Conversion of README's to DocBook Format

2003-11-21 Thread John Himpel
Greetings,

I have been laboring in the background for about 18 months converting
the README files from linuxdoc format to DocBook format.  I believe I
have nearly completed that effort.  My efforts are currently stored in a
separate cvs instance at XFree86.Org.

During that time, some bit-rot of the documentation has occurred, but it
should be a very small task to bring the DocBook versions to currency.

It is time to begin submitting the infrastructure necessary to support
the conversion (tools, DTD, stylesheets, etc) to XFree86 for inclusion
into the main cvs instance.

Since this involves over 1800 files, submitting them via Bugzilla or
mailing lists as individual files is quite impractical (I have a gift
for seeing the obvious) :-]

I would like group the files into logical components and submit them as
tar files. David Dawes and I have exchanged emails on the doc list and
have come to an agreement as to placement of the logical groups in cvs.
To whom or to where should I submit the tar files?

After the infrastructure is completely in place, I will begin submitting
the converted README files.

Since there will be some stylistic changes in the output, I plan to
start by submitting the converted XFree86 4.4 Release Notes, the New
Design document, and the README.ati document.  I chose these because
they represent different styles of documents and will present good
examples for discussion of any requested changes to style.

Questions and comments are encouraged.

John

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Re: Conversion of README's to DocBook Format

2003-11-21 Thread Georgina Economou
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:33:49 -0600, John Himpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greetings,

I have been laboring in the background for about 18 months converting
the README files from linuxdoc format to DocBook format.  I believe I
have nearly completed that effort.  My efforts are currently stored in a
separate cvs instance at XFree86.Org.
Yes that's xml-work, right?  Couldn't we just move it over to the public 
CVS?


Since this involves over 1800 files, submitting them via Bugzilla or
mailing lists as individual files is quite impractical (I have a gift
for seeing the obvious) :-]
I would like group the files into logical components and submit them as
tar files. David Dawes and I have exchanged emails on the doc list and
have come to an agreement as to placement of the logical groups in cvs.
To whom or to where should I submit the tar files?
Couldn't you just send them here?  I think that would work.

Questions and comments are encouraged.
Do you have any documentation on how to read this docbook stuff?
Are special utiliites required?  How do they become HTML for Web browsing
or is that a separate issue?
I'm glad to hear that the Doc Team Leader finally finished his
magnus opus.  Could a sample page be sent here so we could start discussing
it and seeing what this is all about?
Best Regards,

Georgina

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Re: Conversion of README's to DocBook Format

2003-11-21 Thread Kurt J. Lidl
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:31:42PM -0500, Georgina Economou wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:33:49 -0600, John Himpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Questions and comments are encouraged.
 
 Do you have any documentation on how to read this docbook stuff?

While not directed at me, I do have some experience in converting a
large scale documentation project to docbook.  I'm glad this is
being done -- DocBook is, IMHO, the best of the currently available
markup formats for large amounts of information.  It can render the
input documents into a variety of formats...

 Are special utiliites required?

For viewing and editting the docbook source files, all you need are
a text editor, like vi (or emacs).  There are certainly tools available
that make doing the markup more automatic, but it certainly can be done
in something as simple as a text editor.

 How do they become HTML for Web browsing
 or is that a separate issue?

Typically, this is done with either something like XSLT (I think that's
the right one -- I've not used this one), or something like a pipeline
with OpenJade, and a bunch of other tools.  When I did it last,
it was involved to get the entire documentation tool-chain up and
running, but once that was done, rendering the same document source
into HTML, PDF and PostScript was just a matter of typing make.

In many ways, if you're good at doing HTML, you're going to have no
problems with doing DocBook markup.  Some of the shortcuts that people
often take in HTML (and most browsers are happy enough to display)
don't work in SGML.

-Kurt
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