Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
> -Original Message-
> From: Sze Howe Koh [mailto:szehowe@gmail.com]
> Sent: 28. helmikuuta 2015 4:43
> To: Kojo Tero
> Cc: development@qt-project.org; w...@qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
>
> On 27 February 2015 at 21:04, Kojo Tero
> wrote:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Sze Howe Koh [mailto:szehowe@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: 27. helmikuuta 2015 14:12
> >> To: Kojo Tero
> >> Cc: Qt Project; development@qt-project.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
> >>
> >> On 26 February 2015 at 23:05, Kojo Tero
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We just opened the new Qt Wiki at http://wiki.qt.io
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You can find the details in the blog post:
> >> >
> >> > http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/02/26/new-qt-wiki-now-available/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In short, it’s a mediawiki instance, you use Qt Account to log in
> >> > for editing,
> >> >
> >> > and the content has been migrated from the old wiki.
> >> >
> >> > And as a the content is imported, it needs cleaning up. Please help
> >> > us out in going through the content and fixing it.
> >>
> >> I notice there's an "Updated Pages" page to track cleanup progress:
> >> https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Updated_pages
> >>
> >> May I suggest doing the other way round? Apply a "cleanup required"
> >> tag to every page, and have people remove the tag after cleanup. That
> >> way, people who want to help with the cleanup can quickly see where
> >> to direct their efforts.
> >>
> >> Something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cleanup , tied
> >> to a Tracking Category:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_pages_needing_cleanup
> >
> > Keeping track on the individual page level does make sense, but I would
> like to see what pages we actually use too. Going through the import made
> me wonder whether a lot of the pages really are used at all or are the visits
> random.
> >
> > I have to familiarize myself more with the maintenance tool arsenal
> mediawiki provides. There probably are tools to add the cleanup needed-tag
> to everything in a simple manner.
>
> I was planning to write a small bot that iterates through all pages to fix
> regex-
> able formatting issues. Would that interfere with your data-gathering?
No, honestly I see March as a settling down period.
I'll mail you directly, so we can see what needs to be done.
I really appreciate the help.
> I've added some simple templates to facilitate cleanup tags. Feel free to get
> a
> web dev to polish them:
> * https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Template:Ambox
> * https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Template:Cleanup
>
> To set up the tag, simply add the following line to the pages (a different
> 'reason' can be given, if desired):
>
> {{Cleanup | reason=Automated import from ExpressionEngine}}
>
> Then, those pages will appear in
> https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Category:Articles_needing_cleanup.
> We should add this page to http://qt-project.org/contribute/ for potential
> contributors to find.
>
> I've never used MediaWiki maintenance scripts before, but I know how to
> use the lower-level HTTP API to iterate through every page (excluding those
> in https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Updated_pages ) to add the tag. Shall I
> do that?
That sounds good, just need to change the guidance after that.
Tero
>
> Regards,
> Sze-Howe
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Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
On 27 February 2015 at 21:04, Kojo Tero wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sze Howe Koh [mailto:szehowe@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 27. helmikuuta 2015 14:12
>> To: Kojo Tero
>> Cc: Qt Project; development@qt-project.org
>> Subject: Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
>>
>> On 26 February 2015 at 23:05, Kojo Tero
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We just opened the new Qt Wiki at http://wiki.qt.io
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You can find the details in the blog post:
>> >
>> > http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/02/26/new-qt-wiki-now-available/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In short, it’s a mediawiki instance, you use Qt Account to log in for
>> > editing,
>> >
>> > and the content has been migrated from the old wiki.
>> >
>> > And as a the content is imported, it needs cleaning up. Please help us
>> > out in going through the content and fixing it.
>>
>> I notice there's an "Updated Pages" page to track cleanup progress:
>> https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Updated_pages
>>
>> May I suggest doing the other way round? Apply a "cleanup required"
>> tag to every page, and have people remove the tag after cleanup. That way,
>> people who want to help with the cleanup can quickly see where to direct
>> their efforts.
>>
>> Something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cleanup , tied to a
>> Tracking Category:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_pages_needing_cleanup
>
> Keeping track on the individual page level does make sense, but I would like
> to see what pages we actually use too. Going through the import made me
> wonder whether a lot of the pages really are used at all or are the visits
> random.
>
> I have to familiarize myself more with the maintenance tool arsenal mediawiki
> provides. There probably are tools to add the cleanup needed-tag to
> everything in a simple manner.
I was planning to write a small bot that iterates through all pages to
fix regex-able formatting issues. Would that interfere with your
data-gathering?
I've added some simple templates to facilitate cleanup tags. Feel free
to get a web dev to polish them:
* https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Template:Ambox
* https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Template:Cleanup
To set up the tag, simply add the following line to the pages (a
different 'reason' can be given, if desired):
{{Cleanup | reason=Automated import from ExpressionEngine}}
Then, those pages will appear in
https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Category:Articles_needing_cleanup.
We should add this page to http://qt-project.org/contribute/ for
potential contributors to find.
I've never used MediaWiki maintenance scripts before, but I know how
to use the lower-level HTTP API to iterate through every page
(excluding those in https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Updated_pages )
to add the tag. Shall I do that?
Regards,
Sze-Howe
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Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
> -Original Message- > From: Sze Howe Koh [mailto:szehowe@gmail.com] > Sent: 27. helmikuuta 2015 14:12 > To: Kojo Tero > Cc: Qt Project; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available > > On 26 February 2015 at 23:05, Kojo Tero > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > We just opened the new Qt Wiki at http://wiki.qt.io > > > > > > > > You can find the details in the blog post: > > > > http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/02/26/new-qt-wiki-now-available/ > > > > > > > > In short, it’s a mediawiki instance, you use Qt Account to log in for > > editing, > > > > and the content has been migrated from the old wiki. > > > > And as a the content is imported, it needs cleaning up. Please help us > > out in going through the content and fixing it. > > I notice there's an "Updated Pages" page to track cleanup progress: > https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Updated_pages > > May I suggest doing the other way round? Apply a "cleanup required" > tag to every page, and have people remove the tag after cleanup. That way, > people who want to help with the cleanup can quickly see where to direct > their efforts. > > Something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cleanup , tied to a > Tracking Category: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_pages_needing_cleanup Keeping track on the individual page level does make sense, but I would like to see what pages we actually use too. Going through the import made me wonder whether a lot of the pages really are used at all or are the visits random. I have to familiarize myself more with the maintenance tool arsenal mediawiki provides. There probably are tools to add the cleanup needed-tag to everything in a simple manner. Tero > > Regards, > Sze-Howe ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
On 26 February 2015 at 23:05, Kojo Tero wrote: > Hello, > > > > We just opened the new Qt Wiki at http://wiki.qt.io > > > > You can find the details in the blog post: > > http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/02/26/new-qt-wiki-now-available/ > > > > In short, it’s a mediawiki instance, you use Qt Account to log in for > editing, > > and the content has been migrated from the old wiki. > > And as a the content is imported, it needs cleaning up. Please help us out > in going through the content and fixing it. I notice there's an "Updated Pages" page to track cleanup progress: https://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Updated_pages May I suggest doing the other way round? Apply a "cleanup required" tag to every page, and have people remove the tag after cleanup. That way, people who want to help with the cleanup can quickly see where to direct their efforts. Something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cleanup , tied to a Tracking Category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_pages_needing_cleanup Regards, Sze-Howe ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
> -Original Message- > From: development-bounces+tero.kojo=theqtcompany.com@qt- > project.org [mailto:development- > bounces+tero.kojo=theqtcompany@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of > Thiago Macieira > Sent: 26. helmikuuta 2015 20:42 > To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available > > On Thursday 26 February 2015 15:05:58 Kojo Tero wrote: > > and the content has been migrated from the old wiki. > > Which of the two old wikis? Both http://wiki.qt-project.org and http://qt- > project.org/wiki? Both, as the old old wiki should not have had active content aside from the frontpage in two years. Everything there should have been forwarding for a long time. If there has been active content somewhere inside the old old wiki, please tell me now. Tero > -- > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
On Thursday 26 February 2015 15:05:58 Kojo Tero wrote: > and the content has been migrated from the old wiki. Which of the two old wikis? Both http://wiki.qt-project.org and http://qt-project.org/wiki? -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
Yes, that does look nicer. Can you open a bug for me on bugreports.qt.io on that? Otherwise I will forget. Tero From: Taylor Braun-Jones [mailto:tay...@braun-jones.org] Sent: 26. helmikuuta 2015 18:26 To: Kojo Tero Cc: Qt Project; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Kojo Tero mailto:tero.k...@theqtcompany.com>> wrote: In short, it’s a mediawiki instance, you use Qt Account to log in for editing, Would it make sense to turn the "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" option on by default for new accounts? Seems to me like it would be the preferred option for the average contributor. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] New Qt Wiki Now Available
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Kojo Tero wrote: > In short, it’s a mediawiki instance, you use Qt Account to log in for > editing, > > Would it make sense to turn the "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" option on by default for new accounts? Seems to me like it would be the preferred option for the average contributor. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
