Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Konstantin Ritt]

Ignoring a large part of the community IS a problem.
Most people won't say they aren't ok with something. Until it is too late
to say anything at all.

Regards,
Konstantin


вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 23:02, Elvis Stansvik :

> Den tis 27 sep. 2022 kl 21:52 skrev Elvis Stansvik :
> >
> > Den tis 27 sep. 2022 kl 21:01 skrev Thiago Macieira <
> thiago.macie...@intel.com>:
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 09:48:01 PDT Elvis Stansvik wrote:
> > > > The typical mail here is about development of Qt, and while some of
> > > > those mails may be specialized and only may not be interesting to
> > > > *everyone*, they could potentially be interesting to *anyone* (e.g.
> > > > cover some technical topic they want to learn about etc). I don't
> > > > think that can be said of commercial-only release announcement, which
> > > > are for sure only interesting to a certain subset of subscribers, so
> > > > suggest keeping them on some commercial-only list.
> > >
> > > For me, what's interesting is to know the *date* of the release,
> because it
> > > sets the 12-month timer for a new open source drop.
> >
> > True :)
> >
> > Open source code drops can be announced here, but I guess there's some
> > value in knowing about the first commercial-only releases, for those
> > who want to pencil in the drop date in their calendars.
>
> I guess it's just that I can understand Konstantin's sentiment, since
> it feels kind of unsolicited. When I signed up for this list, I
> solicited Qt development conversations. There is a list for
> announcements after all. It feels like I'm getting a newsletter I
> didn't sign up for, without a way to unsubscribe without losing all
> the Qt dev conversations that I do want to follow.
>
> But if most people are OK with it, no problem. It's not a big deal.
>
> Elvis
>
> >
> > Elvis
> >
> > >
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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Konstantin Ritt]

That's not about Qt development, that's about commercial Qt fork
development.
For commercial users, you have a dedicated commercial-only mailing list(s).

I’m sure you can configure your email client to send all emails with sender
“Konstantin Ritt” to the bin if these messages are irrelevant to you.

Regards,
Konstantin


вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 18:18, Volker Hilsheimer :

> Konstantin,
>
> We have users with commercial licenses and access to those releases on
> this mailing list as well. And some of them contribute to Qt, and are
> perhaps happy to find out that a patch they might have contributed is now
> available to them through an official commercial package.
>
> I’m sure you can configure your email client to send all emails with
> subject “.*LTS Commercial released” to the bin if these announcements are
> irrelevant to you.
>
> Volker
>
>
> > On 27 Sep 2022, at 13:28, Konstantin Ritt  wrote:
> >
> > Please stop announcing this kind of updates through the development
> mailing list!
> >
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> >
> > вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 14:20, Tarja Sundqvist :
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > we have released Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial today. Please see the blog post:
> >
> > https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released
> >
> >
> >
> > Big thanks to everyone involved & have nice autumn!
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Tarja Sundqvist
> >
> > Release Manager
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Elvis Stansvik]

Den tis 27 sep. 2022 kl 21:52 skrev Elvis Stansvik :
>
> Den tis 27 sep. 2022 kl 21:01 skrev Thiago Macieira 
> :
> >
> > On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 09:48:01 PDT Elvis Stansvik wrote:
> > > The typical mail here is about development of Qt, and while some of
> > > those mails may be specialized and only may not be interesting to
> > > *everyone*, they could potentially be interesting to *anyone* (e.g.
> > > cover some technical topic they want to learn about etc). I don't
> > > think that can be said of commercial-only release announcement, which
> > > are for sure only interesting to a certain subset of subscribers, so
> > > suggest keeping them on some commercial-only list.
> >
> > For me, what's interesting is to know the *date* of the release, because it
> > sets the 12-month timer for a new open source drop.
>
> True :)
>
> Open source code drops can be announced here, but I guess there's some
> value in knowing about the first commercial-only releases, for those
> who want to pencil in the drop date in their calendars.

I guess it's just that I can understand Konstantin's sentiment, since
it feels kind of unsolicited. When I signed up for this list, I
solicited Qt development conversations. There is a list for
announcements after all. It feels like I'm getting a newsletter I
didn't sign up for, without a way to unsubscribe without losing all
the Qt dev conversations that I do want to follow.

But if most people are OK with it, no problem. It's not a big deal.

Elvis

>
> Elvis
>
> >
> > --
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> >   Cloud Software Architect - Intel DCAI Cloud Engineering
> >
> >
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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Elvis Stansvik]

Den tis 27 sep. 2022 kl 21:01 skrev Thiago Macieira :
>
> On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 09:48:01 PDT Elvis Stansvik wrote:
> > The typical mail here is about development of Qt, and while some of
> > those mails may be specialized and only may not be interesting to
> > *everyone*, they could potentially be interesting to *anyone* (e.g.
> > cover some technical topic they want to learn about etc). I don't
> > think that can be said of commercial-only release announcement, which
> > are for sure only interesting to a certain subset of subscribers, so
> > suggest keeping them on some commercial-only list.
>
> For me, what's interesting is to know the *date* of the release, because it
> sets the 12-month timer for a new open source drop.

True :)

Open source code drops can be announced here, but I guess there's some
value in knowing about the first commercial-only releases, for those
who want to pencil in the drop date in their calendars.

Elvis

>
> --
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>   Cloud Software Architect - Intel DCAI Cloud Engineering
>
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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Thiago Macieira]

On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 09:48:01 PDT Elvis Stansvik wrote:
> The typical mail here is about development of Qt, and while some of
> those mails may be specialized and only may not be interesting to
> *everyone*, they could potentially be interesting to *anyone* (e.g.
> cover some technical topic they want to learn about etc). I don't
> think that can be said of commercial-only release announcement, which
> are for sure only interesting to a certain subset of subscribers, so
> suggest keeping them on some commercial-only list.

For me, what's interesting is to know the *date* of the release, because it 
sets the 12-month timer for a new open source drop.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
  Cloud Software Architect - Intel DCAI Cloud Engineering



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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Elvis Stansvik]

Den tis 27 sep. 2022 kl 17:19 skrev Volker Hilsheimer :
>
> Konstantin,
>
> We have users with commercial licenses and access to those releases on this 
> mailing list as well. And some of them contribute to Qt, and are perhaps 
> happy to find out that a patch they might have contributed is now available 
> to them through an official commercial package.
>
> I’m sure you can configure your email client to send all emails with subject 
> “.*LTS Commercial released” to the bin if these announcements are irrelevant 
> to you.

While that is true, I think the criteria for sending something to a
public mailing list should be that the mail could *potentially* be of
interest to anyone on the list, otherwise you are just spamming a
potentially large number of subscribers. It's basic netiquette.

The typical mail here is about development of Qt, and while some of
those mails may be specialized and only may not be interesting to
*everyone*, they could potentially be interesting to *anyone* (e.g.
cover some technical topic they want to learn about etc). I don't
think that can be said of commercial-only release announcement, which
are for sure only interesting to a certain subset of subscribers, so
suggest keeping them on some commercial-only list.

Elvis

>
> Volker
>
>
> > On 27 Sep 2022, at 13:28, Konstantin Ritt  wrote:
> >
> > Please stop announcing this kind of updates through the development mailing 
> > list!
> >
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> >
> > вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 14:20, Tarja Sundqvist :
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > we have released Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial today. Please see the blog post:
> >
> > https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released
> >
> >
> >
> > Big thanks to everyone involved & have nice autumn!
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Tarja Sundqvist
> >
> > Release Manager
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Volker Hilsheimer]

Konstantin,

We have users with commercial licenses and access to those releases on this 
mailing list as well. And some of them contribute to Qt, and are perhaps happy 
to find out that a patch they might have contributed is now available to them 
through an official commercial package.

I’m sure you can configure your email client to send all emails with subject 
“.*LTS Commercial released” to the bin if these announcements are irrelevant to 
you.

Volker


> On 27 Sep 2022, at 13:28, Konstantin Ritt  wrote:
> 
> Please stop announcing this kind of updates through the development mailing 
> list!
> 
> 
> Konstantin
> 
> 
> вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 14:20, Tarja Sundqvist :
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> we have released Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial today. Please see the blog post:
> 
> https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released
> 
>  
> 
> Big thanks to everyone involved & have nice autumn!
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Tarja Sundqvist
> 
> Release Manager
> 
>  
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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Tuukka Turunen]

Hi,

You are right that cross-posting release announcements to multiple lists might 
actually not be needed? These three lists (announce, release, development) are 
the ones often used for announcing a new release. It might be that announcing 
only via the announce list would be enough. For a new release there is also 
blog post written and of course many don’t follow any of these channels but 
just see a new item pop up in the online installer.

Yours,

Tuukka

From: Development  on behalf of Konstantin 
Ritt 
Date: Tuesday, 27. September 2022 at 14.31
To: Tarja Sundqvist 
Cc: development@qt-project.org , 
releas...@qt-project.org , annou...@qt-project.org 

Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released
Please stop announcing this kind of updates through the development mailing 
list!


Konstantin


вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 14:20, Tarja Sundqvist 
mailto:tarja.sundqv...@qt.io>>:
Hi all,

we have released Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial today. Please see the blog post:
https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released


Big thanks to everyone involved & have nice autumn!



Best regards

Tarja Sundqvist

Release Manager

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Re: [Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Konstantin Ritt]

Please stop announcing this kind of updates through the development mailing
list!


Konstantin


вт, 27 сент. 2022 г. в 14:20, Tarja Sundqvist :

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> we have released Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial today. Please see the blog post:
>
> https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released
>
>
>
> Big thanks to everyone involved & have nice autumn!
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Tarja Sundqvist
>
> Release Manager
>
>
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[Development] Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial released

[Tarja Sundqvist]

Hi all,

we have released Qt 6.2.6 LTS Commercial today. Please see the blog post:
https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.6-released


Big thanks to everyone involved & have nice autumn!



Best regards

Tarja Sundqvist

Release Manager

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