[freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Sunday 13 May 2012 05:29:14 Ian Clarke wrote:
> Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can* look, to
> try it:
> 
> $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git
> $ cd lantern
> $ ./run.bash
> 
> Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

How many people use desktop apps for email, forums, networking?

"Desktop app" isn't necessarily a good thing.

On the other hand there are some small but possibly significant advantages such 
as being able to control the browser in great detail, easier (node, security, 
usability) to choose where to save stuff to etc.
> 
> Ian.
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[freenet-dev] Chinese translation for Freenet website

2012-05-13 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Sunday 13 May 2012 17:22:45 Florent Daigniere wrote:
> Hi Moses,
> 
> Thanks for contributing; I've merged your work, made some minor modifications 
> and deployed your translation
> 
> Please pull from https://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git

Wrong link?

Thanks Moses anyway!
> 
> Florent
> 
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:36:00PM +, Moses wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > I've made a simplified Chinese translation of some main pages for
> > Freenet website.
> > 
> > The code is at git://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git
> > 
> > enjoy.
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[freenet-dev] Chinese translation for Freenet website

2012-05-13 Thread Florent Daigniere 
Hi Moses,

Thanks for contributing; I've merged your work, made some minor modifications 
and deployed your translation

Please pull from https://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git

Florent

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:36:00PM +, Moses wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I've made a simplified Chinese translation of some main pages for
> Freenet website.
> 
> The code is at git://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git
> 
> enjoy.
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[freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Zlatin Balevsky 
> "Desktop app" isn't necessarily a good thing.

Generally true, but you're missing out on a lot of positive black
swans with such position.

Anybody given a thought to some kind of mobile app?  A mobile app that
connects to a Freenet node running at home and does something
meaningful would increase the number of active nodes.

[freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Ian Clarke 
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Steve Dougherty
wrote:On 05/13/2012 12:29 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:

> > Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can*
> > look, to try it:
> >
> > $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git $ cd lantern $
> > ./run.bash
> >
> > Imagine if Freenet looked that good...
>
> It sure is pretty, but it prompts for my Google account credentials so
> it can import my contacts and does not appear to allow skipping that
> step. No thanks.


The functionality isn't what I'm trying to draw people's attention to, it's
the modern attractive appearance - proof that Java apps *can* look good.

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[freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Steve Dougherty 
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On 05/13/2012 12:29 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can* 
> look, to try it:
> 
> $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git $ cd lantern $ 
> ./run.bash
> 
> Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

It sure is pretty, but it prompts for my Google account credentials so
it can import my contacts and does not appear to allow skipping that
step. No thanks.

> Ian.
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[freenet-dev] Chinese translation for Freenet website

2012-05-13 Thread Moses 
Hi list,

I've made a simplified Chinese translation of some main pages for
Freenet website.

The code is at git://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git

enjoy.

[freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Ian Clarke 
Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can* look, to
try it:

$ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git
$ cd lantern
$ ./run.bash

Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

Ian.

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2012-05-13 Thread Moses 
Hi list,

I've made a simplified Chinese translation of some main pages for
Freenet website.

The code is at git://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git

enjoy.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Chinese translation for Freenet website

2012-05-13 Thread Florent Daigniere 
Hi Moses,

Thanks for contributing; I've merged your work, made some minor modifications 
and deployed your translation

Please pull from https://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git

Florent

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:36:00PM +, Moses wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 I've made a simplified Chinese translation of some main pages for
 Freenet website.
 
 The code is at git://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git
 
 enjoy.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Chinese translation for Freenet website

2012-05-13 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Sunday 13 May 2012 17:22:45 Florent Daigniere wrote:
 Hi Moses,
 
 Thanks for contributing; I've merged your work, made some minor modifications 
 and deployed your translation
 
 Please pull from https://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git

Wrong link?

Thanks Moses anyway!
 
 Florent
 
 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:36:00PM +, Moses wrote:
  Hi list,
  
  I've made a simplified Chinese translation of some main pages for
  Freenet website.
  
  The code is at git://github.com/Mosesofmason/website-staging.git
  
  enjoy.


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Re: [freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Sunday 13 May 2012 05:29:14 Ian Clarke wrote:
 Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can* look, to
 try it:
 
 $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git
 $ cd lantern
 $ ./run.bash
 
 Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

How many people use desktop apps for email, forums, networking?

Desktop app isn't necessarily a good thing.

On the other hand there are some small but possibly significant advantages such 
as being able to control the browser in great detail, easier (node, security, 
usability) to choose where to save stuff to etc.
 
 Ian.


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Re: [freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Steve Dougherty 
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On 05/13/2012 12:29 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
 Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can* 
 look, to try it:
 
 $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git $ cd lantern $ 
 ./run.bash
 
 Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

It sure is pretty, but it prompts for my Google account credentials so
it can import my contacts and does not appear to allow skipping that
step. No thanks.

 Ian.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Ian Clarke 
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Steve Dougherty
st...@asksteved.comwrote:On 05/13/2012 12:29 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:

  Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can*
  look, to try it:
 
  $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git $ cd lantern $
  ./run.bash
 
  Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

 It sure is pretty, but it prompts for my Google account credentials so
 it can import my contacts and does not appear to allow skipping that
 step. No thanks.


The functionality isn't what I'm trying to draw people's attention to, it's
the modern attractive appearance - proof that Java apps *can* look good.

Ian.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Zlatin Balevsky 
 Desktop app isn't necessarily a good thing.

Generally true, but you're missing out on a lot of positive black
swans with such position.

Anybody given a thought to some kind of mobile app?  A mobile app that
connects to a Freenet node running at home and does something
meaningful would increase the number of active nodes.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide 
Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2012, 17:38:45 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
 On Sunday 13 May 2012 05:29:14 Ian Clarke wrote:
  Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app can look, to
 
  try it:
 
 
  $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git
  $ cd lantern
  $ ./run.bash
 
 
 
  Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

 How many people use desktop apps for email, forums, networking?

Almost everybody I know who is serious about email uses a desktop app for
that…

Also I use identi.ca over choqok or emacs (identica-mode).
And IRC over Quassel. Or emacs :) (erc)

When I’m at my own computer, no web-based program beats a desktop program.

My Parents use desktop-based programs, too.

Still I like the webinterface of freenet, because I can just send people links
to http://127.… to show them how to configure something.

But a desktop program which uses freenet as backend could be quite a bit
nicer. Creating a good desktop GUI is a hell of a lot of work, though.

Best wishes,
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Re: [freenet-dev] Lantern

2012-05-13 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide 
Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2012, 13:22:57 schrieb Steve Dougherty:
 On 05/13/2012 12:29 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
  Lantern is a great example of how good a Java desktop app *can*
  look, to try it:
 
  $ git clone git://github.com/getlantern/lantern.git $ cd lantern $
  ./run.bash
 
  Imagine if Freenet looked that good...

 It sure is pretty, but it prompts for my Google account credentials so
 it can import my contacts and does not appear to allow skipping that
 step. No thanks.

I first wondered about your comment, but now I tried the program myself.

Who in his right mind writes an anonymizing program which tells Google that it
wants to connect to your friends? Google of all the services… The only way to
make that worse would be to use Facebook instead…

Best wishes,
Arne
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