Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
Yeah, all of the provocatively racist domain names were taken anyway.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 5:30 PM craig mcgee <
craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:

> its not even much of a change, i mean id understand if the name got
> changed to something provocatively racist or something, that wouldnt be on,
> but freenet to freenet classic, oh god! how will I cope with that change?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ian Clarke 
> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>
> I know, you'd think the world was ending.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 5:25 PM craig mcgee <
> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> wow, all over a name change!!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ian Clarke 
>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:20 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>>
>> We're changing the name of the original 23-year-old Freenet software to
>> "Freenet Classic", and a new Freenet is under development, see:
>> https://freenet.org/
>>
>> A small number of people disagree with this decision and have been
>> throwing a very immature tantrum about it. They will tire themselves out
>> soon enough.
>>
>> See the recent announcement thread on this list for details.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 3:50 PM craig mcgee <
>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> so whats this harrasment. this is the first ive heard of it.
>>> people who prefer protonmail to freenet or something? not sure why
>>> people need to harrass others over that, "which project is better or more
>>> privacy protecting" why cant people just discuss it like adults and have a
>>> debate?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Ian Clarke 
>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:46 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>>>
>>> True.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee <
>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
 maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have
 any method of doing that, to be fair.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Ian Clarke 
 *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment

 You're on a mailing list.

 On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

> No emails please
>
> --
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
> gesendet.
> Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
>
>> I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now
>> extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me
>> and the project.
>>
>> To the person or persons doing this:
>>
>>- ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your
>>anonymity
>>
>>- If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
>>behavior
>>
>>- I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of
>>you
>>
>> Grow up.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> --
>> Ian Clarke
>> Founder, The Freenet Project
>> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>>
>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Clarke
>> Founder, The Freenet Project
>> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>>
>>
>
> --
> Ian Clarke
> Founder, The Freenet Project
> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>
>

-- 
Ian Clarke
Founder, The Freenet Project
Email: i...@freenet.org 


Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread craig mcgee
its not even much of a change, i mean id understand if the name got changed to 
something provocatively racist or something, that wouldnt be on, but freenet to 
freenet classic, oh god! how will I cope with that change?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  I know, you'd think the world was ending.


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 5:25 PM craig mcgee 
 wrote:

wow, all over a name change!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  We're changing the name of the original 23-year-old Freenet software to 
"Freenet Classic", and a new Freenet is under development, see: 
https://freenet.org/


  A small number of people disagree with this decision and have been 
throwing a very immature tantrum about it. They will tire themselves out soon 
enough.


  See the recent announcement thread on this list for details.


  Ian.


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 3:50 PM craig mcgee 
 wrote:

so whats this harrasment. this is the first ive heard of it.
people who prefer protonmail to freenet or something? not sure why 
people need to harrass others over that, "which project is better or more 
privacy protecting" why cant people just discuss it like adults and have a 
debate?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  True. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee 
 wrote:

maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to 
have any method of doing that, to be fair.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  You're on a mailing list. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

No emails please

--
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX 
Mail gesendet.
Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
  I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has 
now extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me 
and the project. 


  To the person or persons doing this: 
a.. ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect 
your anonymity


b.. If necessary, I will contact your local police force 
about your behavior


c.. I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an 
example of you 
  Grow up. 

  Ian. 


  -- 

  Ian Clarke 
  Founder, The Freenet Project 
  Email: i...@freenet.org 




  -- 

  Ian Clarke
  Founder, The Freenet Project
  Email: i...@freenet.org




  -- 

  Ian Clarke
  Founder, The Freenet Project
  Email: i...@freenet.org

Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
I know, you'd think the world was ending.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 5:25 PM craig mcgee <
craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:

> wow, all over a name change!!
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ian Clarke 
> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>
> We're changing the name of the original 23-year-old Freenet software to
> "Freenet Classic", and a new Freenet is under development, see:
> https://freenet.org/
>
> A small number of people disagree with this decision and have been
> throwing a very immature tantrum about it. They will tire themselves out
> soon enough.
>
> See the recent announcement thread on this list for details.
>
> Ian.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 3:50 PM craig mcgee <
> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> so whats this harrasment. this is the first ive heard of it.
>> people who prefer protonmail to freenet or something? not sure why people
>> need to harrass others over that, "which project is better or more privacy
>> protecting" why cant people just discuss it like adults and have a debate?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ian Clarke 
>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:46 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>>
>> True.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee <
>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have any
>>> method of doing that, to be fair.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Ian Clarke 
>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>>>
>>> You're on a mailing list.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:
>>>
 No emails please

 --
 Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
 gesendet.
 Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :

> I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now
> extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me
> and the project.
>
> To the person or persons doing this:
>
>- ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your
>anonymity
>
>- If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
>behavior
>
>- I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of
>you
>
> Grow up.
>
> Ian.
>
> --
> Ian Clarke
> Founder, The Freenet Project
> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>

>
> --
> Ian Clarke
> Founder, The Freenet Project
> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>
>

-- 
Ian Clarke
Founder, The Freenet Project
Email: i...@freenet.org 


Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread craig mcgee
wow, all over a name change!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  We're changing the name of the original 23-year-old Freenet software to 
"Freenet Classic", and a new Freenet is under development, see: 
https://freenet.org/


  A small number of people disagree with this decision and have been throwing a 
very immature tantrum about it. They will tire themselves out soon enough.


  See the recent announcement thread on this list for details.


  Ian.


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 3:50 PM craig mcgee 
 wrote:

so whats this harrasment. this is the first ive heard of it.
people who prefer protonmail to freenet or something? not sure why people 
need to harrass others over that, "which project is better or more privacy 
protecting" why cant people just discuss it like adults and have a debate?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  True. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee 
 wrote:

maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have 
any method of doing that, to be fair.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  You're on a mailing list. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

No emails please

--
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail 
gesendet.
Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
  I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now 
extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and 
the project. 


  To the person or persons doing this: 
a.. ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your 
anonymity


b.. If necessary, I will contact your local police force about 
your behavior


c.. I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example 
of you 
  Grow up. 

  Ian. 


  -- 

  Ian Clarke 
  Founder, The Freenet Project 
  Email: i...@freenet.org 




  -- 

  Ian Clarke
  Founder, The Freenet Project
  Email: i...@freenet.org

Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
We're changing the name of the original 23-year-old Freenet software to
"Freenet Classic", and a new Freenet is under development, see:
https://freenet.org/

A small number of people disagree with this decision and have been throwing
a very immature tantrum about it. They will tire themselves out soon enough.

See the recent announcement thread on this list for details.

Ian.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 3:50 PM craig mcgee <
craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:

> so whats this harrasment. this is the first ive heard of it.
> people who prefer protonmail to freenet or something? not sure why people
> need to harrass others over that, "which project is better or more privacy
> protecting" why cant people just discuss it like adults and have a debate?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ian Clarke 
> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>
> True.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee <
> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have any
>> method of doing that, to be fair.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Ian Clarke 
>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>>
>> You're on a mailing list.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:
>>
>>> No emails please
>>>
>>> --
>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
>>> gesendet.
>>> Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
>>>
 I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now
 extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me
 and the project.

 To the person or persons doing this:

- ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your
anonymity

- If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
behavior

- I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of
you

 Grow up.

 Ian.

 --
 Ian Clarke
 Founder, The Freenet Project
 Email: i...@freenet.org 

>>>

-- 
Ian Clarke
Founder, The Freenet Project
Email: i...@freenet.org 


Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread craig mcgee
so whats this harrasment. this is the first ive heard of it.
people who prefer protonmail to freenet or something? not sure why people need 
to harrass others over that, "which project is better or more privacy 
protecting" why cant people just discuss it like adults and have a debate?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  True. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee 
 wrote:

maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have any 
method of doing that, to be fair.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  You're on a mailing list. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

No emails please

--
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail 
gesendet.
Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
  I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now 
extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and 
the project. 


  To the person or persons doing this: 
a.. ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your 
anonymity


b.. If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your 
behavior


c.. I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of 
you 
  Grow up. 

  Ian. 


  -- 

  Ian Clarke 
  Founder, The Freenet Project 
  Email: i...@freenet.org 

Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
True.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:40 PM craig mcgee <
craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote:

> maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have any
> method of doing that, to be fair.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ian Clarke 
> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Ongoing harassment
>
> You're on a mailing list.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:
>
>> No emails please
>>
>> --
>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
>> gesendet.
>> Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
>>
>>> I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now extended
>>> to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and the
>>> project.
>>>
>>> To the person or persons doing this:
>>>
>>>- ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your
>>>anonymity
>>>
>>>- If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
>>>behavior
>>>
>>>- I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of you
>>>
>>> Grow up.
>>>
>>> Ian.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ian Clarke
>>> Founder, The Freenet Project
>>> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>>>
>>


Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
You can unsubscribe here: https://ml.freenetproject.org/v1/

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

> No emails please
>
> --
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
> gesendet.
> Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
>
>> I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now extended
>> to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and the
>> project.
>>
>> To the person or persons doing this:
>>
>>- ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your
>>anonymity
>>
>>- If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
>>behavior
>>
>>- I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of you
>>
>> Grow up.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> --
>> Ian Clarke
>> Founder, The Freenet Project
>> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>>
>


Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread craig mcgee
maybe they want to unsubscribe. the mailing list doesnt seem to have any method 
of doing that, to be fair.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Clarke 
  To: devl@freenetproject.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Ongoing harassment


  You're on a mailing list. 


  On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

No emails please

--
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.
Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
  I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now extended 
to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and the 
project. 


  To the person or persons doing this: 
a.. ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your 
anonymity


b.. If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your 
behavior


c.. I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of you 
  Grow up. 

  Ian. 


  -- 

  Ian Clarke 
  Founder, The Freenet Project 
  Email: i...@freenet.org 

Re: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
You're on a mailing list.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 3:28 PM Bernd Oswald  wrote:

> No emails please
>
> --
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
> gesendet.
> Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :
>
>> I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now extended
>> to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and the
>> project.
>>
>> To the person or persons doing this:
>>
>>- ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your
>>anonymity
>>
>>- If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
>>behavior
>>
>>- I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of you
>>
>> Grow up.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> --
>> Ian Clarke
>> Founder, The Freenet Project
>> Email: i...@freenet.org 
>>
>


Aw: Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Bernd Oswald



 
 No emails please--Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.Am 21.01.23, 19:57 schrieb Ian Clarke :

  
   I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now extended to some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and the project.
   

   
   
To the person or persons doing this:
   
   

 ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your anonymity
 If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your behavior
 I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of you


 Grow up.
 
 Ian.


 
--


 
  Ian Clarke
  Founder, The Freenet Project
  Email: i...@freenet.org
 

   
  
 



Ongoing harassment

2023-01-21 Thread Ian Clarke
I've just learned that the juvenile harassment campaign has now extended to
some of the project's donors. They are 100% supportive of me and the
project.

To the person or persons doing this:

   - ProtonMail and similar centralized tools don't protect your anonymity

   - If necessary, I will contact your local police force about your
   behavior

   - I may hire a lawyer in your jurisdiction to make an example of you

Grow up.

Ian.

-- 
Ian Clarke
Founder, The Freenet Project
Email: i...@freenet.org