Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Thiago Macieira 
Interleaving your two emails:

> - Branch '5.6.3' from '5.6' at the end of May/beginning of June, 5.6.3
> release target August 2017 
> - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
> - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
> - Branch '5.9.1' from '5.9' at the end of July/beginning of August,
> 5.9.1 release target September 2017 
> - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
> - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
> - Branch '5.9.2' from '5.9' Nov 2017
> - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017
> - Branch '5.6.4' from '5.6' Jan 2018

Any chance to pull in 5.6.3 release to the first half of the year? We've 
already got the first 5.9 beta out, so the release should happen hopefully by 
the end of May. We should be able to branch 5.6.3 and release sooner than 
August. That would also help alleviate the work of both a 5.6.3 and 5.10 alpha 
close together.

At this time, 5.6.3 has 405 patches in qtbase, versus 530 that went there for 
5.6.2. I'd rather release with fewer than more, as it decreases the chance of 
being difficult to achieve a release. And the more we wait, the more there will 
be of them. And it would place 5.6.3 more or less half-way between 5.6.2 (Nov 
2016) and 5.6.4 (Feb 2018).

The rest seems fine.

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Aleix Pol 
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Jani Heikkinen <jani.heikki...@qt.io> wrote:
> After short internal discussion here is my proposal for those patch level 
> releases:
>
> - Branch '5.6.3' from '5.6' at the end of May/beginning of June, 5.6.3 
> release target August 2017
> - Branch '5.9.1' from '5.9' at the end of July/beginning of August, 5.9.1 
> release target September 2017
> - Branch '5.9.2' from '5.9' Nov 2017
> - Branch '5.6.4' from '5.6' Jan 2018
>
> br,
> Jani
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Development [mailto:development-bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt.io@qt-
>> project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
>> Sent: maanantaina 10. huhtikuuta 2017 18.46
>> To: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org
>> Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal
>>
>> Em segunda-feira, 10 de abril de 2017, às 00:39:09 PDT, Jani Heikkinen
>> escreveu:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt
>> > 5.10 schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we need
>> > to have Qt
>> > 5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial
>> > schedule for Qt 5.10:
>> >
>> > - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
>> > - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
>> > - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
>> > - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
>> > - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017
>>
>> Can you add the Qt 5.6.3, 5.6.4 and 5.9.1 relase dates to the list, so we 
>> have
>> an idea of how much work it will be?

On another thread it was discussed as per assumption that the stable
branch (i.e. 5.9 in this case) can always be used. Would it be
feasible to shorten minor release periods? People will end up using it
anyway and the Qt project better make it easy to use a controlled
version rather than a random HEAD from the stable branch.

Furthermore, I don't think it's enough to wait 3 months to get a
stable release, we want people to have an incentive to submit upstream
and fix stuff in Qt rather than adding workarounds in their solutions.

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Tuukka Turunen 

Hi,

As discussed earlier this week 5.8 branch will be closed now, in essence as 
soon as Oswald gets to it.

Yours,

Tuukka

From: bogdan.va...@kdab.com <bogdan.va...@kdab.com> on behalf of Bogdan Vatra 
<bogdan.va...@kdab.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:36:32 PM
To: Tuukka Turunen
Cc: Konstantin Tokarev; development@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

On joi, 13 aprilie 2017 12:34:27 EEST Tuukka Turunen wrote:
> On 13/04/2017, 15.30, "Development on behalf of Konstantin Tokarev"
> <development-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt...@qt-project.org on behalf of
> annu...@yandex.ru> wrote:

>
>
> 13.04.2017, 15:11, "Bogdan Vatra" <bogdan.va...@kdab.com>:
>
> > It's just me or did you forgot to add 5.8.1?
>
>
> I think I hear how Mr. Turunen is pulling his hair out reading this :)
>
> Yes, quite right.
>

My colleagues told me all the story, what I don't understand is why 5.8 branch
is not closed. I just pushed quite a few patches in that branch ...

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Bogdan Vatra 
On joi, 13 aprilie 2017 12:34:27 EEST Tuukka Turunen wrote:
> On 13/04/2017, 15.30, "Development on behalf of Konstantin Tokarev"
>  annu...@yandex.ru> wrote:
 
> 
> 
> 13.04.2017, 15:11, "Bogdan Vatra" :
> 
> > It's just me or did you forgot to add 5.8.1?
> 
> 
> I think I hear how Mr. Turunen is pulling his hair out reading this :)
> 
> Yes, quite right. 
> 

My colleagues told me all the story, what I don't understand is why 5.8 branch 
is not closed. I just pushed quite a few patches in that branch ...

BogDan.
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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Tuukka Turunen 


On 13/04/2017, 15.30, "Development on behalf of Konstantin Tokarev" 
<development-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt...@qt-project.org on behalf of 
annu...@yandex.ru> wrote:



13.04.2017, 15:11, "Bogdan Vatra" <bogdan.va...@kdab.com>:
> It's just me or did you forgot to add 5.8.1?

I think I hear how Mr. Turunen is pulling his hair out reading this :)

Yes, quite right. 

Yours,
Tuukka

>
> Cheers,
> BogDan.
>
> On joi, 13 aprilie 2017 11:48:06 EEST Jani Heikkinen wrote:
>>  After short internal discussion here is my proposal for those patch 
level
>>  releases:
>>
>>  - Branch '5.6.3' from '5.6' at the end of May/beginning of June, 
5.6.3
>>  release target August 2017 - Branch '5.9.1' from '5.9' at the end of
>>  July/beginning of August, 5.9.1 release target September 2017 - Branch
>>  '5.9.2' from '5.9' Nov 2017
>>  - Branch '5.6.4' from '5.6' Jan 2018
>>
>>  br,
>>  Jani
>>
>>  > -Original Message-
>>  > From: Development [mailto:development-bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt.io@qt-
>>  > project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
>>  > Sent: maanantaina 10. huhtikuuta 2017 18.46
>>  > To: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org
>>  > Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal
>>  >
>>  > Em segunda-feira, 10 de abril de 2017, às 00:39:09 PDT, Jani Heikkinen
>>  >
>>  > escreveu:
>>  > > Hi,
>>  > >
>>  > > Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt
>>  > > 5.10 schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we 
need
>>  > > to have Qt
>>  > > 5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial
>>  > > schedule for Qt 5.10:
>>  > >
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
>>  > > - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017
>>  >
>>  > Can you add the Qt 5.6.3, 5.6.4 and 5.9.1 relase dates to the list, 
so we
>>  > have an idea of how much work it will be?
>>  >
>>  > --
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>>  >
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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev 


13.04.2017, 15:11, "Bogdan Vatra" <bogdan.va...@kdab.com>:
> It's just me or did you forgot to add 5.8.1?

I think I hear how Mr. Turunen is pulling his hair out reading this :)

>
> Cheers,
> BogDan.
>
> On joi, 13 aprilie 2017 11:48:06 EEST Jani Heikkinen wrote:
>>  After short internal discussion here is my proposal for those patch level
>>  releases:
>>
>>  - Branch '5.6.3' from '5.6' at the end of May/beginning of June, 5.6.3
>>  release target August 2017 - Branch '5.9.1' from '5.9' at the end of
>>  July/beginning of August, 5.9.1 release target September 2017 - Branch
>>  '5.9.2' from '5.9' Nov 2017
>>  - Branch '5.6.4' from '5.6' Jan 2018
>>
>>  br,
>>  Jani
>>
>>  > -Original Message-
>>  > From: Development [mailto:development-bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt.io@qt-
>>  > project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
>>  > Sent: maanantaina 10. huhtikuuta 2017 18.46
>>  > To: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org
>>  > Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal
>>  >
>>  > Em segunda-feira, 10 de abril de 2017, às 00:39:09 PDT, Jani Heikkinen
>>  >
>>  > escreveu:
>>  > > Hi,
>>  > >
>>  > > Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt
>>  > > 5.10 schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we need
>>  > > to have Qt
>>  > > 5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial
>>  > > schedule for Qt 5.10:
>>  > >
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
>>  > > - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
>>  > > - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017
>>  >
>>  > Can you add the Qt 5.6.3, 5.6.4 and 5.9.1 relase dates to the list, so we
>>  > have an idea of how much work it will be?
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
>>  >
>>  > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Bogdan Vatra 
It's just me or did you forgot to add 5.8.1?

Cheers,
BogDan.

On joi, 13 aprilie 2017 11:48:06 EEST Jani Heikkinen wrote:
> After short internal discussion here is my proposal for those patch level
> releases:
> 
> - Branch '5.6.3' from '5.6' at the end of May/beginning of June, 5.6.3
> release target August 2017 - Branch '5.9.1' from '5.9' at the end of
> July/beginning of August, 5.9.1 release target September 2017 - Branch
> '5.9.2' from '5.9' Nov 2017
> - Branch '5.6.4' from '5.6' Jan 2018
> 
> br,
> Jani
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Development [mailto:development-bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt.io@qt-
> > project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
> > Sent: maanantaina 10. huhtikuuta 2017 18.46
> > To: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal
> > 
> > Em segunda-feira, 10 de abril de 2017, às 00:39:09 PDT, Jani Heikkinen
> > 
> > escreveu:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt
> > > 5.10 schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we need
> > > to have Qt
> > > 5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial
> > > schedule for Qt 5.10:
> > > 
> > > - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
> > > - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
> > > - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
> > > - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
> > > - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017
> > 
> > Can you add the Qt 5.6.3, 5.6.4 and 5.9.1 relase dates to the list, so we
> > have an idea of how much work it will be?
> > 
> > --
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> > 
> >   Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center
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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Jani Heikkinen 
After short internal discussion here is my proposal for those patch level 
releases:

- Branch '5.6.3' from '5.6' at the end of May/beginning of June, 5.6.3 
release target August 2017
- Branch '5.9.1' from '5.9' at the end of July/beginning of August, 5.9.1 
release target September 2017
- Branch '5.9.2' from '5.9' Nov 2017
- Branch '5.6.4' from '5.6' Jan 2018

br,
Jani


> -Original Message-
> From: Development [mailto:development-bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt.io@qt-
> project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira
> Sent: maanantaina 10. huhtikuuta 2017 18.46
> To: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal
> 
> Em segunda-feira, 10 de abril de 2017, às 00:39:09 PDT, Jani Heikkinen
> escreveu:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt
> > 5.10 schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we need
> > to have Qt
> > 5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial
> > schedule for Qt 5.10:
> >
> > - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
> > - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
> > - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
> > - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
> > - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017
> 
> Can you add the Qt 5.6.3, 5.6.4 and 5.9.1 relase dates to the list, so we have
> an idea of how much work it will be?
> 
> --
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Re: [Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira 
Em segunda-feira, 10 de abril de 2017, às 00:39:09 PDT, Jani Heikkinen 
escreveu:
> Hi,
> 
> Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt 5.10
> schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we need to have Qt
> 5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial schedule
> for Qt 5.10:
> 
> - Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
> - Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
> - First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
> - Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
> - Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017

Can you add the Qt 5.6.3, 5.6.4 and 5.9.1 relase dates to the list, so we have 
an idea of how much work it will be?

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[Development] Qt 5.10 schedule proposal

2017-04-10 Thread Jani Heikkinen 
Hi,

Qt 5.9 is proceeding quite well and it is time to start planning Qt 5.10 
schedule. We want to to release 5.10 before Christmas so we need to have Qt 
5.10 FF at the beginning of August. I propose following initial schedule for Qt 
5.10:

- Qt 5.10 Feature Freeze: 8.8.2017
- Qt 5.10 Alpha Release: 31.8.2017
- First Qt 5.10 Beta Release 5.10.2017
- Qt 5.10 RC 16.11.2017
- Qt 5.10 final release 30.11.2017

br,
Jani Heikkinen
Release Manager
The Qt Company






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