Fedora 18 Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, January 03 @ 17:00 UTC (12pm Eastern, 9am Pacific)

2013-01-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important
meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 18.

Thursday, January 03, 2013 @17:00 UTC (12:00 EST/09:00 PST/18:00 CET)

"Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet
to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release.
This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting."

"Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of
the QA Team."

For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 18 Final Blocker list:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/18/final/buglist

Reminder: Fedora 18 Final readiness meeting follows the Go/No-Go meeting
two hours later (19:00 UTC, 2pm Eastern, 11am Pacific), even it's agreed
on No-Go.

There's also Fedora 18 Final Blocker Bug Review #8 meeting planned for
January 02, 2013 17:00 UTC - if you have an accepted unresolved blocker
bug, or proposed blocker bug assigned to you, please join the meeting
to help us determine it's status.

Jaroslav
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Proposed F19 Feature: Pillow - Replace PIL (python-imaging) with Pillow, an actively maintained fork

2013-01-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
As decided by FESCo on 2012-12-05 meeting, all proposed Features are required 
to pass through the community review by announcing them on devel-announce list. 
FESCo votes on new features no sooner than a week from the announcement.

= Features/Pillow =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Pillow

* Detailed description:
The PIL project has been rather inactive lately (last release in 2009), and one 
big issue is the missing python 3 compatibility. There seems to be some general 
agreement that Pillow [1] is a likely candidate to succeed PIL, and in 
particular
to bring python 3 support, see the discussion at [2]. Pillow describes itself as

"Pillow is the "friendly" PIL fork. PIL is the Python Imaging Library. Pillow 
was
started for and is currently maintained by the Plone community. But it is used 
by
many other folks in the Python web community, and probably elsewhere too."
 
The fork author's goal is to foster packaging improvements via:
 
- Publicized development and solicitation of community support.
- Exploration of packaging problems within the fork, most noticably
  via adding setuptools support but also via clean up & refactoring
  of packaging code. 

Pillow is practically a drop-in replacement for PIL, except one small issue 
(see below).

For Python 3, there is a fork which offers Py3 compatibility here [3]. The 
patches are 
planed for review and merge into Pillow, see [4].

[1] https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow/
[2] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/image-sig/2012-October/007059.html
[3] https://github.com/fluggo/Pillow
[4] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/image-sig/2012-December/007120.html 

Pillow Feature is already being discussed on fedora-devel list,
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/175621.html

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Btw. If you have any concerns about the announcements (format, frequency, ml 
etc.),
please let me know.

Jaroslav
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Proposed F19 Feature: 3D Printing - Bring 3D printing tools to Fedora

2013-01-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
As decided by FESCo on 2012-12-05 meeting, all proposed Features are required
to pass through the community review by announcing them on devel-announce list.
FESCo votes on new features no sooner than a week from the announcement.

= Features/3D Printing =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/3D_Printing

* Detailed description:
There are several software needs for a 3D printer users: 3D modeling tool,
such as OpenSCAD or Blender; slcing tool, to "compile" the 3D model to a set of
G-Code instructions, such as Skeinforge or Slic3r; and finally a printer control
software, such as Printrun, Cura or RepetierHost.

Other useful application is meshlab, that allows users to view STL files, but 
it 
is already in Fedora, so it is not mentioned more.

3D Printing Feature is already being discussed on fedora-devel list,
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/175711.html

Jaroslav
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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: 3D Printing - Bring 3D printing tools to Fedora

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Duncan
I've spoken with the author of Skeinforge (
http://fabmetheus.crsndoo.com/wiki/index.php/Skeinforge) about getting it
set up and included into Fedora. It wouldn't be a large effort, I just
haven't had the time to date.




On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik  wrote:

> As decided by FESCo on 2012-12-05 meeting, all proposed Features are
> required
> to pass through the community review by announcing them on devel-announce
> list.
> FESCo votes on new features no sooner than a week from the announcement.
>
> = Features/3D Printing =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/3D_Printing
>
> * Detailed description:
> There are several software needs for a 3D printer users: 3D modeling tool,
> such as OpenSCAD or Blender; slcing tool, to "compile" the 3D model to a
> set of
> G-Code instructions, such as Skeinforge or Slic3r; and finally a printer
> control
> software, such as Printrun, Cura or RepetierHost.
>
> Other useful application is meshlab, that allows users to view STL files,
> but it
> is already in Fedora, so it is not mentioned more.
>
> 3D Printing Feature is already being discussed on fedora-devel list,
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/175711.html
>
> Jaroslav
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-- 
Thanks,

Jamie Duncan
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Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
As decided by FESCo on 2012-12-05 meeting, all proposed Features are required
to pass through the community review by announcing them on devel-announce list.
FESCo votes on new features no sooner than a week from the announcement.

= Features/DualstackNetworking =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DualstackNetworking

* Detailed description
Fedora supports dualstack global networking. That means the computer with
Fedora is connected to internet using both IPv4 and IPv6 protocols. But many 
important system services and applications either don't do IPv6, do it 
incorrectly, or don't cope with various network conditions.

Unfortunately, while trying to improve IPv6 support, some IPv4 use cases became 
broken as well. That's why the goal of this feature is not only to support IPv4,
but to support all possible real-world cases.

Dualstack-ready software must cope with all possible scenarios including 
IPv4-only connectivity, IPv6-only connectivity and dual connectivity. 
The software must also cope with node-local (aka localhost) networking, which 
as been used by software for decades.

Though it would be nice to have all applications in Fedora fixed to work in 
any of the scenarios, it is not feasible to test that. Therefore this feature
is about major software used in servers, desktops and laptops. The list of such
applications will be completed over the time.

Bugs related to dualstack networking should be added to the following tracker 
bug:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883152

Also see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=ipv6blocker 
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