[freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-03 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Friday 02 May 2008 23:06, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Nice, a few bits of feedback:
> 
> I'm not sure about the various images in the menu now (the cup, and
> Hackontext), they look a bit messy with their white backgrounds.
> 
> I think we may have too much line-spacing between the sub-menu items -
> the menu can get *very* long sometimes.
> 
> I'm not sure about the main content wrapping around the menu to the
> left, I understand this makes better use of available space, but it
> seems a bit weird - most websites don't make their content wrap around
> menus.
> 
> Oh, we need to get rid of the sourceforge logo now that (I believe)
> we've completely migrated away from sourceforge's hosting.

Not completely. We still use their release system, if only to gain additional 
publicity (since there are generally a couple of hundred people subscribed to 
the sourceforge release system for Freenet). OTOH we don't use their SVN, we 
don't use their mailing lists, we don't use their hosting even except for the 
above...
> 
> Ian.
> 
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Michael T?nzer
>  wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> >  I've done a new layout for our website. It isn't just prettier but also
> >  cleans up the mess which was done when looking at the old layout with a
> >  browser window narrower than 700 pixel.
> >  I tested it in Firefox (2 & 3), Opera, IE, Safari and Konqueror, but all
> >  of them only in the newest version, it's not seriously broken in any of
> >  them. Almost all browsers do have a problem with
> >  http://freenetproject.org/documentation.html though, there the menu is
> >  quite long and there's not much content, which causes the menu to stick
> >  out of the body element (it's just an aesthetical problem, no content is
> >  unreadable or inaccessible because of this). As always the IE is the
> >  exception, it widens the body element so the menu fits in, but it has
> >  other problems: it uses microsofts broken box model therefore the page
> >  doesn't look the same way as in the other browsers (but it's not ugly,
> >  we could do a CSS hack to fix it, but I don't think we need that) and
> >  the picture with the mug (which leads to the freenet shop) isn't centred.
> >
> >  Please test the new design in your favourite browsers and let me know if
> >  there are some problems.
> >
> >  Neo at NHNG
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[freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-03 Thread Ian Clarke 
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
>  Not completely. We still use their release system, if only to gain additional
>  publicity (since there are generally a couple of hundred people subscribed to
>  the sourceforge release system for Freenet). OTOH we don't use their SVN, we
>  don't use their mailing lists, we don't use their hosting even except for the
>  above...

I don't think use of their release system justifies their logo on our
website, we could stop using it and I doubt it would make any
difference whatsoever.

Ian.

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[freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-03 Thread Loki 
A simple solution to solve the problem with the menu is to define "clear: 
both;" in footer style definition.

div#footer {
clear: both; 
text-align: center; 
}

This setting removes all text floating information set before the footer. This 
force the body element to widen so that the footer can be displayed after the 
menubox. 



Loki

Re: [freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-03 Thread Ian Clarke 
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Matthew Toseland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Not completely. We still use their release system, if only to gain additional
>  publicity (since there are generally a couple of hundred people subscribed to
>  the sourceforge release system for Freenet). OTOH we don't use their SVN, we
>  don't use their mailing lists, we don't use their hosting even except for the
>  above...

I don't think use of their release system justifies their logo on our
website, we could stop using it and I doubt it would make any
difference whatsoever.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-03 Thread Matthew Toseland 
On Friday 02 May 2008 23:06, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Nice, a few bits of feedback:
> 
> I'm not sure about the various images in the menu now (the cup, and
> Hackontext), they look a bit messy with their white backgrounds.
> 
> I think we may have too much line-spacing between the sub-menu items -
> the menu can get *very* long sometimes.
> 
> I'm not sure about the main content wrapping around the menu to the
> left, I understand this makes better use of available space, but it
> seems a bit weird - most websites don't make their content wrap around
> menus.
> 
> Oh, we need to get rid of the sourceforge logo now that (I believe)
> we've completely migrated away from sourceforge's hosting.

Not completely. We still use their release system, if only to gain additional 
publicity (since there are generally a couple of hundred people subscribed to 
the sourceforge release system for Freenet). OTOH we don't use their SVN, we 
don't use their mailing lists, we don't use their hosting even except for the 
above...
> 
> Ian.
> 
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Michael Tänzer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> >  I've done a new layout for our website. It isn't just prettier but also
> >  cleans up the mess which was done when looking at the old layout with a
> >  browser window narrower than 700 pixel.
> >  I tested it in Firefox (2 & 3), Opera, IE, Safari and Konqueror, but all
> >  of them only in the newest version, it's not seriously broken in any of
> >  them. Almost all browsers do have a problem with
> >  http://freenetproject.org/documentation.html though, there the menu is
> >  quite long and there's not much content, which causes the menu to stick
> >  out of the body element (it's just an aesthetical problem, no content is
> >  unreadable or inaccessible because of this). As always the IE is the
> >  exception, it widens the body element so the menu fits in, but it has
> >  other problems: it uses microsofts broken box model therefore the page
> >  doesn't look the same way as in the other browsers (but it's not ugly,
> >  we could do a CSS hack to fix it, but I don't think we need that) and
> >  the picture with the mug (which leads to the freenet shop) isn't centred.
> >
> >  Please test the new design in your favourite browsers and let me know if
> >  there are some problems.
> >
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-03 Thread Loki 
A simple solution to solve the problem with the menu is to define "clear: 
both;" in footer style definition.

div#footer {
clear: both; 
text-align: center; 
}

This setting removes all text floating information set before the footer. This 
force the body element to widen so that the footer can be displayed after the 
menubox. 



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[freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-02 Thread Michael Tänzer 
Hi folks,

I've done a new layout for our website. It isn't just prettier but also
cleans up the mess which was done when looking at the old layout with a
browser window narrower than 700 pixel.
I tested it in Firefox (2 & 3), Opera, IE, Safari and Konqueror, but all
of them only in the newest version, it's not seriously broken in any of
them. Almost all browsers do have a problem with
http://freenetproject.org/documentation.html though, there the menu is
quite long and there's not much content, which causes the menu to stick
out of the body element (it's just an aesthetical problem, no content is
unreadable or inaccessible because of this). As always the IE is the
exception, it widens the body element so the menu fits in, but it has
other problems: it uses microsofts broken box model therefore the page
doesn't look the same way as in the other browsers (but it's not ugly,
we could do a CSS hack to fix it, but I don't think we need that) and
the picture with the mug (which leads to the freenet shop) isn't centred.

Please test the new design in your favourite browsers and let me know if
there are some problems.

Neo at NHNG

-- 
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[freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-02 Thread Ian Clarke 
Nice, a few bits of feedback:

I'm not sure about the various images in the menu now (the cup, and
Hackontext), they look a bit messy with their white backgrounds.

I think we may have too much line-spacing between the sub-menu items -
the menu can get *very* long sometimes.

I'm not sure about the main content wrapping around the menu to the
left, I understand this makes better use of available space, but it
seems a bit weird - most websites don't make their content wrap around
menus.

Oh, we need to get rid of the sourceforge logo now that (I believe)
we've completely migrated away from sourceforge's hosting.

Ian.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Michael T?nzer
 wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>  I've done a new layout for our website. It isn't just prettier but also
>  cleans up the mess which was done when looking at the old layout with a
>  browser window narrower than 700 pixel.
>  I tested it in Firefox (2 & 3), Opera, IE, Safari and Konqueror, but all
>  of them only in the newest version, it's not seriously broken in any of
>  them. Almost all browsers do have a problem with
>  http://freenetproject.org/documentation.html though, there the menu is
>  quite long and there's not much content, which causes the menu to stick
>  out of the body element (it's just an aesthetical problem, no content is
>  unreadable or inaccessible because of this). As always the IE is the
>  exception, it widens the body element so the menu fits in, but it has
>  other problems: it uses microsofts broken box model therefore the page
>  doesn't look the same way as in the other browsers (but it's not ugly,
>  we could do a CSS hack to fix it, but I don't think we need that) and
>  the picture with the mug (which leads to the freenet shop) isn't centred.
>
>  Please test the new design in your favourite browsers and let me know if
>  there are some problems.
>
>  Neo at NHNG
>
>  --
>  Follow the blue rabbit - The Freenet Project - http://freenetproject.org/
>
>
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Re: [freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-02 Thread Ian Clarke 
Nice, a few bits of feedback:

I'm not sure about the various images in the menu now (the cup, and
Hackontext), they look a bit messy with their white backgrounds.

I think we may have too much line-spacing between the sub-menu items -
the menu can get *very* long sometimes.

I'm not sure about the main content wrapping around the menu to the
left, I understand this makes better use of available space, but it
seems a bit weird - most websites don't make their content wrap around
menus.

Oh, we need to get rid of the sourceforge logo now that (I believe)
we've completely migrated away from sourceforge's hosting.

Ian.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Michael Tänzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>  I've done a new layout for our website. It isn't just prettier but also
>  cleans up the mess which was done when looking at the old layout with a
>  browser window narrower than 700 pixel.
>  I tested it in Firefox (2 & 3), Opera, IE, Safari and Konqueror, but all
>  of them only in the newest version, it's not seriously broken in any of
>  them. Almost all browsers do have a problem with
>  http://freenetproject.org/documentation.html though, there the menu is
>  quite long and there's not much content, which causes the menu to stick
>  out of the body element (it's just an aesthetical problem, no content is
>  unreadable or inaccessible because of this). As always the IE is the
>  exception, it widens the body element so the menu fits in, but it has
>  other problems: it uses microsofts broken box model therefore the page
>  doesn't look the same way as in the other browsers (but it's not ugly,
>  we could do a CSS hack to fix it, but I don't think we need that) and
>  the picture with the mug (which leads to the freenet shop) isn't centred.
>
>  Please test the new design in your favourite browsers and let me know if
>  there are some problems.
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  --
>  Follow the blue rabbit - The Freenet Project - http://freenetproject.org/
>
>
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[freenet-dev] New Website Layout

2008-05-02 Thread Michael Tänzer 
Hi folks,

I've done a new layout for our website. It isn't just prettier but also
cleans up the mess which was done when looking at the old layout with a
browser window narrower than 700 pixel.
I tested it in Firefox (2 & 3), Opera, IE, Safari and Konqueror, but all
of them only in the newest version, it's not seriously broken in any of
them. Almost all browsers do have a problem with
http://freenetproject.org/documentation.html though, there the menu is
quite long and there's not much content, which causes the menu to stick
out of the body element (it's just an aesthetical problem, no content is
unreadable or inaccessible because of this). As always the IE is the
exception, it widens the body element so the menu fits in, but it has
other problems: it uses microsofts broken box model therefore the page
doesn't look the same way as in the other browsers (but it's not ugly,
we could do a CSS hack to fix it, but I don't think we need that) and
the picture with the mug (which leads to the freenet shop) isn't centred.

Please test the new design in your favourite browsers and let me know if
there are some problems.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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