Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release
(Sorry for top-posting from this web client) Thank you for the list of modules. Can I do the following changes to the wiki? 1. Move the list of modules at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0#66036ddf6d03c9ce1fc742741417f128 to two new pages: - Qt Essential Modules - Qt Add-on Modules Reasoning: the are not roadmap anymore and they are not even 5 exclusive. They are simply Qt modules in trunk. This way it's easier to link to them from other pages (e.g. Alpha release notes) without having to drag the whole Qt 5 Roadmap content. 2. Mark somehow (e.g. different background color) the modules available in the alpha release. Reasoning: to have a clear idea of the status of those modules. 3. Try to improve the names and descriptions of each module. Reasoning: now it's confusing. For instance, is qtjsbackend = V8 JavaScript engine? 4. Link each module to whatever landing page there is available somewhere in the wiki, if available. Reasoning: now only the insiders can bridge that list with whatever info is somewhere else. -- Quim From: Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP/Austin) Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:05 PM To: Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley) Cc: development@qt-project.org; Hausmann Simon (Nokia-MP/Oslo) Subject: Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release On 12/03/2012 18:10, ext Quim Gil wrote: Also, a basic question: where can someone find the actual list of Essential and Add-on modules that will be included in the Alpha? A Work-in-progress list is fine, now the only reference I have is a slide from last October-November. The current release script generates a package (890MB tar = 251MB tar.gz), correlated with the categorization of modules at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0 and corrected with some recent discussions between Henry, Lars and Thiago, this list of modules: Qt Essentials: qt3d qtcore qtdeclarative qtgui qtjsbackend qtlocation qtmultimedia qtnetwork qtsql qttestlib qtwebkit Qt Add-ons: qlalr qtactiveqt qtconcurrent qtconnectivity qtdbus qtdoc qtdocgallery qtfeedback qtgraphicaleffects qtimageformats qtjsondb qtphonon qtpim qtplatformsupport qtprintsupport qtqa qtquick1 qtrepotools qtscript qtscripttools qtsensors qtsvg qtsystems qttools qttranslations qtwayland qtwebkit-examples-and-demos qtwidgets qtxml qtxmlpatterns -- .marius ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release
Hi, Please read http://qt-project.org/wiki/Spelling_Module_Names_in_Qt_Documentation. That should contain module names for most modules and gives hints on what to use (I am aware that these guidelines are not followed everywhere) So if you have the source and see incorrect use of module names you are free to update the documentation and add me as a reviewer. Casper From: development-bounces+casper.vandonderen=nokia@qt-project.org [development-bounces+casper.vandonderen=nokia@qt-project.org] on behalf of Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley) Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:25 PM To: Knoll Lars (Nokia-MP/Oslo); Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP/Austin) Cc: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release Ok, here we go: http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Essentials-Modules http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Add-ons-Modules There are many inconsistencies listed at the Notes section of each page (and pasted below for convenience). Please help ironing these details. Unless it's a topic for discussion you can edit the wiki directly or reply to me personally (no need to flood the list with tiny details). Thanks! Essentials: * What is the right way to spell these modules? Qt Widget or QtWidget? Qt WebKit or QtWebkit… ? * Is “Qt Quick 2” the right name or “Qt Declarative” or…? * Is it “Qt JS Backend”, “V8 JavaScript engine” or…? * “Qt WebKit” is already listed as Add-on. Is it Essential or are we talking about the WebKit1 vs WebKit 2 difference here? * Is “Qt Test” = “qttestlib”? * Is “Qt System Info” = “qtsystems”? * Is Qt 3D an Essential or Add-on? * It seems Qt D-Bus, Qt Sensors are Add-ons? * Are Qt Service Framework, Qt Publish and Subscribe still in Essentials? Not in Alpha release? Add-ons: * Should these be added? qlarl, qtconnectivity, qtdoc, qtdocgallery, qtimageformats, Phonon (or Qt Phonon?), qtpim, qtplatformsupport, qtqa, qtrepotools, qttranslations, qtwebkit-examples-and-demos * Is it “ActiveQt”, qtactiveqt or…? * Is it “Qt JSON DB”, “Qt JsonDB” or…? * Is “qttools” = “Qt Script Tools” or “Qt UI Tools” or…? * Is “Qt WebKit” in Add-ons or Essentials or…? Plus these that were listed in the old page (feel free deleting them if they are not relevant anymore, or adding the comments to the cell of the appropriate component): * Phonon will be maintained upstream by KDE. * Open: Add Qt Quick components modules * Open: whether Qt 5.0 will include the Qt Document Gallery add-on module. * Open: whether Qt 5.0 will include the Qt Local connectivity add-on * Open: whether Qt 5.0 will include the Qt Messaging add-on -- Quim From: Knoll Lars (Nokia-MP/Oslo) Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:56 PM To: Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley); Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP/Austin) Cc: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release Hi Quim, sounds good, please go ahead. Cheers, Lars On 3/13/12 8:05 PM, ext quim@nokia.com quim@nokia.com wrote: (Sorry for top-posting from this web client) Thank you for the list of modules. Can I do the following changes to the wiki? 1. Move the list of modules at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0#66036ddf6d03c9ce1fc742741417f128 to two new pages: - Qt Essential Modules - Qt Add-on Modules Reasoning: the are not roadmap anymore and they are not even 5 exclusive. They are simply Qt modules in trunk. This way it's easier to link to them from other pages (e.g. Alpha release notes) without having to drag the whole Qt 5 Roadmap content. 2. Mark somehow (e.g. different background color) the modules available in the alpha release. Reasoning: to have a clear idea of the status of those modules. 3. Try to improve the names and descriptions of each module. Reasoning: now it's confusing. For instance, is qtjsbackend = V8 JavaScript engine? 4. Link each module to whatever landing page there is available somewhere in the wiki, if available. Reasoning: now only the insiders can bridge that list with whatever info is somewhere else. -- Quim From: Storm-Olsen Marius (Nokia-MP/Austin) Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:05 PM To: Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley) Cc: development@qt-project.org; Hausmann Simon (Nokia-MP/Oslo) Subject: Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release On 12/03/2012 18:10, ext Quim Gil wrote: Also, a basic question: where can someone find the actual list of Essential and Add-on modules that will be included in the Alpha? A Work-in-progress list is fine, now the only reference I have is a slide from last October-November. The current release script generates a package (890MB tar = 251MB tar.gz), correlated with the categorization of modules at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0 and corrected with some recent discussions between Henry, Lars and Thiago, this list of modules: Qt Essentials: qt3d
Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release
I have been gathering more info reality checks for the alpha announcement and release notes, and I hope to have a first draft by the end of tomorrow PST. We have three big themes: - Graphics performance: Qt Quick 2 (GL based scene graph, particle system, shader effects), Qt Quick 3D, QtOpenGL, graphics effects, video effects, MediaHub... - Web technologies: QtWebKit2, V8, JsonDB, what else? I reached to the QtWebKit mailing list for help. - Portability: QPA for real. Since the alpha release itself won't be available in many targets I'd welcome blog posts, testimonials video proof points etc of teams playing with Qt 5 QPA on different targets. For instance, it would be great to see MediaHub or any of the QtDeclarative examples running on different targets. Also, a basic question: where can someone find the actual list of Essential and Add-on modules that will be included in the Alpha? A Work-in-progress list is fine, now the only reference I have is a slide from last October-November. -- Quim ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release
On 12/03/2012 18:10, ext Quim Gil wrote: Also, a basic question: where can someone find the actual list of Essential and Add-on modules that will be included in the Alpha? A Work-in-progress list is fine, now the only reference I have is a slide from last October-November. The current release script generates a package (890MB tar = 251MB tar.gz), correlated with the categorization of modules at http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0 and corrected with some recent discussions between Henry, Lars and Thiago, this list of modules: Qt Essentials: qt3d qtcore qtdeclarative qtgui qtjsbackend qtlocation qtmultimedia qtnetwork qtsql qttestlib qtwebkit Qt Add-ons: qlalr qtactiveqt qtconcurrent qtconnectivity qtdbus qtdoc qtdocgallery qtfeedback qtgraphicaleffects qtimageformats qtjsondb qtphonon qtpim qtplatformsupport qtprintsupport qtqa qtquick1 qtrepotools qtscript qtscripttools qtsensors qtsvg qtsystems qttools qttranslations qtwayland qtwebkit-examples-and-demos qtwidgets qtxml qtxmlpatterns -- .marius ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
[Development] Demos, examples, docs etc for Alpha release (was Re: [Marketing] Qt 5 alpha approaching)
(CCing Sami Lehtonen Andrew Baldwin just in case they are not following this thread about http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_5 alpha release) Hi Gareth, On 03/08/2012 02:26 AM, ext gareth.stockw...@accenture.com wrote: I recently published a post on Qt Labs Blog about using shader effects to transform video / viewfinder content in QML. http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/02/29/pimp-my-video-shader-effects-and-multimedia/ This is ultracool, yes. We'll find the way to link to that blog post and specifically to the Qt 5 desktop video. Any takers for building binaries of https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtmultimedia/trees/master/examples/video/qmlvideofx for QtonPi or Harmattan + Qt 5? (or any other Qt 5 target out there) All the better if we have more videos but the one on desktop is already illustrative. The same goes for Sami Lehtonen's Qt Graphical Effects showcased in an impressive manner at http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2012/02/02/qt-graphical-effects-in-qt-labs/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=MsfioYYyrUg I wonder whether Daniel Pope or someone familiar with Qt Quick 3D could have a refreshed demo by March 20 showing what Qt 5 is up to these days. The only stuff I could find is http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=dbqdSAJFPSo (which is impressive already). ... and then we have the psychedelic demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-vBbqamNBU from Andrew Baldwin (or should I say Andy Warhol?). Anything else we should look at this point to bring a face to Qt 5? It doesn't need to be an Essential module, we'll find the way to complement the release notes with whatever looks great coming from add-ons or other projects - as long as it runs on top of Qt 5. What about Qt MediaHub, QtonPi, Qt Quick Components for desktop, PySide.. -- Quim ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
