 47555, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (155/155), done. remote: Total 47555 (delta 76), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 47400 Receiving objects: 100% (47555/47555), *27.16 MiB* | 8.61 MiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (35297/35297), done. Checking connectivity... done. real 0m4.795s user 0m2.006s sys 0m0.184s So while I got much nicer speeds now on the non-shallow, I assume the shallow should beat it always. In any case, perhaps I should clone from Github... Y. > Nir > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > > Probably fails because of: > > git describe > > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > >> > >> Cloning VDSM with the following command: > >> git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm > >> > >> Which works, but then I can't run ./autogen.sh succesfully: > >> mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github/vdsmshallow$ ./autogen.sh |less > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > >> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish > >> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. > >> configure: error: package version not defined > >> > >> As the difference is 1:10 in data size and I only wish to work on the > tip, > >> this could be very useful to me. > >> Any ideas? > > > > > > > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@ovirt.org > > http:/
Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
Trying new clone: $ time git clone https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm.git Cloning into 'vdsm'... remote: Counting objects: 47555, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (155/155), done. remote: Total 47555 (delta 76), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 47400 Receiving objects: 100% (47555/47555), 27.16 MiB | 435.00 KiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (35297/35297), done. Checking connectivity... done. real 0m43.045s user 0m3.650s sys 0m0.555s Are you sure you need to do a shallow clone? Nir On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > Probably fails because of: > git describe > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: >> >> Cloning VDSM with the following command: >> git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm >> >> Which works, but then I can't run ./autogen.sh succesfully: >> mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github/vdsmshallow$ ./autogen.sh |less >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. >> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish >> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. >> configure: error: package version not defined >> >> As the difference is 1:10 in data size and I only wish to work on the tip, >> this could be very useful to me. >> Any ideas? > > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
Probably fails because of: git describe fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > Cloning VDSM with the following command: > git clone -b master --depth 1 git://gerrit.ovirt.org/vdsm > > Which works, but then I can't run ./autogen.sh succesfully: > mini@ykaul-mini:/tmp/github/vdsmshallow$ ./autogen.sh |less > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish > to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. > configure: error: package version not defined > > As the difference is 1:10 in data size and I only wish to work on the tip, > this could be very useful to me. > Any ideas? > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[ovirt-devel] VDSM fails 'autogen.sh' when shallow cloning - is that expected?
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