Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 18:40 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Dan Roberts  writes:
> > The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare.
> 
> Do we actually need cloudflare for the hosting?


Cloudflare doesn't provide hosting.

>  Would it be simpler without cloudflare? (according to stackoverflow
> S3 should support SSL).
> 

S3 doesn't support SSL with custom domains, for that you need to use
cloudfront... Which we will probably do if we pick S3 for hosting.

The real question is whether we want:
- github-pages + cloudflare (free, not SSL-all-the-way)
- S3 + cloudfront (paid for but affordable)

It's not just "hosting", it's also "who will take care of the DNS", "who
will run the CI", ... I will have a stab at putting a PoC together this
week-end.

You can already see "cloudflare+github at 
http://javadoc.freenetproject.org/ "

Florent

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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide

Dan Roberts  writes:
> The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare.

Do we actually need cloudflare for the hosting? Would it be simpler
without cloudflare? (according to stackoverflow S3 should support SSL).

Best wishes,
Arne
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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-23 Thread Freenet
Not only does Cloudflair ruin Tor access.

https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/106740/serious-security-issue-at-cloudflare-change-all-your-passwords-now

[00:20]  cloudflare severely fucked up
[00:20]  .t
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1139
[00:20]  1139 -  cloudflare: Cloudflare Reverse Proxies are
Dumping Uninitialized Memory -   project-zero -   Monorail
[00:21]  choice quotes: "I didn't realize how much of the
internet was sitting behind a Cloudflare CDN until this incident."
[00:21]  "Cloudflare pointed out their bug bounty program, but
I noticed it has a top-tier reward of a t-shirt. Needless to say, this
did not convey to me that they take the program seriously."
[00:21]  "Cloudflare did finally send me a draft. It contains
an excellent postmortem, but severely downplays the risk to customers.
They've left it too late to negotiate on the content of the notification."
[00:22]  "The examples we're finding are so bad, I cancelled
some weekend plans to go into the office on Sunday to help build some
tools to cleanup."

Freenet:
> An anonymous FMS user raised this point.
> 
> freenet:USK@KOn1onAO97w3RNzAgcTsqSW6WAliG4EgevONnn4-qMs,k5~fkfH1PYnPABwkLAQSXUoeoX1Gh3fTXxk-pC2ujRM,AQACAAE/maybe-the-new-freenetproject.org-website/0/
> 
> Ian:
>> Re: deployment, I think the ideal would be automatic deployment from the
>> github repo on a merge to a production branch.  I assume we can do that via 
>> an
>> AWS Lambda?  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 12:40 AM, Dan Roberts ademan...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare. I don't
>> think it makes much sense to use github for any of this hosting, we already
>> threw out all of the advantages we'd get from it back in october or november 
>> for
>> the translation support, and switching to pelican didn't change the 
>> situation.
>> The pending question for me is how to handle deployment, I figure I'll end up
>> working with Florent to develop a lambda job, it should be pretty straight
>> forward.
>> Thanks,Dan
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Ian   wrote:
>> Dan, can you clarify the current plan for website hosting per Nextgens'
>> questions below?
>> Ian.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 2:29 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org 
>> wrote:
>> We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any determination
>>
>> here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting
>>
>> facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since
>>
>> github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static
>>
>> website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead). I
>>
>> have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new
>>
>> website materialises.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins the
>>
>> certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-resort 
>>
>> updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a mandatory
>>
>> release (which obviously involves some planning).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this is
>>
>> also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Florent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing
>>
>>> our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like
>>
>>> Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on
>>
>>> Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and
>>
>>> AWS has good multi-user functionality).
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Ian.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>&

Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-23 Thread Freenet
An anonymous FMS user raised this point.

freenet:USK@KOn1onAO97w3RNzAgcTsqSW6WAliG4EgevONnn4-qMs,k5~fkfH1PYnPABwkLAQSXUoeoX1Gh3fTXxk-pC2ujRM,AQACAAE/maybe-the-new-freenetproject.org-website/0/

Ian:
> Re: deployment, I think the ideal would be automatic deployment from the
> github repo on a merge to a production branch.  I assume we can do that via an
> AWS Lambda?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 12:40 AM, Dan Roberts ademan...@gmail.com  wrote:
> The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare. I don't
> think it makes much sense to use github for any of this hosting, we already
> threw out all of the advantages we'd get from it back in october or november 
> for
> the translation support, and switching to pelican didn't change the situation.
> The pending question for me is how to handle deployment, I figure I'll end up
> working with Florent to develop a lambda job, it should be pretty straight
> forward.
> Thanks,Dan
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Ian   wrote:
> Dan, can you clarify the current plan for website hosting per Nextgens'
> questions below?
> Ian.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 2:29 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org 
> wrote:
> We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any determination
> 
> here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting
> 
> facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since
> 
> github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static
> 
> website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead). I
> 
> have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new
> 
> website materialises.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins the
> 
> certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-resort 
> 
> updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a mandatory
> 
> release (which obviously involves some planning).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this is
> 
> also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Florent
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:
> 
>> Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>  Original Message 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing
> 
>> our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?
> 
>>
> 
>> What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like
> 
>> Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on
> 
>> Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and
> 
>> AWS has good multi-user functionality).
> 
>>
> 
>> Ian.
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 9:31 AM, Steve doughertyst...@asksteved.com
> 
>> wrote:
> 
>>
> 
>>  Original Message 
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires
> 
>>
> 
>> Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM
> 
>>
> 
>> UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM
> 
>>
> 
>> From: i...@locut.us
> 
>>
> 
>> To: Discussion of development issues ,
> 
>> Florent Daignière 
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how
> 
>> this is
> 
>>
> 
>> set up - who is? Florent?
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey.
> 
>> My inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.
> 
>>
> 
>> ___
> 
>>
> 
>> Devl mailing list
> 
>>
> 
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> 
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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-23 Thread Florent Daigniere
I'll work the details out; either that or using the CI tool to do it for
us (deploy the artefacts from the CI build to s3)

Florent

On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 15:17 +, Ian wrote:
>  Re: deployment, I think the ideal would be automatic deployment from
> the github repo on a merge to a production branch.  I assume we can do
> that via an AWS Lambda?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 12:40 AM, Dan Roberts ademan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare.
> > I don't think it makes much sense to use github for any of this
> > hosting, we already threw out all of the advantages we'd get from it
> > back in october or november for the translation support, and
> > switching to pelican didn't change the situation. The pending
> > question for me is how to handle deployment, I figure I'll end up
> > working with Florent to develop a lambda job, it should be pretty
> > straight forward.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Ian  wrote:
> >  Dan, can you clarify the current plan for website hosting per
> > Nextgens' questions below?
> > 
> > Ian.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 2:29 AM, Florent Daigniere nextgens@freenetproj
> > ect.org wrote:
> > We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any
> > determination
> > here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting
> > facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since
> > github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static
> > website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead).
> > I
> > have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new
> > website materialises.
> > 
> > There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins
> > the
> > certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-
> > resort
> > updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a
> > mandatory
> > release (which obviously involves some planning).
> > 
> > By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this
> > is
> > also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).
> > 
> > Florent
> > 
> > On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:
> > > Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Original Message 
> > > On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task
> > (renewing
> > > our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?
> > >
> > > What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like
> > > Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's
> > on
> > > Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too
> > (and
> > > AWS has good multi-user functionality).
> > >
> > > Ian.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 9:31 AM, Steve Dougherty  st...@asksteved.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >  Original Message 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate
> > expires
> > >
> > > Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM
> > >
> > > UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM
> > >
> > > From: i...@locut.us
> > >
> > > To: Discussion of development issues ,
> > > Florent Daignière 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with
> > how
> > > this is
> > >
> > > set up - who is? Florent?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on
> > osprey.
> > > My inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.
> > >
> > > ___
> > >
> > > Devl mailing list
> > >
> > > Devl@freenetproject.org
> > >
> > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
> > > ___
> > > Devl mailing list
> > > Devl@freenetproject.org
> > > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
> > 
> > 

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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-23 Thread Ian
Re: deployment, I think the ideal would be automatic deployment from the
github repo on a merge to a production branch.  I assume we can do that via an
AWS Lambda?  





On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 12:40 AM, Dan Roberts ademan...@gmail.com  wrote:
The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare. I don't
think it makes much sense to use github for any of this hosting, we already
threw out all of the advantages we'd get from it back in october or november for
the translation support, and switching to pelican didn't change the situation.
The pending question for me is how to handle deployment, I figure I'll end up
working with Florent to develop a lambda job, it should be pretty straight
forward.
Thanks,Dan

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Ian   wrote:
Dan, can you clarify the current plan for website hosting per Nextgens'
questions below?
Ian.  





On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 2:29 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org 
wrote:
We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any determination

here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting

facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since

github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static

website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead). I

have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new

website materialises.




There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins the

certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-resort 

updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a mandatory

release (which obviously involves some planning).




By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this is

also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).




Florent




On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:

> Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>  Original Message 

> On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing

> our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?

> 

> What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like

> Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on

> Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and

> AWS has good multi-user functionality).

> 

> Ian.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 9:31 AM, Steve doughertyst...@asksteved.com

> wrote:

> 

>  Original Message 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

> 

> Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM

> 

> UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM

> 

> From: i...@locut.us

> 

> To: Discussion of development issues ,

> Florent Daignière 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how

> this is

> 

> set up - who is? Florent?

> 

> 

> 

> 

> We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey.

> My inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.

> 

> ___

> 

> Devl mailing list

> 

> Devl@freenetproject.org

> 

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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-22 Thread Dan Roberts
The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare. I
don't think it makes much sense to use github for any of this hosting, we
already threw out all of the advantages we'd get from it back in october or
november for the translation support, and switching to pelican didn't
change the situation. The pending question for me is how to handle
deployment, I figure I'll end up working with Florent to develop a lambda
job, it should be pretty straight forward.

Thanks,
Dan

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Ian  wrote:

> Dan, can you clarify the current plan for website hosting per Nextgens'
> questions below?
>
> Ian.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 2:29 AM, Florent Daigniere
> nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote:
>
>> We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any determination
>>
>> here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting
>>
>> facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since
>>
>> github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static
>>
>> website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead). I
>>
>> have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new
>>
>> website materialises.
>>
>>
>> There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins the
>>
>> certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-resort
>>
>> updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a mandatory
>>
>> release (which obviously involves some planning).
>>
>>
>> By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this is
>>
>> also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).
>>
>>
>> Florent
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:
>>
>> > Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >  Original Message 
>>
>> > On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing
>>
>> > our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like
>>
>> > Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on
>>
>> > Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and
>>
>> > AWS has good multi-user functionality).
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Ian.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 9:31 AM, Steve Dougherty  st...@asksteved.com
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >  Original Message 
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM
>>
>> >
>>
>> > UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM
>>
>> >
>>
>> > From: i...@locut.us
>>
>> >
>>
>> > To: Discussion of development issues ,
>>
>> > Florent Daignière 
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how
>>
>> > this is
>>
>> >
>>
>> > set up - who is? Florent?
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey.
>>
>> > My inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > ___
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Devl mailing list
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Devl@freenetproject.org
>>
>> >
>>
>> > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
>>
>> > ___
>>
>> > Devl mailing list
>>
>> > Devl@freenetproject.org
>>
>> > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
>>
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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-22 Thread Ian
Dan, can you clarify the current plan for website hosting per Nextgens'
questions below?
Ian.  





On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 2:29 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org 
wrote:
We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any determination

here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting

facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since

github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static

website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead). I

have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new

website materialises.




There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins the

certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-resort 

updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a mandatory

release (which obviously involves some planning).




By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this is

also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).




Florent




On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:

> Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>  Original Message 

> On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing

> our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?

> 

> What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like

> Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on

> Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and

> AWS has good multi-user functionality).

> 

> Ian.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 9:31 AM, Steve Dougherty  st...@asksteved.com

> wrote:

> 

>  Original Message 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

> 

> Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM

> 

> UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM

> 

> From: i...@locut.us

> 

> To: Discussion of development issues ,

> Florent Daignière 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how

> this is

> 

> set up - who is? Florent?

> 

> 

> 

> 

> We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey.

> My inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.

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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-22 Thread Florent Daigniere
We need to know what we are hosting before we can make any determination
here... Last I've heard, the plan was to start with github's hosting
facility and to put either cloudflare or cloudfront in front (since
github doesn't do SSL). If it turns out that we have a fully static
website, I suggest we do s3 + cloudfront (SSL all the way instead). I
have said that I would take care of it and I will, provided the new
website materialises.

There are numerous related quirks that need ironing out; Fred pins the
certificate authority FPI uses to securely fetch plugins and last-resort 
updates... this means that changing the CA we use will take a mandatory
release (which obviously involves some planning).

By the way, we need to plan for the mailserver / mailman too (this is
also reliant on having a valid certificate as currently configured).

Florent

On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:26 -0500, Steve Dougherty wrote:
> Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing
> our cert and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?
> 
> What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like
> Florent is keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on
> Github), if so it might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and
> AWS has good multi-user functionality).
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 9:31 AM, Steve Dougherty  st...@asksteved.com
> wrote:
> 
>  Original Message 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires
> 
> Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM
> 
> UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM
> 
> From: i...@locut.us
> 
> To: Discussion of development issues ,
> Florent Daignière 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how
> this is
> 
> set up - who is? Florent?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey.
> My inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.
> 
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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-21 Thread Steve Dougherty
Sure, I'll discuss this with nextgens.






 Original Message 
On Feb 21, 2017, 11:42 AM, Ian wrote:



Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing our cert 
and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?

What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now? It seems like Florent is 
keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on Github), if so it 
might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and AWS has good multi-user 
functionality).

Ian.








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Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM

UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM

From: i...@locut.us

To: Discussion of development issues , Florent 
Daignière 




Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how this is

set up - who is? Florent?




We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey. My 
inclination would be to move to Let's Encrypt.

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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-21 Thread Ian
Steve, are you in a position to take ownership of this task (renewing our cert
and migrating to Let's Encrypt)?
What about using AWS, don't they do free certs now?  It seems like Florent is
keen on migrating everything to AWS (except for what's on Github), if so it
might be nice to have the cert through AWS too (and AWS has good multi-user
functionality).
Ian.  





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 Original Message 




Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM

UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM

From: i...@locut.us

To: Discussion of development issues , Florent
Daignière 




Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how this is

set up - who is? Florent?




We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey. My
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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-21 Thread Steve Dougherty
 Original Message 

Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires
Local Time: February 21, 2017 8:07 AM
UTC Time: February 21, 2017 1:07 PM
From: i...@locut.us
To: Discussion of development issues , Florent 
Daignière 

Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL? I'm not at all familiar with how this is
set up - who is? Florent?

We bought an SSL cert from Alpha SSL and use it with Apache on osprey. My 
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Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-21 Thread Ian
Did we migrate over to AWS for SSL?  I'm not at all familiar with how this is
set up - who is?  Florent?  





On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 2:08 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de  wrote:
Hi,







Our SSL certificate expires Wed 05 Apr 2017 22:47:32 CET GMT.







… /me makes a dramatic pause …







That’s a deadline. Almost literally.




From what I see, we need to address that for:




- the wiki (see my offer)

- the bugtracker

- the site (thanks to the work on that to Dave)

- loading plugins over clearnet

- … what’s missing?







Best wishes,

Arne




PS: Deepest gratitude to Florent for his persistency to bring this up

  again and again.

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[freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-21 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi,


Our SSL certificate expires Wed 05 Apr 2017 22:47:32 CET GMT.


… /me makes a dramatic pause …


That’s a deadline. Almost literally.

From what I see, we need to address that for:

- the wiki (see my offer)
- the bugtracker
- the site (thanks to the work on that to Dave)
- loading plugins over clearnet
- … what’s missing?


Best wishes,
Arne

PS: Deepest gratitude to Florent for his persistency to bring this up
again and again.
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