Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
Hmm.. but what to do with QtQuickCompiler then? Which sources are not available… Yuri Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Konstantin Tokarev Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 1:59:31 AM To: Yuri Alexandrov Cc: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution > Is there any plans for an out-of-schedule update about this (if plan exists > at all =), as I have to deliver something end of next week, so if it’s not > going to happen next week I have to start making steps to rebuild things > myself. Even if 5.9.3 is be rebuilt and new binaries are published in time, it still won't work on RHEL 6, so I guess you have no choice. > > Regards, > > Yuri > > From: Thiago Macieira > > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 9:28 PM > > To: development@qt-project.org > > Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux > distribution > > On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:02:54 PST Jani Heikkinen wrote: > >> I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > >> on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. > > I don't think we can wait. > > This is not a regresion that will be fixed. This is almost a P0 for our users, > > since they cannot use Qt 5.9.3 as built. > > It's not really P0 because they can rebuild from sources. > > -- > > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > ___ > > Development mailing list > > Development@qt-project.org > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
> Is there any plans for an out-of-schedule update about this (if plan exists > at all =), as I have to deliver something end of next week, so if it’s not > going to happen next week I have to start making steps to rebuild things > myself. Even if 5.9.3 is be rebuilt and new binaries are published in time, it still won't work on RHEL 6, so I guess you have no choice. > > Regards, > > Yuri > > From: Thiago Macieira > > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 9:28 PM > > To: development@qt-project.org > > Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux > distribution > > On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:02:54 PST Jani Heikkinen wrote: > >> I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > >> on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. > > I don't think we can wait. > > This is not a regresion that will be fixed. This is almost a P0 for our users, > > since they cannot use Qt 5.9.3 as built. > > It's not really P0 because they can rebuild from sources. > > -- > > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > ___ > > Development mailing list > > Development@qt-project.org > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
Is there any plans for an out-of-schedule update about this (if plan exists at all =), as I have to deliver something end of next week, so if it’s not going to happen next week I have to start making steps to rebuild things myself. Regards, Yuri From: Thiago Macieira<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 9:28 PM To: development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org> Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:02:54 PST Jani Heikkinen wrote: > I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. I don't think we can wait. This is not a regresion that will be fixed. This is almost a P0 for our users, since they cannot use Qt 5.9.3 as built. It's not really P0 because they can rebuild from sources. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
You will not be able to use compiled qt installer on centos 6 anyway. It's our standard installation OS and we just compile Qt from source because glibc is incompatible On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:48 PM, probono wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Ville Voutilainen > wrote: > > On 30 November 2017 at 19:47, Thiago Macieira > wrote: > >> See https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-64820 and > >> http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2017- > November/028766.html > >> > >> The Qt 5.9.3 binaries were compiled by GCC 6, which is too new for the > latest > >> Ubuntu LTS (16.04). > > Yes. Please _at least_ support the oldest still-supported LTS version, > which is 14.04 at this time. CentOS 6 users might also still exist. > Thanks! > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development > ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
On Friday, 1 December 2017 01:53:06 PST Yuri Alexandrov wrote: > Am I right then thinking that only way to make 5.9.3 works on RH6 is to > rebuild from sources as online installer is not working there due to glibc > issues? RHEL 6 is too old, even despite this issue. You need to build from sources in very old distros. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
On Friday, 1 December 2017 00:02:54 PST Jani Heikkinen wrote: > I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. I don't think we can wait. This is not a regresion that will be fixed. This is almost a P0 for our users, since they cannot use Qt 5.9.3 as built. It's not really P0 because they can rebuild from sources. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
> I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm > and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. > One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some > regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's why > I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt 5.9.4 > instead. To be honest I have mixed feelings about that, from one point of view I understand that rebuilding now and updating installers is something which takes time and resources, but from another point of view think about commercial customers (like myself) which have expectations and plans and now I have to spend own time and resources to fix something which is a deployment bug actually, as I have to support in a system I deliver RH6 and Ubuntu 16. I am not really to blame, just to say that its not really only about release model, but about people who are using it and in certain way pay the bill. Regards, Yuri ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
Ok.. as we just moved from 5.7 to 5.9.3 =) so, nice surprise. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Konstantin Tokarev Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 1:01:19 PM To: Yuri Alexandrov; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution 01.12.2017, 12:54, "Yuri Alexandrov" : > Am I right then thinking that only way to make 5.9.3 works on RH6 is to > rebuild from sources as online installer is not working there due to glibc > issues? Same should be true for all previous releases starting from 5.8.0, as all binaries since then are built on RHEL7 and therefore require glibc 2.14 > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > From: Development on > behalf of Ville Voutilainen > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 12:08:05 PM > To: Jani Heikkinen > Cc: Thiago Macieira; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux > distribution > > On 1 December 2017 at 10:02, Jani Heikkinen wrote: >>> > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the >>> > source code, just rebuild. >> >> I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming >> on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm >> and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. >> One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some >> regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's >> why I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt >> 5.9.4 instead. > > OK by me, but let's please also strive to add an RTA test that shows > this sort of problems, should they occur in the future. > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development > , > > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
Ok.. as we just moved from 5.7 to 5.9.3 =) so, nice surprise. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Konstantin Tokarev Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 1:01:19 PM To: Yuri Alexandrov; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution 01.12.2017, 12:54, "Yuri Alexandrov" : > Am I right then thinking that only way to make 5.9.3 works on RH6 is to > rebuild from sources as online installer is not working there due to glibc > issues? Same should be true for all previous releases starting from 5.8.0, as all binaries since then are built on RHEL7 and therefore require glibc 2.14 > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > From: Development on > behalf of Ville Voutilainen > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 12:08:05 PM > To: Jani Heikkinen > Cc: Thiago Macieira; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux > distribution > > On 1 December 2017 at 10:02, Jani Heikkinen wrote: >>> > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the >>> > source code, just rebuild. >> >> I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming >> on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm >> and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. >> One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some >> regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's >> why I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt >> 5.9.4 instead. > > OK by me, but let's please also strive to add an RTA test that shows > this sort of problems, should they occur in the future. > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development > , > > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
01.12.2017, 12:54, "Yuri Alexandrov" : > Am I right then thinking that only way to make 5.9.3 works on RH6 is to > rebuild from sources as online installer is not working there due to glibc > issues? Same should be true for all previous releases starting from 5.8.0, as all binaries since then are built on RHEL7 and therefore require glibc 2.14 > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > From: Development on > behalf of Ville Voutilainen > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 12:08:05 PM > To: Jani Heikkinen > Cc: Thiago Macieira; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux > distribution > > On 1 December 2017 at 10:02, Jani Heikkinen wrote: >>> > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the >>> > source code, just rebuild. >> >> I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming >> on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm >> and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. >> One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some >> regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's >> why I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt >> 5.9.4 instead. > > OK by me, but let's please also strive to add an RTA test that shows > this sort of problems, should they occur in the future. > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development > , > > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
Am I right then thinking that only way to make 5.9.3 works on RH6 is to rebuild from sources as online installer is not working there due to glibc issues? Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Development on behalf of Ville Voutilainen Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 12:08:05 PM To: Jani Heikkinen Cc: Thiago Macieira; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution On 1 December 2017 at 10:02, Jani Heikkinen wrote: >> > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the >> > source code, just rebuild. > > I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm > and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. > One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some > regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's why > I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt 5.9.4 > instead. OK by me, but let's please also strive to add an RTA test that shows this sort of problems, should they occur in the future. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
On 1 December 2017 at 10:02, Jani Heikkinen wrote: >> > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the >> > source code, just rebuild. > > I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming > on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm > and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. > One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some > regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's why > I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt 5.9.4 > instead. OK by me, but let's please also strive to add an RTA test that shows this sort of problems, should they occur in the future. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
> -Original Message- > From: Development [mailto:development-bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt.io@qt- > project.org] On Behalf Of Konstantin Tokarev > Sent: torstai 30. marraskuuta 2017 20.49 > To: Thiago Macieira ; development@qt- > project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux > distribution > > > > 30.11.2017, 20:47, "Thiago Macieira" : > > See https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-64820 and > > http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2017-November/028766.ht > > ml > > > > The Qt 5.9.3 binaries were compiled by GCC 6, which is too new for the > > latest Ubuntu LTS (16.04). I urgently recommend: > > > > 1) find some older distro (possibly Ubuntu 16.04 LTS) to compile the > > 5.10 and further 5.9 binaries with. We will start using devtoolset-4 again, but in RHEL 7.4. It is easiest and safest change now & should be doable within 5.10.0 schedule. Work is already ongoing. > > > > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the > > source code, just rebuild. I understand that but still I think we shouldn't do this. Qt 5.9.4 is coming on January and I hope we can wait to fix this there. We are that hurry atm and even this is quite simple task it still takes quite much effort from us. One basic idea with this new release model is just this; if we found some regression it will be fixed quite soon with next patch release. So that's why I hope we can just add this in Qt 5.9.3 known issue & fix this in Qt 5.9.4 instead. br, Jani > > It seems that when RHEL was updated from 7.2 to 7.4 [1], devtoolset-6 was > installed instead of devtoolset-4 [2]. As we use artifacts from RHEL7 > configuration as official binaries, they started to require GCC 6 > > [1] https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/204675/38 > > [2] One of patches integrated before that provisioning change: > > https://testresults.qt.io/coin/api/results/qt/qtbase/1e813c55a1e3d07549cfe2d > d6fe3a927c3677c19/LinuxRHEL_7_2x86_64LinuxRHEL_7_2x86_64GCCqtci- > linux-RHEL-7.2-x86_64- > e1aea8Release_NoUseGoldLinker/2a48a3b7dcb9652b1532a3ad14de7580b5b9b > 1ee/build_1508179165/log.txt.gz > > > > > -- > > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > > > ___ > > Development mailing list > > Development@qt-project.org > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development > > -- > Regards, > Konstantin > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
On Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:48:08 PST probono wrote: > Yes. Please _at least_ support the oldest still-supported LTS version, > which is 14.04 at this time. CentOS 6 users might also still exist. > Thanks! Not necessarily. We need to support the latest LTS, at the very least. Support for oldest LTS is not a requirement if that comes with too old software. In this case, it's got GCC 4.8.2, so it's still acceptable. There's other software that needs to be evaluated for compatibility, especially those that have changed sonames recently, like the MySQL client library and some udev libs. [ICU is hopeless, so it doesn't count] -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
30.11.2017, 20:47, "Thiago Macieira" : > See https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-64820 and > http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2017-November/028766.html > > The Qt 5.9.3 binaries were compiled by GCC 6, which is too new for the latest > Ubuntu LTS (16.04). I urgently recommend: > > 1) find some older distro (possibly Ubuntu 16.04 LTS) to compile the 5.10 and > further 5.9 binaries with. > > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the source code, > just rebuild. It seems that when RHEL was updated from 7.2 to 7.4 [1], devtoolset-6 was installed instead of devtoolset-4 [2]. As we use artifacts from RHEL7 configuration as official binaries, they started to require GCC 6 [1] https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/204675/38 [2] One of patches integrated before that provisioning change: https://testresults.qt.io/coin/api/results/qt/qtbase/1e813c55a1e3d07549cfe2dd6fe3a927c3677c19/LinuxRHEL_7_2x86_64LinuxRHEL_7_2x86_64GCCqtci-linux-RHEL-7.2-x86_64-e1aea8Release_NoUseGoldLinker/2a48a3b7dcb9652b1532a3ad14de7580b5b9b1ee/build_1508179165/log.txt.gz > > -- > Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > ___ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development -- Regards, Konstantin ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Ville Voutilainen wrote: > On 30 November 2017 at 19:47, Thiago Macieira > wrote: >> See https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-64820 and >> http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2017-November/028766.html >> >> The Qt 5.9.3 binaries were compiled by GCC 6, which is too new for the latest >> Ubuntu LTS (16.04). Yes. Please _at least_ support the oldest still-supported LTS version, which is 14.04 at this time. CentOS 6 users might also still exist. Thanks! ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Urgent: Qt 5.9.3 binaries built with too NEW Linux distribution
On 30 November 2017 at 19:47, Thiago Macieira wrote: > See https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-64820 and > http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2017-November/028766.html > > The Qt 5.9.3 binaries were compiled by GCC 6, which is too new for the latest > Ubuntu LTS (16.04). I urgently recommend: > > 1) find some older distro (possibly Ubuntu 16.04 LTS) to compile the 5.10 and > further 5.9 binaries with. > > 2) recompile the 5.9.3 binaries and post them. No changes to the source code, > just rebuild. +1, that seems like a reasonable suggestion to me. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
