Re: accessibility of web of trust

2019-03-26 Thread Craig Mcgee
Hello again Arne, sorry, I should have mentioned, I know 0 about 
programming, unfortunately, I tried learning it at college, it was like 
trying to learn a foreign language, something I'm not very good at sadly, do 
you have a working copy of the message system ie a web based interface where 
I could try solving these audio captchas?

take care
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Re: accessibility of web of trust

2019-03-26 Thread Craig Mcgee

Hello Arne, thank you for the quick reply!

Yes, this should work, provided the audio captchas are quite clear, being 
very deaf also, if they are too garbled, I would struggle with them, but im 
taking a look at that page now so will let you know!
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Re: accessibility of web of trust

2019-03-26 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hello Craig,

Thank you for writing!

A solution to CAPTCHAs for blind people are audio-CAPTCHAs, which are
already provided in the FMS forum system. These would need to be ported
to the WebOfTrust plugin, though.

See
http://127.0.0.1:/USK@0npnMrqZNKRCRoGojZV93UNHCMN-6UU3rRSAmP6jNLE,~BG-edFtdCC1cSH4O3BWdeIYa8Sw5DfyrSV-TKdO5ec,AQACAAE/fms/-137/

Best wishes, and thank you for using Freenet!
Arne

Craig Mcgee  writes:

> Hello all, my name's Craig, and I thought it best to post this to the 
> development list, rather than support, as it's more of an issue that devs 
> will need to sort out, than a help request, as I already got a friend to help 
> in this instance.
>
> I am totally blind, so use software on my computer that reads everything back 
> to me, like text to speech, but it doesnt read captchas. I have another bit 
> of software that can solve captchas but only one per page, so the web of 
> trust page, for instance, that has 17 or so captchas on it can't cope with 
> it, so this creates an access barrier. Luckily I had a friend I could send 
> over the screen shots of the pages too, to get them to send me back the 
> captchas, but this isn't really the point.
>
> I understand that there needs to be tight security, to stop people creating 
> identities on web of trust, and then using said identities to spam and be 
> trusted inherantly, without proving that they are actually human, and the 
> fact the system is anonymous wouldn't obviously allow for people to use 
> things like twitter or facebook to verify their web of trust identity, but 
> I'm hoping that someone can come up with an idea that is more accessible than 
> captchas, but still keeps out bots. I thought maybe logic questions, or 
> mathematical questions but I dont know if bots are clever enough to 
> understand those, I suspect some are, so i'm not sure of the solution?
>
> Maybe a system where if you are blind you're advised to email either the 
> support or development list with your web of trust ID and ask for someone to 
> validate it and add it to a list of ids that would be manually trusted by 
> developers after it passes some sort of anti spam test. if there was a sudden 
> spike in emails, and say 100 emails came in in five minutes, then the people 
> on the list would be more wary thinking it was spam, as its more manual than 
> the captcha process and this might be the way to do it?
>
> take care
> craig.


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accessibility of web of trust

2019-03-26 Thread Craig Mcgee
Hello all, my name's Craig, and I thought it best to post this to the 
development list, rather than support, as it's more of an issue that devs will 
need to sort out, than a help request, as I already got a friend to help in 
this instance.

I am totally blind, so use software on my computer that reads everything back 
to me, like text to speech, but it doesnt read captchas. I have another bit of 
software that can solve captchas but only one per page, so the web of trust 
page, for instance, that has 17 or so captchas on it can't cope with it, so 
this creates an access barrier. Luckily I had a friend I could send over the 
screen shots of the pages too, to get them to send me back the captchas, but 
this isn't really the point.

I understand that there needs to be tight security, to stop people creating 
identities on web of trust, and then using said identities to spam and be 
trusted inherantly, without proving that they are actually human, and the fact 
the system is anonymous wouldn't obviously allow for people to use things like 
twitter or facebook to verify their web of trust identity, but I'm hoping that 
someone can come up with an idea that is more accessible than captchas, but 
still keeps out bots. I thought maybe logic questions, or mathematical 
questions but I dont know if bots are clever enough to understand those, I 
suspect some are, so i'm not sure of the solution?

Maybe a system where if you are blind you're advised to email either the 
support or development list with your web of trust ID and ask for someone to 
validate it and add it to a list of ids that would be manually trusted by 
developers after it passes some sort of anti spam test. if there was a sudden 
spike in emails, and say 100 emails came in in five minutes, then the people on 
the list would be more wary thinking it was spam, as its more manual than the 
captcha process and this might be the way to do it?

take care
craig.