Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Carl Schwan]

Le mercredi 14 juillet 2021 à 11:58 PM, Aleix Pol  a écrit :

> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:30 PM Vladimir Minenko>
vladimir.mine...@qt.io wrote:
>
> > I also use Element (on MacOS) since the Qt CS times. Here are some hints 
> > from my experience. For the Qt CS, I created an account on matrix.org and 
> > added it to Element. This is a separate account, not your KDE account.
> > Chat channels are called “Rooms” in Element. Searching for Rooms is under 
> > Rooms -> “+” -> "Explore public rooms”, but the search doesn’t work so well 
> > or the indexing is not ready for the new mirrored IRC channels yet. I tried 
> > to search for “qt”, and only the one for Qt Created shows up.
> > I added channels directly by copy-n-paste from the list in the Cristians’s 
> > email into the"Explore rooms” field showing up under "Explore public rooms” 
> > , e.g. #qt:kde.org . It cannot be found, but you can just hit the “join” 
> > button and you are done.
> > I hope this helps!
> > PS. As a yet another web app, Element eats another 700MB RAM, plus 1.4GB 
> > RAM for its “renderer" on my mac… 2GB per a web app?… Wow…
>
> Hi Vladimir,
> Note that you can use Neochat:
> https://apps.kde.org/neochat/
>
> It's what I've been using for a while, like many of us in KDE,
> although not on mac. We don't have official mac builds yet but there's
> nightly builds.
>
> https://binary-factory.kde.org/view/MacOS/job/NeoChat_Nightly_macos/
> It's a Qt application that you can hack, it sure won't take 2GiB. (and
> if it did, I'm sure some people here know how to help ;)).

Hi,

NeoChat does work on mac but more help on it would be welcome :) The NeoChat
matrix channel can be found here: #neochat:kde.org :)

Also if NeoChat is not to your liking https://matrix.org/clients/ list a
few more native clients. 6 of them are written with Qt (Nheko is the most
advanced and has working encryption and video chat) and there is also a
native mac client (no idea how good it is) and fluffychat written in Flutter.

I hope it helps.

Cheers,
Carl

>
> Cheers!
> Aleix
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Aleix Pol]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:30 PM Vladimir Minenko
 wrote:
>
> I also use Element (on MacOS) since the Qt CS times. Here are some hints from 
> my experience. For the Qt CS, I created an account on matrix.org and added it 
> to Element. This is a separate account, not your KDE account.
>
> Chat channels are called “Rooms” in Element. Searching for Rooms is under 
> Rooms -> “+” -> "Explore public rooms”, but the search doesn’t work so well 
> or the indexing is not ready for the new mirrored IRC channels yet. I tried 
> to search for “qt”, and only the one for Qt Created shows up.
>
> I added channels directly by copy-n-paste from the list in the Cristians’s 
> email into the"Explore rooms” field showing up under  "Explore public rooms” 
> , e.g. #qt:kde.org . It cannot be found, but you can just hit the “join” 
> button and you are done.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> PS. As a yet another web app, Element eats another 700MB RAM, plus 1.4GB RAM 
> for its “renderer" on my mac… 2GB per a web app?… Wow…

Hi Vladimir,

Note that you can use Neochat:
https://apps.kde.org/neochat/

It's what I've been using for a while, like many of us in KDE,
although not on mac. We don't have official mac builds yet but there's
nightly builds.
https://binary-factory.kde.org/view/MacOS/job/NeoChat_Nightly_macos/

It's a Qt application that you can hack, it sure won't take 2GiB. (and
if it did, I'm sure some people here know how to help ;)).

Cheers!
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Eike Ziller]

Hi,

since it took me some time to figure it out yesterday,
note that the information on https://community.kde.org/Matrix on how to 
changing your nick and identifying to the irc server does not apply to the 
libera bridge.

To change your nick, start a private chat with @appservice:libera.chat , wait 
for it to join the room, and tell it

!nick myfancynick

If you have registered your nick and want to identify to nickserv, start a 
private chat with @NickServ:libera.chat and tell it

identify myfancynick myfancypassword

To store nick and password with the bridge (in case of reconnects) tell 
@appservice:libera.chat

!username myfancynick
!storepass myfancypassword

If you want to test reconnecting tell it

!reconnect

HINT: Be patient. After connecting and the !reconnect it took a longer while (1 
hour?) for me to actually show up in IRC.
The commands for the bridge (appservice) are documented at 
https://matrix-org.github.io/matrix-appservice-irc/latest/admin_room.html

Br, Eike

> On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:40, Cristián Maureira-Fredes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mitch,
> 
> forgot to add that info! sorry :P
> 
> Here is a well documented step-by-step process:
> https://community.kde.org/Matrix
> 
> In a nutshell it's mainly going to
> https://webchat.kde.org/
> create an account and then you add that account
> to your client.
> 
> I also use element on the browser,
> and since I had already some servers,
> what I did was to select the 'Explore Rooms'
> option on the top-left corner (it has a compass icon)
> Then you can select the server on the right of the popup
> window, where you can 'Add new server'
> using your new KDE credentials.
> 
> I hope it helps
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> On 7/13/21 11:57 AM, Mitch Curtis wrote:
>> Hi Cristián, thanks for setting it up.
>> I've never used Matrix before - how do I sign in using my KDE identity (I'm 
>> using the Element client if it makes a difference)? I'm guessing I need to 
>> set the homeserver to some KDE server?
>> Cheers.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Development  On Behalf Of
>>> Cristián Maureira-Fredes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 10:59 AM
>>> To: development@qt-project.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Just to finalize this thread,
>>> as https://phabricator.kde.org/T14673 states, the following channels are now
>>> bridged:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> #qt:kde.org
>>> #qt-cmake:kde.org
>>> #qt-creator:kde.org
>>> #qt-cs:kde.org
>>> #qt-labs:kde.org
>>> #qt-pyside:kde.org
>>> #qt-quick:kde.org
>>> #qt-releases:kde.org
>>> #qt-webengine:kde.org (irc: #qtwebengine)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To share the links to the channels
>>> you can use the following:
>>> 
>>> https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-pyside:kde.org
>>> 
>>> changing 'qt-pyside' for the channel you want to share ;)
>>> 
>>> A big thanks to the KDE folks that help the process!
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/6/21 12:37 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Since nobody refused to this decision, will contact the folks at KDE
>>>> to start the process of mirroring the IRC channels into KDE's Matrix
>>>> instance.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Context
>>>>> ---
>>>>> 
>>>>> After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
>>>>> Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
>>>>> improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
>>>>> people joining the Qt Project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of the topics was Communication,
>>>>> from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE
>>>>> folks and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was
>>>>> a good idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on
>>>>> the platform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
>>>>> created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> During the QtCS,
>>>>> we tried this out, and mirrored the #

Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Cristián Maureira-Fredes]

Hey Mitch,

forgot to add that info! sorry :P

Here is a well documented step-by-step process:
https://community.kde.org/Matrix

In a nutshell it's mainly going to
https://webchat.kde.org/
create an account and then you add that account
to your client.

I also use element on the browser,
and since I had already some servers,
what I did was to select the 'Explore Rooms'
option on the top-left corner (it has a compass icon)
Then you can select the server on the right of the popup
window, where you can 'Add new server'
using your new KDE credentials.

I hope it helps

Cheers!

On 7/13/21 11:57 AM, Mitch Curtis wrote:

Hi Cristián, thanks for setting it up.

I've never used Matrix before - how do I sign in using my KDE identity (I'm 
using the Element client if it makes a difference)? I'm guessing I need to set 
the homeserver to some KDE server?

Cheers.


-Original Message-
From: Development  On Behalf Of
Cristián Maureira-Fredes
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 10:59 AM
To: development@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

Hello,

Just to finalize this thread,
as https://phabricator.kde.org/T14673 states, the following channels are now
bridged:


#qt:kde.org
#qt-cmake:kde.org
#qt-creator:kde.org
#qt-cs:kde.org
#qt-labs:kde.org
#qt-pyside:kde.org
#qt-quick:kde.org
#qt-releases:kde.org
#qt-webengine:kde.org (irc: #qtwebengine)


To share the links to the channels
you can use the following:

https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-pyside:kde.org

changing 'qt-pyside' for the channel you want to share ;)

A big thanks to the KDE folks that help the process!

Cheers


On 7/6/21 12:37 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello,

Since nobody refused to this decision, will contact the folks at KDE
to start the process of mirroring the IRC channels into KDE's Matrix
instance.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello everyone,

Context
---

After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
people joining the Qt Project.

One of the topics was Communication,
from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE
folks and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was
a good idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on
the platform.

We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.

During the QtCS,
we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel to Matrix:
https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
and according to the people that participated in the session the
experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
#qt-* channels on IRC.

Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/ Read more about KDE's
Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix


Implications


If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine, this change would only imply
that you will get more people on IRC to interact with.

If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable you
to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.

Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC, but with the current
list of moderators in the #qt- domain we can easily assign
permissions to people on the Matrix channels accordingly.

Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms outside
this thread, while they might be valid, it's out of the scope of this
proposal.

Question


I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree with the
proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat to KDE's
Matrix Instance.

If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can proceed
with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are concerns, I
would prefer to address them first.

Cheers







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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Vladimir Minenko]

I also use Element (on MacOS) since the Qt CS times. Here are some hints from 
my experience. For the Qt CS, I created an account on 
matrix.org and added it to Element. This is a separate 
account, not your KDE account.

Chat channels are called “Rooms” in Element. Searching for Rooms is under Rooms 
-> “+” -> "Explore public rooms”, but the search doesn’t work so well or the 
indexing is not ready for the new mirrored IRC channels yet. I tried to search 
for “qt”, and only the one for Qt Created shows up.

I added channels directly by copy-n-paste from the list in the Cristians’s 
email into the"Explore rooms” field showing up under  "Explore public rooms” , 
e.g. #qt:kde.org . It cannot be found, but you can just hit the 
“join” button and you are done.

I hope this helps!

PS. As a yet another web app, Element eats another 700MB RAM, plus 1.4GB RAM 
for its “renderer" on my mac… 2GB per a web app?… Wow…

—
Vladimir

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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Mitch Curtis]

Hi Cristián, thanks for setting it up.

I've never used Matrix before - how do I sign in using my KDE identity (I'm 
using the Element client if it makes a difference)? I'm guessing I need to set 
the homeserver to some KDE server?

Cheers.

> -Original Message-
> From: Development  On Behalf Of
> Cristián Maureira-Fredes
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 10:59 AM
> To: development@qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Just to finalize this thread,
> as https://phabricator.kde.org/T14673 states, the following channels are now
> bridged:
> 
> 
> #qt:kde.org
> #qt-cmake:kde.org
> #qt-creator:kde.org
> #qt-cs:kde.org
> #qt-labs:kde.org
> #qt-pyside:kde.org
> #qt-quick:kde.org
> #qt-releases:kde.org
> #qt-webengine:kde.org (irc: #qtwebengine)
> 
> 
> To share the links to the channels
> you can use the following:
> 
> https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-pyside:kde.org
> 
> changing 'qt-pyside' for the channel you want to share ;)
> 
> A big thanks to the KDE folks that help the process!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> On 7/6/21 12:37 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Since nobody refused to this decision, will contact the folks at KDE
> > to start the process of mirroring the IRC channels into KDE's Matrix
> > instance.
> >
> > Thanks everyone!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> Context
> >> ---
> >>
> >> After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
> >> Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
> >> improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
> >> people joining the Qt Project.
> >>
> >> One of the topics was Communication,
> >> from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE
> >> folks and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was
> >> a good idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on
> >> the platform.
> >>
> >> We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
> >> created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.
> >>
> >> During the QtCS,
> >> we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel to Matrix:
> >> https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
> >> and according to the people that participated in the session the
> >> experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
> >> #qt-* channels on IRC.
> >>
> >> Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/ Read more about KDE's
> >> Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix
> >>
> >>
> >> Implications
> >> 
> >>
> >> If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine, this change would only imply
> >> that you will get more people on IRC to interact with.
> >>
> >> If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable you
> >> to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.
> >>
> >> Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC, but with the current
> >> list of moderators in the #qt- domain we can easily assign
> >> permissions to people on the Matrix channels accordingly.
> >>
> >> Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms outside
> >> this thread, while they might be valid, it's out of the scope of this
> >> proposal.
> >>
> >> Question
> >> 
> >>
> >> I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree with the
> >> proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat to KDE's
> >> Matrix Instance.
> >>
> >> If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can proceed
> >> with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are concerns, I
> >> would prefer to address them first.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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> 
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> Erich-Thilo-Str. 10
> D-12489 Berlin
> 
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Cristián Maureira-Fredes]

Hello,

Just to finalize this thread,
as https://phabricator.kde.org/T14673 states,
the following channels are now bridged:


#qt:kde.org
#qt-cmake:kde.org
#qt-creator:kde.org
#qt-cs:kde.org
#qt-labs:kde.org
#qt-pyside:kde.org
#qt-quick:kde.org
#qt-releases:kde.org
#qt-webengine:kde.org (irc: #qtwebengine)


To share the links to the channels
you can use the following:

https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-pyside:kde.org

changing 'qt-pyside' for the channel you want to share ;)

A big thanks to the KDE folks that help the process!

Cheers


On 7/6/21 12:37 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello,

Since nobody refused to this decision,
will contact the folks at KDE
to start the process of mirroring
the IRC channels into KDE's Matrix instance.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello everyone,

Context
---

After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
people joining the Qt Project.

One of the topics was Communication,
from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
platform.

We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.

During the QtCS,
we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
and according to the people that participated in the session the
experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
#qt-* channels on IRC.

Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix


Implications


If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
this change would only imply that you will get more people
on IRC to interact with.

If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.

Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
channels accordingly.

Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
out of the scope of this proposal.

Question


I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
to KDE's Matrix Instance.

If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
concerns, I would prefer to address them first.

Cheers







--
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R Manager

The Qt Company GmbH
Erich-Thilo-Str. 10
D-12489 Berlin

Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi,
Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Cristián Maureira-Fredes]

Hello,

Since nobody refused to this decision,
will contact the folks at KDE
to start the process of mirroring
the IRC channels into KDE's Matrix instance.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello everyone,

Context
---

After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
people joining the Qt Project.

One of the topics was Communication,
from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
platform.

We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.

During the QtCS,
we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
and according to the people that participated in the session the
experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
#qt-* channels on IRC.

Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix


Implications


If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
this change would only imply that you will get more people
on IRC to interact with.

If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.

Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
channels accordingly.

Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
out of the scope of this proposal.

Question


I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
to KDE's Matrix Instance.

If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
concerns, I would prefer to address them first.

Cheers





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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Lars Knoll]

Another +1. 

Cheers,
Lars

> On 28 Jun 2021, at 15:24, Ulf Hermann  wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> Context
>> ---
>> After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
>> Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
>> improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
>> people joining the Qt Project.
>> One of the topics was Communication,
>> from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
>> and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
>> idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
>> platform.
>> We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
>> created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.
>> During the QtCS,
>> we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
>> to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
>> and according to the people that participated in the session the
>> experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
>> #qt-* channels on IRC.
>> Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
>> Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix
>> Implications
>> 
>> If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
>> this change would only imply that you will get more people
>> on IRC to interact with.
>> If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
>> you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.
>> Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
>> but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
>> we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
>> channels accordingly.
>> Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
>> outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
>> out of the scope of this proposal.
>> Question
>> 
>> I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
>> with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
>> to KDE's Matrix Instance.
>> If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
>> proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
>> concerns, I would prefer to address them first.
>> Cheers
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Ulf Hermann]

+1

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello everyone,

Context
---

After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
people joining the Qt Project.

One of the topics was Communication,
from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
platform.

We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.

During the QtCS,
we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
and according to the people that participated in the session the
experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
#qt-* channels on IRC.

Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix


Implications


If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
this change would only imply that you will get more people
on IRC to interact with.

If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.

Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
channels accordingly.

Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
out of the scope of this proposal.

Question


I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
to KDE's Matrix Instance.

If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
concerns, I would prefer to address them first.

Cheers




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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Shawn Rutledge]

+1
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer]

Totally +1.

On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 at 07:53, Cristián Maureira-Fredes
 wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Context
> ---
>
> After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
> Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
> improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
> people joining the Qt Project.
>
> One of the topics was Communication,
> from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
> and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
> idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
> platform.
>
> We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
> created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.
>
> During the QtCS,
> we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
> to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
> and according to the people that participated in the session the
> experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
> #qt-* channels on IRC.
>
> Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
> Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix
>
>
> Implications
> 
>
> If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
> this change would only imply that you will get more people
> on IRC to interact with.
>
> If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
> you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.
>
> Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
> but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
> we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
> channels accordingly.
>
> Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
> outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
> out of the scope of this proposal.
>
> Question
> 
>
> I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
> with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
> to KDE's Matrix Instance.
>
> If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
> proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
> concerns, I would prefer to address them first.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Max Goldstein]

+1, Great idea, lowers the barrier of entry a lot IMO and doing this with KDE 
seems like an ideal solution for everyone involved.

Best,

Max


From: Development  on behalf of Paul 
Wicking 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:01 PM
To: development@qt-project.org 
Subject: Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Context
> ---
>
> After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
> Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
> improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
> people joining the Qt Project.
>
> One of the topics was Communication,
> from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
> and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
> idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
> platform.
>
> We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
> created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.
>
> During the QtCS,
> we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
> to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
> and according to the people that participated in the session the
> experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
> #qt-* channels on IRC.
>
> Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
> Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix
>
>
> Implications
> 
>
> If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
> this change would only imply that you will get more people
> on IRC to interact with.
>
> If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
> you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.
>
> Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
> but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
> we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
> channels accordingly.
>
> Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
> outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
> out of the scope of this proposal.
>
> Question
> 
>
> I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
> with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
> to KDE's Matrix Instance.

I agree. Take my +1!

>
> If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
> proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
> concerns, I would prefer to address them first.
>
> Cheers
>
>
//! Paul
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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

[Paul Wicking]

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Context
> ---
> 
> After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
> Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
> improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
> people joining the Qt Project.
> 
> One of the topics was Communication,
> from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
> and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
> idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
> platform.
> 
> We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
> created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.
> 
> During the QtCS,
> we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
> to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
> and according to the people that participated in the session the
> experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
> #qt-* channels on IRC.
> 
> Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
> Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix
> 
> 
> Implications
> 
> 
> If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
> this change would only imply that you will get more people
> on IRC to interact with.
> 
> If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
> you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.
> 
> Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
> but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
> we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
> channels accordingly.
> 
> Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
> outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
> out of the scope of this proposal.
> 
> Question
> 
> 
> I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
> with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
> to KDE's Matrix Instance.

I agree. Take my +1!

> 
> If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
> proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
> concerns, I would prefer to address them first.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
//! Paul
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