Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

[evilruff]

I never had a point to escalate it, neither any reasons to be rude or hard 
talk, but i really want to have an answers to following:- Do you consider all 
Russians/Belaraus people somehow worse to access the same open source resources 
then other people in the world?- If so, how would you explain those actions- If 
you exclude certain nations based on nationality/geographic locations/political 
preferences can you please loud and clear announce a full list of the people 
you would like to exclude and the reasons to do soBest regards,YuriОтправлено с 
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 Исходное сообщение От: Elvis Stansvik  
Дата: 05.03.2022  3:36 ПП  (GMT+03:00) Кому: Tuukka Turunen 
 Копия: development@qt-project.org Тема: Re: 
[Development] Maintainance Tool You answered two out of the five questions 
Konrad had. Can you answerthe remaining ones?Cheers,ElvisDen lör 5 mars 2022 kl 
11:08 skrev Tuukka Turunen :>> Hi Konrad et al, Like 
already mentioned Qt Project systems, code.qt.io repositories, github mirror 
etc are not blocked. Online installer for open-source users is blocked from 
Russia and Belarus based IP addresses. Plan is to block also download.qt.io and 
possibly some of the qt.io websites. These are done based on IP address. 
Blocking the installer and access to binaries affects a much larger number of 
users than those who are active in the community. It impacts also many who 
create closed source products using the open-source Qt. Yours,  
   Tuukka From: Development  on 
behalf of Konrad Rosenbaum > Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 
23.25> To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: 
Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool>> Hi Tuukka,>> I believe an official 
statement from the Qt Company is in order - right now people are forced to find 
out the hard way whether they are blocked and how far the block goes. It is 
impossible to tell whether it is on purpose or not and what the purpose would 
be.>> It does not matter what side people are on, they deserve to know what's 
happening to them.>> It's also easier to accept and support this, if we know 
what "this" is. Please state very clearly:>> Who is being blocked? 
(Location, commercial customers, open source users, developers, ...?)>> Why are 
they blocked and for how long? (We might even agree with your reasoning.)>> 
What services are supposed to be blocked and which ones are not supposed to be 
blocked? (Commercial vs. Open Source, Binary vs. Source Downloads, Users vs. 
Contributors, ...)>> Where to report bugs in this block? (e.g. is Konstantin 
really supposed to be blocked from contributing?)>> And what discussions will 
be redirected to /dev/null? Right now we live in a situation that we all 
had hoped would not occur again in Europe. We had hoped that the hard learned 
lessons of our grand parents would prevent this from happening. Let's at least 
try to be a voice of reason in this situation. Konrad On 04/03/2022 
17:34, Tuukka Turunen wrote:>> Hi, Like already mentioned, use of the 
online installer is blocked from certain IP addresses. Access to the Qt 
Project source code repository has not been blocked. If you wish to discuss 
this, please remember 
http://quips-qt-io.herokuapp.com/quip-0012-Code-of-Conduct.html Yours,  
   Tuukka From: Development 
 on behalf of Konstantin Ritt 
> Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 18.23> To: Denis Shienkov 
> Cc: Qt development mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool>> 
Plz restrain your emotions. There is no reason to spread hysteria even more.>>> 
Konstantin>> пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 19:09, Denis Shienkov 
:>> Yes, it's kind of hysterical. I don't understand 
what the Qt company wants to achieve in the end? What is the purpose?>> So far, 
it looks more like a clowning: "the circus is gone, but the clowns remain.">> 
Qt Company can't stick your tongue out of the USA ass? :)>> I had a higher 
opinion of Qt Company up to this point ...>> This is not serious somehow, some 
kind of kindergarten. LOL. :)>> BR, Denis 04.03.2022 18:58, Konstantin Ritt 
пишет:>> As long as I can fetch sources I wouldn't take any actions.>> But 
anyways, bringing your own political preferences to the open source world rules 
is a quite hypocritical move.>> In the adult world, it doesn't matter if your 
community members / contributors have a skin tone, political or sexual 
preferences not like yours, or an IP address that belongs to some particular 
territory. Disappointed Konstantin>> пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 18:01, Andy 
Shaw :>> Hi, It is because your IP is detected to be in a 
country we do not allow downloads. If you are not able to access something you 
have purchased then let me know and I will get someone to get in touch with you 
directly about this. Otherwise, for the time being, this IP block will be in 
place. Regards,>> Andy From: Development 
 On Behalf Of Konstantin Ritt> Sent: 

Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

[Elvis Stansvik]

You answered two out of the five questions Konrad had. Can you answer
the remaining ones?

Cheers,
Elvis

Den lör 5 mars 2022 kl 11:08 skrev Tuukka Turunen :
>
> Hi Konrad et al,
>
>
>
> Like already mentioned Qt Project systems, code.qt.io repositories, github 
> mirror etc are not blocked. Online installer for open-source users is blocked 
> from Russia and Belarus based IP addresses. Plan is to block also 
> download.qt.io and possibly some of the qt.io websites. These are done based 
> on IP address.
>
>
>
> Blocking the installer and access to binaries affects a much larger number of 
> users than those who are active in the community. It impacts also many who 
> create closed source products using the open-source Qt.
>
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Tuukka
>
>
>
> From: Development  on behalf of Konrad 
> Rosenbaum 
> Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 23.25
> To: development@qt-project.org 
> Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
>
> Hi Tuukka,
>
> I believe an official statement from the Qt Company is in order - right now 
> people are forced to find out the hard way whether they are blocked and how 
> far the block goes. It is impossible to tell whether it is on purpose or not 
> and what the purpose would be.
>
> It does not matter what side people are on, they deserve to know what's 
> happening to them.
>
> It's also easier to accept and support this, if we know what "this" is.
>
>
>
> Please state very clearly:
>
> Who is being blocked? (Location, commercial customers, open source users, 
> developers, ...?)
>
> Why are they blocked and for how long? (We might even agree with your 
> reasoning.)
>
> What services are supposed to be blocked and which ones are not supposed to 
> be blocked? (Commercial vs. Open Source, Binary vs. Source Downloads, Users 
> vs. Contributors, ...)
>
> Where to report bugs in this block? (e.g. is Konstantin really supposed to be 
> blocked from contributing?)
>
> And what discussions will be redirected to /dev/null?
>
>
>
> Right now we live in a situation that we all had hoped would not occur again 
> in Europe. We had hoped that the hard learned lessons of our grand parents 
> would prevent this from happening. Let's at least try to be a voice of reason 
> in this situation.
>
>
>
> Konrad
>
>
>
> On 04/03/2022 17:34, Tuukka Turunen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Like already mentioned, use of the online installer is blocked from certain 
> IP addresses.
>
>
>
> Access to the Qt Project source code repository has not been blocked.
>
>
>
> If you wish to discuss this, please remember 
> http://quips-qt-io.herokuapp.com/quip-0012-Code-of-Conduct.html
>
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Tuukka
>
>
>
> From: Development  on behalf of 
> Konstantin Ritt 
> Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 18.23
> To: Denis Shienkov 
> Cc: Qt development mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
>
> Plz restrain your emotions. There is no reason to spread hysteria even more.
>
>
> Konstantin
>
>
>
>
>
> пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 19:09, Denis Shienkov :
>
> Yes, it's kind of hysterical. I don't understand what the Qt company wants to 
> achieve in the end? What is the purpose?
>
> So far, it looks more like a clowning: "the circus is gone, but the clowns 
> remain."
>
> Qt Company can't stick your tongue out of the USA ass? :)
>
> I had a higher opinion of Qt Company up to this point ...
>
> This is not serious somehow, some kind of kindergarten. LOL. :)
>
> BR, Denis
>
>
>
> 04.03.2022 18:58, Konstantin Ritt пишет:
>
> As long as I can fetch sources I wouldn't take any actions.
>
> But anyways, bringing your own political preferences to the open source world 
> rules is a quite hypocritical move.
>
> In the adult world, it doesn't matter if your community members / 
> contributors have a skin tone, political or sexual preferences not like 
> yours, or an IP address that belongs to some particular territory.
>
>
>
> Disappointed Konstantin
>
>
>
>
>
> пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 18:01, Andy Shaw :
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> It is because your IP is detected to be in a country we do not allow 
> downloads. If you are not able to access something you have purchased then 
> let me know and I will get someone to get in touch with you directly about 
> this. Otherwise, for the time being, this IP block will be in place.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Development  On Behalf Of 
> Konstantin Ritt
> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 1:43 PM
> To: Konstantin Shegunov 
> Cc: Qt development mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
>
>
>
> I don't care. I need some explanations here, at public dev ML.
>
>
> Regards,
> Konstantin
>
>
>
>
>
> пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 15:27, Konstantin Shegunov :
>
> Hi,
> I imagine you're using a russian IP address, so this[1] should shed some 
> light on the matter.
>
> Kind regards,
> Konstantin.
>
> [1]: https://forum.qt.io/topic/134724/unlock-qt-in-russia
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

[Tuukka Turunen]

Hi Konrad et al,

Like already mentioned Qt Project systems, code.qt.io repositories, github 
mirror etc are not blocked. Online installer for open-source users is blocked 
from Russia and Belarus based IP addresses. Plan is to block also 
download.qt.io and possibly some of the qt.io websites. These are done based on 
IP address.

Blocking the installer and access to binaries affects a much larger number of 
users than those who are active in the community. It impacts also many who 
create closed source products using the open-source Qt.

Yours,

Tuukka

From: Development  on behalf of Konrad 
Rosenbaum 
Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 23.25
To: development@qt-project.org 
Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

Hi Tuukka,

I believe an official statement from the Qt Company is in order - right now 
people are forced to find out the hard way whether they are blocked and how far 
the block goes. It is impossible to tell whether it is on purpose or not and 
what the purpose would be.

It does not matter what side people are on, they deserve to know what's 
happening to them.

It's also easier to accept and support this, if we know what "this" is.



Please state very clearly:

Who is being blocked? (Location, commercial customers, open source users, 
developers, ...?)

Why are they blocked and for how long? (We might even agree with your 
reasoning.)

What services are supposed to be blocked and which ones are not supposed to be 
blocked? (Commercial vs. Open Source, Binary vs. Source Downloads, Users vs. 
Contributors, ...)

Where to report bugs in this block? (e.g. is Konstantin really supposed to be 
blocked from contributing?)

And what discussions will be redirected to /dev/null?



Right now we live in a situation that we all had hoped would not occur again in 
Europe. We had hoped that the hard learned lessons of our grand parents would 
prevent this from happening. Let's at least try to be a voice of reason in this 
situation.



Konrad


On 04/03/2022 17:34, Tuukka Turunen wrote:
Hi,

Like already mentioned, use of the online installer is blocked from certain IP 
addresses.

Access to the Qt Project source code repository has not been blocked.

If you wish to discuss this, please remember 
http://quips-qt-io.herokuapp.com/quip-0012-Code-of-Conduct.html

Yours,

Tuukka

From: Development 
 
on behalf of Konstantin Ritt 
Date: Friday, 4. March 2022 at 18.23
To: Denis Shienkov 
Cc: Qt development mailing list 

Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool
Plz restrain your emotions. There is no reason to spread hysteria even more.

Konstantin


пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 19:09, Denis Shienkov 
mailto:denis.shien...@gmail.com>>:

Yes, it's kind of hysterical. I don't understand what the Qt company wants to 
achieve in the end? What is the purpose?

So far, it looks more like a clowning: "the circus is gone, but the clowns 
remain."

Qt Company can't stick your tongue out of the USA ass? :)

I had a higher opinion of Qt Company up to this point ...

This is not serious somehow, some kind of kindergarten. LOL. :)

BR, Denis


04.03.2022 18:58, Konstantin Ritt пишет:
As long as I can fetch sources I wouldn't take any actions.
But anyways, bringing your own political preferences to the open source world 
rules is a quite hypocritical move.
In the adult world, it doesn't matter if your community members / contributors 
have a skin tone, political or sexual preferences not like yours, or an IP 
address that belongs to some particular territory.

Disappointed Konstantin


пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 18:01, Andy Shaw mailto:andy.s...@qt.io>>:
Hi,

It is because your IP is detected to be in a country we do not allow downloads. 
If you are not able to access something you have purchased then let me know and 
I will get someone to get in touch with you directly about this. Otherwise, for 
the time being, this IP block will be in place.

Regards,
Andy

From: Development 
mailto:development-boun...@qt-project.org>> 
On Behalf Of Konstantin Ritt
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 1:43 PM
To: Konstantin Shegunov mailto:kshegu...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Qt development mailing list 
mailto:development@qt-project.org>>
Subject: Re: [Development] Maintainance Tool

I don't care. I need some explanations here, at public dev ML.

Regards,
Konstantin


пт, 4 мар. 2022 г. в 15:27, Konstantin Shegunov 
mailto:kshegu...@gmail.com>>:
Hi,
I imagine you're using a russian IP address, so this[1] should shed some light 
on the matter.

Kind regards,
Konstantin.

[1]: https://forum.qt.io/topic/134724/unlock-qt-in-russia




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