Re: [freenet-dev] Great series of Freenet articles

[Ian Clarke]

Yes, I didn't realize it was yours until after I sent the last email.
Really great!

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015, 15:41 Arne Babenhauserheide  wrote:

> Am Freitag, 31. Juli 2015, 07:34:31 schrieb Ian Clarke:
> > I'm surprised I didn't see these earlier:
> http://draketo.de/english/freenet
>
> I’m glad you like them!
>
> I’ve been writing about Freenet from time to time, but the accesses
> were aroud 1000 to 8000 per article - enough to reach some of the
> interested people, but not the reach needed to really draw in lots of
> new users.
>
> > This one is quite recent:
> >
> http://draketo.de/light/english/freenet/communication-primitives-1-files-and-sites
>
> The access stats of that article are a bit different from the rest:
> Instead of receiving many hits early and then only very few more, it
> seems to get a small but steady flow of readers (it’s at more than
> 1200 accesses in the totally unreliable and likely overestimating
> Drupal reader statistics).
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
> --
> singing a part of the history of free software:
>
> - http://infinite-hands.draketo.de
>
>
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Re: [freenet-dev] Great series of Freenet articles

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

Am Freitag, 31. Juli 2015, 07:34:31 schrieb Ian Clarke:
> I'm surprised I didn't see these earlier: http://draketo.de/english/freenet

I’m glad you like them!

I’ve been writing about Freenet from time to time, but the accesses
were aroud 1000 to 8000 per article - enough to reach some of the
interested people, but not the reach needed to really draw in lots of
new users.

> This one is quite recent:
> http://draketo.de/light/english/freenet/communication-primitives-1-files-and-sites

The access stats of that article are a bit different from the rest:
Instead of receiving many hits early and then only very few more, it
seems to get a small but steady flow of readers (it’s at more than
1200 accesses in the totally unreliable and likely overestimating
Drupal reader statistics).

Best wishes,
Arne
--
singing a part of the history of free software: 

- http://infinite-hands.draketo.de



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Re: [freenet-dev] Thoughts on FProxy

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

Am Freitag, 31. Juli 2015, 08:05:22 schrieb Ian Clarke:
> Thoughts?

I think youre right in your analysis, that fproxy should look and feel
more modern. To address this, there’s already the winterface which
also decouples UI from the core. It is already partially usable and
looks really nice, but it’s not complete enough to replace fproxy for
any of our core workflows.

These tasks are still what’s needed:
https://d6.gnutella2.info/freenet/USK@um4cEaaGWlgdAK8gAFDJrqY2eiSM3fHxiPfMTu89coE,m2rG6gU~ISukN3S3qJtNwVxXr0giCtHvu8BPz605FxE,AQACAAE/winterface-deadlines/6/#sec-1-2

Winterface: https://github.com/ArneBab/Winterface

So there were already great steps towards a nice UI, but (as so often
in Freenet) the last few steps are missing to make it usable (I did
not do that work either, so please don’t take this as blaming
someone. It’s just an observation: Most of the things we have severly
lack polish).

Best wishes,
Arne
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[freenet-dev] Thoughts on FProxy

[Ian Clarke]

In the years since we designed FProxy, UI design has come a long way.  In a
sense we were ahead of our time, since many desktop GUIs are now
implemented as web apps (eg. Slack), although embedded in native containers.

In more recent years a stack of tools have emerged for designing webapps.
JavaScript is growing up, ES6

supports some nice language features like a compact lambda syntax, and
pre-processors like TypeScript  introduce
static typing, while allowing use of ES6 features on browsers that don't
yet support it.

Bootstrap  allows non-designers (ie. us) to build
pretty UIs, and React  allows concurrent
updates of the UI in a convenient form.  GraphQL

is an emerging replacement for REST for client-server communication (and a
library  exists for server-side
Java support), although it's still quite early.

Reading this article
 in
particular, it hits home the potential Freenet could have with a modern UI,
and the tools now exist for us to build a solid UI even if UI design isn't
the core competency of the typical Freenet volunteer.

Thoughts?

Ian.
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[freenet-dev] Great series of Freenet articles

[Ian Clarke]

I'm surprised I didn't see these earlier: http://draketo.de/english/freenet

This one is quite recent:
http://draketo.de/light/english/freenet/communication-primitives-1-files-and-sites

Ian.
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