[e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-07 Thread Trevor Ouellette

Does anybody have any use for a Rescue Partition on the hard drive?  It
would be used for rescuing the system when the root partition is corrupted
and fails to boot.

It could also be used to revert a system back to "factory" specs.

Any thoughts on the idea?

Trev.



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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-07 Thread Les Mikesell

> From: Trevor Ouellette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Does anybody have any use for a Rescue Partition on the hard drive?  It
> would be used for rescuing the system when the root partition is corrupted
> and fails to boot.
>
> It could also be used to revert a system back to "factory" specs.

I'd rather have a 'rescue' boot option on the
CD that works like Mandrake 8.1's, mounting
the HD partition(s) automatically under the
ramdisk-based /mnt so you can just 'chroot /mnt'
and be running more or less normally while
you repair things.

  Les


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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-07 Thread Darrell May


Trevor Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Does anybody have any use for a Rescue Partition on the hard drive?  It
> would be used for rescuing the system when the root partition is
corrupted
> and fails to boot.
> 
> It could also be used to revert a system back to "factory" specs.
> 
> Any thoughts on the idea?
> 
> Trev.

Sounds attractive.  Got anything working or just planting the seed.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-07 Thread Ruwan Jayasinghe


Trevor/Darrel, 
We use Altiris Deployment Server to manage our Win9X wstns.. 
This has something called bootworks which is said to be 
resident in a partition(or sector) marked as "bad" so doesnt
show up in Windows. They use this to boot first into dos, connect
via smb to the server and look for images to blast onto the rest
of the hdd. It would be interesting to see if this idea 
could be integrated so that a hidden partition could hold
the Rescue stuff..

Thanks for bringing this up.

-Ruwan 

Darrell May wrote:
> 
> Trevor Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> > Does anybody have any use for a Rescue Partition on the hard drive?  It
> > would be used for rescuing the system when the root partition is
> corrupted
> > and fails to boot.
> >
> > It could also be used to revert a system back to "factory" specs.
> >
> > Any thoughts on the idea?
> >
> > Trev.
> 
> Sounds attractive.  Got anything working or just planting the seed.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Darrell May
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> http://netsourced.com
> http://myEZserver.com
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-07 Thread James Robertson

the Aries server by Celestic has a function like this - 2 diffrent boot
options, one boots off a diffrent partition and extracts a darball over
either the system or data partition, restoring it to factory defaults.

The other idea i had was to make the rescue disk a standard ISO9660
bootable image, burnable by most cd burning software, or a floppy boot
disk/rom data disk.

James


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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-08 Thread Trevor Ouellette

Les,

Yes, that's a good point.  Keep it off the target drive.

Trev.

> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mikesell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:24 PM
> To: Trevor Ouellette; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition
> 
> 
> > From: Trevor Ouellette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > Does anybody have any use for a Rescue Partition on the hard drive?  It
> > would be used for rescuing the system when the root partition 
> is corrupted
> > and fails to boot.
> >
> > It could also be used to revert a system back to "factory" specs.
> 
> I'd rather have a 'rescue' boot option on the
> CD that works like Mandrake 8.1's, mounting
> the HD partition(s) automatically under the
> ramdisk-based /mnt so you can just 'chroot /mnt'
> and be running more or less normally while
> you repair things.
> 
>   Les
> 
> 

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-08 Thread Trevor Ouellette

Hi Darrell,

I don't even have a line of code... :-)

I don't think it's anything urgent.  I've seen the Rescue Partition used
before and it got me thinking...  I've seen this implemented on Windows
laptops.  Just in case Windows gets corrupted, I guess .

Trev.


> -Original Message-
> From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:59 PM
> To: Trevor Ouellette; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition
>
>
>
> Trevor Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Does anybody have any use for a Rescue Partition on the hard drive?  It
> > would be used for rescuing the system when the root partition is
> corrupted
> > and fails to boot.
> >
> > It could also be used to revert a system back to "factory" specs.
> >
> > Any thoughts on the idea?
> >
> > Trev.
>
> Sounds attractive.  Got anything working or just planting the seed.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Darrell May
> DMC Netsourced.com
> http://netsourced.com
> http://myEZserver.com
>
>


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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-08 Thread Trevor Ouellette

James,

I about that.  And they use 2.4 kernel in their new gateway server.  I
wonder if they have a problem with PPTP, RealAudio, FTP and IPSec masqs.

Trev.

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> James Robertson
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:01 AM
> To: Ruwan Jayasinghe
> Cc: Dev Info
> Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition
>
>
> the Areis server by Celestic has a function like this - 2 diffrent boot
> options, one boots off a diffrent partition and extracts a darball over
> either the system or data partition, restoring it to factory defaults.
>
> The other idea i had was to make the rescue disk a standard ISO9660
> bootable image, burnable by most cd burning software, or a floppy boot
> disk/rom data disk.
>
> James
>
>
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> Victoria, Australia
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> Fax: +61 3 9427 0929
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Rescue Partition

2002-02-08 Thread Charlie Brady


On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Trevor Ouellette wrote:

> I about that.  And they use 2.4 kernel in their new gateway server.  I
> wonder if they have a problem with PPTP, RealAudio, FTP and IPSec masqs.

I suspect that some vendors might have proprietary kernel modules for
dealing with some of these protocols. Alternatively, it might be possible 
to deal with some of these protocols using user space programs, via 
netfilter's QUEUE target and the libipq API.

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