[freenet-dev] webui and accessibility

2012-02-21 Thread Pouyan Zachar
Hey,

we had a discussion on how to re-implement the webui in context of GSoC
2011. The final consensus was to use a templating engine such as Apache
velocity and externalize the whole HTML generation as template file. Main
focus was on a light-weight and fast approach.

Cheers
Pouyan

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Nicolas Hernandez <
nicolas.hernandez at aleph-networks.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is a sort of personnal introduction:
>
> We want to work on freenet accessibility. The first step could be the
> webui. In the case of a total rework of the webui. Wich framework could be
> the 'good' one in the freenet philosophy ? Wich software architecture ?
>
> Is GWT and his model a good idea ? Could it be possible to have help from
> GSoc 2012 - (i can be the man with the Umbrella) ?
>
> ... lots of questions ...
>
> Rgds
>
> - Nicolas Hernandez
> a-n - aleph-networks
> *associ?*
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[freenet-dev] webui and accessibility

2012-02-21 Thread Nicolas Hernandez
Hello,

This is a sort of personnal introduction:

We want to work on freenet accessibility. The first step could be the
webui. In the case of a total rework of the webui. Wich framework could be
the 'good' one in the freenet philosophy ? Wich software architecture ?

Is GWT and his model a good idea ? Could it be possible to have help from
GSoc 2012 - (i can be the man with the Umbrella) ?

... lots of questions ...

Rgds

- Nicolas Hernandez
a-n - aleph-networks
*associ?*
http://www.aleph-networks.com
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[freenet-dev] Website traffic increased substantially

2012-02-21 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2012, 00:41:33 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
> On Wednesday 25 Jan 2012 14:47:22 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > I already share the freenet sources as infocalypse repository within
> > freenet, so taking down github will not stop freenet.
> Yes but does it work? How much work, how many retries, how long, to
> bootstrap the repo off freenet on a fresh node? I guess this'd be an
> interesting performance metric ... IIRC infocalypse is fairly sophisticated
> so there should be relatively few lone keys that if they fail the whole
> repo fails...

On a fresh node I don?t know? I just tried it on my own node, and it took a 
considerable time with multiple tries. But then, just downloading the 60MiB of 
history should take a few hours for well-spread files, and I have 5 other 
downloads running, so I expect half a day at least. And sadly freenet keeps 
crashing on me, while I do the downloads.

Then I also found out, that my reinserting script was broken? fixed now.

I?m thinking about improving that by also regularly inserting a bootstrap 
bundle which can simply be downloaded as file and contains the whole history.

Best wishes,
Arne
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[freenet-dev] GSoC 2012

2012-02-21 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 20 Feb 2012 14:43:13 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012, 12:32:14 schrieb Ian Clarke:
> > I'm not sure whether people would object to this, but I would quite like to
> > mentor a student to work on Tahrir under the umbrella of the Freenet
> > project.
> > 
> > Thoughts?  Opinions?  Insults?
> 
> I personally think it would only be appropriate if it were code which would 
> get integrated into freenet, too - in the course of the GSoC and not at some 
> later time (=likely never).
> 
> Otherwise this would take up a slot which could be used for improving freenet 
> instead.

Only if there is a mentor available. Ian isn't available for Freenet. And I've 
explained why the two are complementary, and will eventually be mutually 
reinforcing, whatever happens in terms of codebases.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Website traffic increased substantially

2012-02-21 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2012, 00:41:33 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
 On Wednesday 25 Jan 2012 14:47:22 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
  I already share the freenet sources as infocalypse repository within
  freenet, so taking down github will not stop freenet.
 Yes but does it work? How much work, how many retries, how long, to
 bootstrap the repo off freenet on a fresh node? I guess this'd be an
 interesting performance metric ... IIRC infocalypse is fairly sophisticated
 so there should be relatively few lone keys that if they fail the whole
 repo fails...

On a fresh node I don’t know… I just tried it on my own node, and it took a
considerable time with multiple tries. But then, just downloading the 60MiB of
history should take a few hours for well-spread files, and I have 5 other
downloads running, so I expect half a day at least. And sadly freenet keeps
crashing on me, while I do the downloads.

Then I also found out, that my reinserting script was broken… fixed now.

I’m thinking about improving that by also regularly inserting a bootstrap
bundle which can simply be downloaded as file and contains the whole history.

Best wishes,
Arne

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[freenet-dev] webui and accessibility

2012-02-21 Thread Nicolas Hernandez
Hello,

This is a sort of personnal introduction:

We want to work on freenet accessibility. The first step could be the
webui. In the case of a total rework of the webui. Wich framework could be
the 'good' one in the freenet philosophy ? Wich software architecture ?

Is GWT and his model a good idea ? Could it be possible to have help from
GSoc 2012 - (i can be the man with the Umbrella) ?

... lots of questions ...

Rgds

- Nicolas Hernandez
a-n - aleph-networks
*associé*
http://www.aleph-networks.com
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Re: [freenet-dev] webui and accessibility

2012-02-21 Thread Pouyan Zachar
Hey,

we had a discussion on how to re-implement the webui in context of GSoC
2011. The final consensus was to use a templating engine such as Apache
velocity and externalize the whole HTML generation as template file. Main
focus was on a light-weight and fast approach.

Cheers
Pouyan

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Nicolas Hernandez 
nicolas.hernan...@aleph-networks.com wrote:

 Hello,

 This is a sort of personnal introduction:

 We want to work on freenet accessibility. The first step could be the
 webui. In the case of a total rework of the webui. Wich framework could be
 the 'good' one in the freenet philosophy ? Wich software architecture ?

 Is GWT and his model a good idea ? Could it be possible to have help from
 GSoc 2012 - (i can be the man with the Umbrella) ?

 ... lots of questions ...

 Rgds

 - Nicolas Hernandez
 a-n - aleph-networks
 *associé*
 http://www.aleph-networks.com



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