[freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3)
Ian Clarke skrev:
> Normally stuff only gets done with
> Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it.  Sitting around waiting
> for permission rarely gets anything done.

I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this 
bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback 
and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant 
atmosphere...

Perhaps we culd try to kind of move away from our current (IMHO!) 
harsh-tone-everyone-on-his-own-ish style (ala the Linux Kernel mailing 
list) towards a more encouraging-welcoming-open-community style (ala the 
Ubuntu forums)?

:)

- Zero3



[freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Ximin Luo
On 02/11/2010 04:25 PM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3) wrote:
> I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
> bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback
> and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant
> atmosphere...

we could make the mailing list software append "just because i don't think it's
a good idea doesn't mean you shouldn't do it" to the end of every email :) or
something to that effect.

X



[freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3)
 wrote:
> Ian Clarke skrev:
>>
>> Normally stuff only gets done with
>> Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it. ?Sitting around waiting
>> for permission rarely gets anything done.
>
> I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this bad
> habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback and code
> back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant atmosphere...
>
> Perhaps we culd try to kind of move away from our current (IMHO!)
> harsh-tone-everyone-on-his-own-ish style (ala the Linux Kernel mailing list)
> towards a more encouraging-welcoming-open-community style (ala the Ubuntu
> forums)?

IMHO better docs and a better defined API would also be helpful.

Evan Daniel



[freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ximin Luo  wrote:

> On 02/11/2010 04:25 PM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3) wrote:
> > I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
> > bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback
> > and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant
> > atmosphere...
>
> we could make the mailing list software append "just because i don't think
> it's
> a good idea doesn't mean you shouldn't do it" to the end of every email :)
> or
> something to that effect.


 Right, and we could do a search and replace on words to make it politer,
here are some suggestions:

"wrong" -> "not entirely correct"
"bug" -> "unintentional feature"
"stupid" -> "not completely in agreement"

;-)

Ian.

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Email: ian at sensearray.com
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[freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3)

Ian Clarke skrev:

Normally stuff only gets done with
Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it.  Sitting around waiting
for permission rarely gets anything done.


I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this 
bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback 
and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant 
atmosphere...


Perhaps we culd try to kind of move away from our current (IMHO!) 
harsh-tone-everyone-on-his-own-ish style (ala the Linux Kernel mailing 
list) towards a more encouraging-welcoming-open-community style (ala the 
Ubuntu forums)?


:)

- Zero3
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Re: [freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ximin Luo xl...@cam.ac.uk wrote:

 On 02/11/2010 04:25 PM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3) wrote:
  I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
  bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback
  and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant
  atmosphere...

 we could make the mailing list software append just because i don't think
 it's
 a good idea doesn't mean you shouldn't do it to the end of every email :)
 or
 something to that effect.


 Right, and we could do a search and replace on words to make it politer,
here are some suggestions:

wrong - not entirely correct
bug - unintentional feature
stupid - not completely in agreement

;-)

Ian.

-- 
Ian Clarke
CEO, SenseArray
Email: i...@sensearray.com
Ph: +1 512 422 3588
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Re: [freenet-dev] Encouraging contributions and community development

2010-02-11 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3)
li...@zero3.dk wrote:
 Ian Clarke skrev:

 Normally stuff only gets done with
 Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it.  Sitting around waiting
 for permission rarely gets anything done.

 I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this bad
 habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback and code
 back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant atmosphere...

 Perhaps we culd try to kind of move away from our current (IMHO!)
 harsh-tone-everyone-on-his-own-ish style (ala the Linux Kernel mailing list)
 towards a more encouraging-welcoming-open-community style (ala the Ubuntu
 forums)?

IMHO better docs and a better defined API would also be helpful.

Evan Daniel
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