Re: Question regarding an open project and documentation enhancement

2021-03-23 Thread Ayushman Mishra
I have send patches regarding addition of FAQ page in user/quick-start
section of docs . Here I had to make extra links in 7.5
autoconf-migrations ,1.2 features,3.1 project support and corrected
the link in https://docs.rtems.org/branches/master/user/bld/index.html#commands
. In 2nd patch I moved questions of
https://docs.rtems.org/branches/master/user/support/contrib.html#common-questions-and-answers
from 3.3 Contributing section to FAQ page.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:46 PM Gedare Bloom  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:08 AM Ayushman Mishra
>  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the delay (actually I was little busy due to my semester
> > examination) and extremely sorry for my previous behaviour
> >
> > I have created a frequently asked questions (FAQ) page under
> > quick-start section in user guide according to the ticket
> > https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3958 . I have attached an image of how
> > the page looks after build up, and will send a patch for it as soon as
> > possible ( currently some links are not working correctly) . Most of
> > the questions are from https://devel.rtems.org/wiki/TBR/Website/FAQ
> > but I am also writing a few questions of my own (like about .waf and
> > autoconf build up)
> >
> Great. Maybe, start with the patch to add the new FAQ section to the
> docs, and a second patch to migrate the contents from the Trac, and
> then a third patch to add some more questions.
>
> > Also I wanted to take https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/4334 (Replace
> > Mongoose with Civitweb) as a GSOC project as I have huge interest in
> > networking related projects but lack experience in it. I would be very
> > grateful to know more about this project.
> >
> This is a good project also. Note there is a typo in the ticket title,
> the project is called Civetweb; I fixed the ticket typos. For this
> project, during the proposal preparation phase you should get RTEMS
> working with a networking stack and able to run the existing mongoose
> webserver (mghttpd) would be a very good start. I would suggest you
> start a new thread to discuss this project, and to ask for more
> guidance there.
>
> Gedare
>
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 10:28 PM Gedare Bloom  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:11 AM Joel Sherrill  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:08 AM Ayushman Mishra 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Hello everyone, I went through open ticket "Code Formatting and
> > > >> Style Check for RTEMS score"  (https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3860) as
> > > >> a possible GSOC project and discussion thread on it
> > > >> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057246.html,
> > > >> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057057.html .
> > > >> But most of the threads on this project are almost a year old , I
> > > >> wanted to know has there been any recent development on this project
> > > >> and is there any specific tool developed/under-development for it. I
> > > >> would be grateful to connect with mentor of this project in-order to
> > > >> know more about the complexity involved and resources available for
> > > >> it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As Sebastian said, it hasn't had any recent work but still needs 
> > > > attention.
> > > > I think we have a first candidate style description and tool but it has 
> > > > not
> > > > been checked against the code to see what differences exist between the
> > > > RTEMS style and the generated style. These differences could be because
> > > > the formatting specification to the tool needs tweaking, the input 
> > > > RTEMS code
> > > > didn't follow the rules before, or we could need to consider changing 
> > > > our style
> > > > rules.
> > > >
> > > > The score/src directory is thought to be the one of the ones which would
> > > > follow the RTEMS style most consistently. Focusing there should help
> > > > establish a baseline style, scripts, and change recommendations.
> > > >
> > > > Style adherence also has to be accounted for as part of the patch review
> > > > and git commit process. Hopefully it can be automated.
> > > >
> > > > Taking a broad view of this could be a good GSoC project. At least I
> > > > think there is enough programming in it to count as one.
> > > >
> > > Yes, this can be a GSoC project.
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. Also I checked the issue #3958 https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3958
> > > >> , fixed some of the broken links of FAQ page but few of the answers I
> > > >> got were from sites other than user guide. I would like to create a
> > > >> separate FAQ page in user-guide having some of answers available there
> > > >> only and some available as links.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a general rule, a lot of what is in the Wiki should be in regular 
> > > > documentation
> > > > at docs.rtems.org. A lot has been converted, some in the wiki is 
> > > > already in the
> > > > documentation but has not been checked for consistency in the 
> > > > conversion.
> > > >
> > > > 

Re: Question regarding an open project and documentation enhancement

2021-03-18 Thread Gedare Bloom
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:08 AM Ayushman Mishra
 wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay (actually I was little busy due to my semester
> examination) and extremely sorry for my previous behaviour
>
> I have created a frequently asked questions (FAQ) page under
> quick-start section in user guide according to the ticket
> https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3958 . I have attached an image of how
> the page looks after build up, and will send a patch for it as soon as
> possible ( currently some links are not working correctly) . Most of
> the questions are from https://devel.rtems.org/wiki/TBR/Website/FAQ
> but I am also writing a few questions of my own (like about .waf and
> autoconf build up)
>
Great. Maybe, start with the patch to add the new FAQ section to the
docs, and a second patch to migrate the contents from the Trac, and
then a third patch to add some more questions.

> Also I wanted to take https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/4334 (Replace
> Mongoose with Civitweb) as a GSOC project as I have huge interest in
> networking related projects but lack experience in it. I would be very
> grateful to know more about this project.
>
This is a good project also. Note there is a typo in the ticket title,
the project is called Civetweb; I fixed the ticket typos. For this
project, during the proposal preparation phase you should get RTEMS
working with a networking stack and able to run the existing mongoose
webserver (mghttpd) would be a very good start. I would suggest you
start a new thread to discuss this project, and to ask for more
guidance there.

Gedare

>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 10:28 PM Gedare Bloom  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:11 AM Joel Sherrill  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:08 AM Ayushman Mishra  
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Hello everyone, I went through open ticket "Code Formatting and
> > >> Style Check for RTEMS score"  (https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3860) as
> > >> a possible GSOC project and discussion thread on it
> > >> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057246.html,
> > >> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057057.html .
> > >> But most of the threads on this project are almost a year old , I
> > >> wanted to know has there been any recent development on this project
> > >> and is there any specific tool developed/under-development for it. I
> > >> would be grateful to connect with mentor of this project in-order to
> > >> know more about the complexity involved and resources available for
> > >> it.
> > >
> > >
> > > As Sebastian said, it hasn't had any recent work but still needs 
> > > attention.
> > > I think we have a first candidate style description and tool but it has 
> > > not
> > > been checked against the code to see what differences exist between the
> > > RTEMS style and the generated style. These differences could be because
> > > the formatting specification to the tool needs tweaking, the input RTEMS 
> > > code
> > > didn't follow the rules before, or we could need to consider changing our 
> > > style
> > > rules.
> > >
> > > The score/src directory is thought to be the one of the ones which would
> > > follow the RTEMS style most consistently. Focusing there should help
> > > establish a baseline style, scripts, and change recommendations.
> > >
> > > Style adherence also has to be accounted for as part of the patch review
> > > and git commit process. Hopefully it can be automated.
> > >
> > > Taking a broad view of this could be a good GSoC project. At least I
> > > think there is enough programming in it to count as one.
> > >
> > Yes, this can be a GSoC project.
> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2. Also I checked the issue #3958 https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3958
> > >> , fixed some of the broken links of FAQ page but few of the answers I
> > >> got were from sites other than user guide. I would like to create a
> > >> separate FAQ page in user-guide having some of answers available there
> > >> only and some available as links.
> > >
> > >
> > > As a general rule, a lot of what is in the Wiki should be in regular 
> > > documentation
> > > at docs.rtems.org. A lot has been converted, some in the wiki is already 
> > > in the
> > > documentation but has not been checked for consistency in the conversion.
> > >
> > > This is not a GSoC task by the program rules but if you have spotted 
> > > something
> > > that is in both, we would like to resolve it. File a ticket saying wiki 
> > > page X and
> > > documentation section Y are the same and that you double checked it. Then
> > > someone with permissions can delete the page. This really is appreciated. 
> > > I
> > > have done a LOT of pages but there are more to go.
> > >
> > > For example, I think almost all of the patch process and git instructions 
> > > have
> > > been added to the docs but are still in the Wiki. There may be a section 
> > > that
> > > remains to be converted but it needs review, missing content added to the 
> > > docs,
> > > and 

Re: Question regarding an open project and documentation enhancement

2021-03-02 Thread Gedare Bloom
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:11 AM Joel Sherrill  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:08 AM Ayushman Mishra  
> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Hello everyone, I went through open ticket "Code Formatting and
>> Style Check for RTEMS score"  (https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3860) as
>> a possible GSOC project and discussion thread on it
>> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057246.html,
>> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057057.html .
>> But most of the threads on this project are almost a year old , I
>> wanted to know has there been any recent development on this project
>> and is there any specific tool developed/under-development for it. I
>> would be grateful to connect with mentor of this project in-order to
>> know more about the complexity involved and resources available for
>> it.
>
>
> As Sebastian said, it hasn't had any recent work but still needs attention.
> I think we have a first candidate style description and tool but it has not
> been checked against the code to see what differences exist between the
> RTEMS style and the generated style. These differences could be because
> the formatting specification to the tool needs tweaking, the input RTEMS code
> didn't follow the rules before, or we could need to consider changing our 
> style
> rules.
>
> The score/src directory is thought to be the one of the ones which would
> follow the RTEMS style most consistently. Focusing there should help
> establish a baseline style, scripts, and change recommendations.
>
> Style adherence also has to be accounted for as part of the patch review
> and git commit process. Hopefully it can be automated.
>
> Taking a broad view of this could be a good GSoC project. At least I
> think there is enough programming in it to count as one.
>
Yes, this can be a GSoC project.

>>
>>
>> 2. Also I checked the issue #3958 https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3958
>> , fixed some of the broken links of FAQ page but few of the answers I
>> got were from sites other than user guide. I would like to create a
>> separate FAQ page in user-guide having some of answers available there
>> only and some available as links.
>
>
> As a general rule, a lot of what is in the Wiki should be in regular 
> documentation
> at docs.rtems.org. A lot has been converted, some in the wiki is already in 
> the
> documentation but has not been checked for consistency in the conversion.
>
> This is not a GSoC task by the program rules but if you have spotted something
> that is in both, we would like to resolve it. File a ticket saying wiki page 
> X and
> documentation section Y are the same and that you double checked it. Then
> someone with permissions can delete the page. This really is appreciated. I
> have done a LOT of pages but there are more to go.
>
> For example, I think almost all of the patch process and git instructions have
> been added to the docs but are still in the Wiki. There may be a section that
> remains to be converted but it needs review, missing content added to the 
> docs,
> and then deletion. Deletion involves updating links. Tedious but important.
>
+1

And if you want to create a FAQ in the User Guide, that would be fine,
you can learn how to build the docs and submit patches. As Joel said,
that kind of work is not allowed under GSoC but it is good for your
knowledge and technical development.

> --joel
>
>>
>>
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Re: Question regarding an open project and documentation enhancement

2021-03-02 Thread Joel Sherrill
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:08 AM Ayushman Mishra 
wrote:

> 1. Hello everyone, I went through open ticket "Code Formatting and
> Style Check for RTEMS score"  (https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3860) as
> a possible GSOC project and discussion thread on it
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057246.html,
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057057.html .
> But most of the threads on this project are almost a year old , I
> wanted to know has there been any recent development on this project
> and is there any specific tool developed/under-development for it. I
> would be grateful to connect with mentor of this project in-order to
> know more about the complexity involved and resources available for
> it.
>

As Sebastian said, it hasn't had any recent work but still needs attention.
I think we have a first candidate style description and tool but it has not
been checked against the code to see what differences exist between the
RTEMS style and the generated style. These differences could be because
the formatting specification to the tool needs tweaking, the input RTEMS
code
didn't follow the rules before, or we could need to consider changing our
style
rules.

The score/src directory is thought to be the one of the ones which would
follow the RTEMS style most consistently. Focusing there should help
establish a baseline style, scripts, and change recommendations.

Style adherence also has to be accounted for as part of the patch review
and git commit process. Hopefully it can be automated.

Taking a broad view of this could be a good GSoC project. At least I
think there is enough programming in it to count as one.


>
> 2. Also I checked the issue #3958 https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3958
> , fixed some of the broken links of FAQ page but few of the answers I
> got were from sites other than user guide. I would like to create a
> separate FAQ page in user-guide having some of answers available there
> only and some available as links.
>

As a general rule, a lot of what is in the Wiki should be in regular
documentation
at docs.rtems.org. A lot has been converted, some in the wiki is already in
the
documentation but has not been checked for consistency in the conversion.

This is not a GSoC task by the program rules but if you have spotted
something
that is in both, we would like to resolve it. File a ticket saying wiki
page X and
documentation section Y are the same and that you double checked it. Then
someone with permissions can delete the page. This really is appreciated. I
have done a LOT of pages but there are more to go.

For example, I think almost all of the patch process and git instructions
have
been added to the docs but are still in the Wiki. There may be a section
that
remains to be converted but it needs review, missing content added to the
docs,
and then deletion. Deletion involves updating links. Tedious but important.

--joel


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Re: Question regarding an open project and documentation enhancement

2021-03-02 Thread Sebastian Huber

On 02/03/2021 16:08, Ayushman Mishra wrote:


1. Hello everyone, I went through open ticket "Code Formatting and
Style Check for RTEMS score"  (https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3860) as
a possible GSOC project and discussion thread on it
https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057246.html,
https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-February/057057.html  .
But most of the threads on this project are almost a year old , I
wanted to know has there been any recent development on this project
and is there any specific tool developed/under-development for it. I
would be grateful to connect with mentor of this project in-order to
know more about the complexity involved and resources available for
it.

It stopped working on this since it consumed to much of my time.

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