[Development] Resolving the wiki situtation

2012-04-13 Thread alexandra.leisse
Hello!

I assume everyone is aware of the current situation of us having two
different wikis: one at wiki.qt-project.org and one at
qt-project.org/wiki. It was never planned to happen that way, but
sometimes plans don't really work out the way I think. :P

Anyway, the current situation is stupid, and I have a plan to fix it.

Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that currently
live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki, below the
Developing Qt category. It's not the perfect way of doing things but
after long discussions, we agreed that it is the most pragmatic.

So. If you currently have pages in the making that haven't hit the wiki
yet, please create them on qt-project.org/wiki to spare us extra work. If
you have pages that you really care about being associated with your name,
you should probably move them yourself. :)

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers,
Alex
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Web Usability Specialist









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Re: [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation

2012-04-13 Thread Girish Ramakrishnan
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM,  marius.storm-ol...@nokia.com wrote:
 On 13/04/2012 08:50, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM,alexandra.lei...@nokia.com  wrote:
 Starting from Thursday next week, we will copy the pages that
 currently live on wiki.qt-project.org over to qt-project.org/wiki,
 below the Developing Qt category. It's not the perfect way of
 doing things but after long discussions, we agreed that it is the
 most pragmatic.

 Will the old pages redirect to the new one or will the domain
 wiki.qt-project.org completely die after thursday? Ideally former
 since we have lots of pages in wiki.qt-project.org but I can live
 with the fact that it will completely die.

 I had also suggested that we make wiki.qt-project.org read-only to
 Quim. Do you think we can just lock it starting this weekend?

 Ideally I would want wiki.qt-project.org to point to the valid wiki
 (which is now at qt-project.org/wiki). I really don't think we should
 spend time and effort keeping backwards compatibility with the old
 wiki entries.


I was hoping we could have a simple url rewrite, but I agree no more effort.

Some of our pages (like devices - http://wiki.qt-project.org/Devices
which went out in yesterday's blog post) will all be broken. But as I
said, I can live with that :)

Girish
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Re: [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation

2012-04-13 Thread marius.storm-olsen
On 13/04/2012 11:03, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM,marius.storm-ol...@nokia.com
 wrote:
 On 13/04/2012 08:50, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 1:56 AM,alexandra.lei...@nokia.com
 wrote: Will the old pages redirect to the new one or will the
 domain wiki.qt-project.org completely die after thursday? Ideally
 former since we have lots of pages in wiki.qt-project.org but I
 can live with the fact that it will completely die.

 I had also suggested that we make wiki.qt-project.org read-only
 to Quim. Do you think we can just lock it starting this weekend?

 Ideally I would want wiki.qt-project.org to point to the valid
 wiki (which is now at qt-project.org/wiki). I really don't think we
 should spend time and effort keeping backwards compatibility with
 the old wiki entries.

 I was hoping we could have a simple url rewrite, but I agree no more
 effort.

 Some of our pages (like devices - http://wiki.qt-project.org/Devices
 which went out in yesterday's blog post) will all be broken. But as
 I said, I can live with that :)

Ok, the messaging since we got both wikis is that the old wiki will die 
and to use the new wiki from that day on. :)

Just copy the content over to the new wiki, and update the blog post.

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Re: [Development] Resolving the wiki situtation

2012-04-13 Thread Quim Gil
I do propose that we freeze http://wiki.qt-project.org/ giving editing 
permissions only to 
http://wiki.qt-project.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsersgroup=sysop 
and seting a deprecation period of 6? months. At the date agreed the 
wiki would be switched off.

In the meantime the pages that matter can be soft redirected e.g. 
http://wiki.qt-project.org/Events/Qt_Contributors_Summit

On 04/13/2012 09:19 AM, ext marius.storm-ol...@nokia.com wrote:
 Just copy the content over to the new wiki, and update the blog post.

Not that trivial with a page like 
http://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi/Device_program/Accepted - a page 
started well before a new wiki was in the horizon.

Or http://wiki.qt-project.org/QtonPi - a URL that is now in many places, 
most of us not controlled by us.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all fine in having just one wiki. It's just that 
it takes some time to move content properly.

Before moving all the QtonPi pages I'd like to check with the QtonPi 
developers (hundreds) what is the best next step forward. For instance, 
a DevNet group comes to mind.

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